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17 put in mad work. lol saw some shit saying 17 was what Gohan was supposed to be lmfao.

lol this nigga Frieza been getting disrespected for the past couple episodes. Nigga just show up outa nowhere like
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Only to get that ass beat and tossed out like trash lol
 
Oh and another thing with 17, how strong has he become? Do yall think 17 is now stronger than a SSJ3? He's obviously way stronger than he was back in the Cell saga. Some people say he's on a SSB level.
 
That's a reach let's not get too excited just b/c he went out like a G. He's strong but he was no match for even regular Toppo and in the end he got killed - and he was the only person to have lost like that. His force field & battle intelligence set him apart from the others. He's stronger than Cell but under SSR Future Trunks I'd say.

Remember they're not allowed to kill so the way they attack & damage they take not gonna be reflected the way it'd be in a regular fight.... We once saw Gohan kill Frieza just by punching him in DBZ and Master Roshi is out here fighting niggas who are as strong as Ginyu Force and successfully eliminating them....

Yea so definitely stronger than a SSJ2
 
That's a reach let's not get too excited just b/c he went out like a G. He's strong but he was no match for even regular Toppo and in the end he got killed - and he was the only person to have lost like that. His force field & battle intelligence set him apart from the others. He's stronger than Cell but under SSR Future Trunks I'd say.

Remember they're not allowed to kill so the way they attack & damage they take not gonna be reflected the way it'd be in a regular fight.... We once saw Gohan kill Frieza just by punching him in DBZ and Master Roshi is out here fighting niggas who are as strong as Ginyu Force and successfully eliminating them....

Iono man.. if he wasn't at least close to SSB strong Jiren woulda obliterated this nigga one time.. he traded blows with Jiren.. holding back or not... he kept back Jirens attacks as much as Goku or Vegeta could... ill say 17 is slightly under they level... at the very least he stronger/smarter than Gohan punkass... give that man his props
 
And he did get obliterated.....

Remember he was completely defenceless against Toppo.
SSB Vegeta is the only person thus far who has successfully injured & even knock Jiren down. UI Goku wasnt even able to do that.

17 could be around Gohan's level but lets not get hype & overrate him now.

17 the only nigga to actually injure Jiren tho.....AND he got in that niggas head too lol
 
17 the only nigga to actually injure Jiren tho.....AND he got in that niggas head too lol

He injured Jiren because he got a completely undefended shot in. Had anyone else managed that, they could have hurt Jiren too. I think people are overrating 17's power. It's not really like he did anything impressive from a power standpoint. What was impressive about him was, of course, the unlimited stamina and his cunning.
 
He injured Jiren because he got a completely undefended shot in. Had anyone else managed that, they could have hurt Jiren too. I think people are overrating 17's power. It's not really like he did anything impressive from a power standpoint. What was impressive about him was, of course, the unlimited stamina and his cunning.

so we just gonna act like if krillin or roshi had a shot like 17 did they woulda did some damage? Or coulda blocked some of Jirens shit like 17 did? NAH son
 
so we just gonna act like if krillin or roshi had a shot like 17 did they woulda did some damage? Or coulda blocked some of Jirens shit like 17 did? NAH son

I think they could have harmed him with the right move had they caught him unguarded. We know in the DB world, people are very vulnerable when they aren't prepared. But you're probably right that neither of them could have defended against Jiren's attacks.
 
17= evil buu

They pretty much honoring him as a legit force from the gt arc

Dude always had the potential to be that great....

I day he's clearly on par with buu just more willing to work with others
 
Everybody is the "only nigga to injure jiren" what the fuck are yall watching
Nigga has gotten touched it just ain't been fazing him
 
The inconsistencies of goku and vegeta keeping up with jiren in hand to hand combat is glaring

Not that inconsistent. No one ever said Jiren was a better fighter than them. He's just stronger, and he's been taking them on at the same time and sandbagging all the while. So that isn't really inconsistent. Now, the fact that he continues to sandbag even knowing his universe is on the line is stupid.
 
Ok this:


Is not the same as this:


Vegeta stunned and injured Jiren, he stopped him right in his tracks. 17 fucking blew up trying to defend an attack from Jiren SMMFH. But somehow niggas saying g he's as strong a SSB -_- ..... Vegeta and Goku have endured worse and lived.

Losing clothe is nothing, attacks can hurt if unguarded look at Trunks in the Cell saga when Cell killed him and beat Vegeta with a mere slap....


Those two instances aren’t equal though because 17’s was after Jiren had fully powered up.

And 17 didn’t blow up “trying defend an attack from Jiren.” He intentionally blew himself up trying to destroy Jirens attack because it was about to eliminate Goku & Vegeta who were on their backs.
 
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