The official COVID-19/Coronavirus Discussion Thread...aka I hope I don't get the Rona
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WHO chief urges halt to booster shots for rest of the year
WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus called on countries, such as the U.S. and the UK, to not offer Covid vaccine booster shots for the rest of the year
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
While this is true, spinning the truth and telling outright lies are two different things. There is still such a thing as journalistic integrity in actual MSM news even though they find ways to straddle that line.
These podcasters and prime time shows are way off from that though and we need to stop putting them in the same plane.
They have told outright lies though. They circulate bad info that either means they suck at their jobs or doing it on purpose.
Literally no other way around those two options.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
Eh, they can make an argument that they are “technically” telling the truth. Or they will say “per xyz person or organization” to cover themselves.
But the prime time opinion shows and podcasters just say things completely false with unreliable or no sources at all.
The morning shows, Sunday shows, network evening news shows, etc. at least have a journalistic standard, as low as people may think that is.
Yes sometimes they can do that. But we aren't talking about that. We are talking about instances where they regurgitated something that turned out to be completely false bc no one fact checked and just ran with a narrative to stuff their base viewers brains with. That isn't journalistic integrity..it's the complete opposite...or lack thereof.
It seems like you're either denying it ever happens at all....or making excuses for it. Can't tell which.
Thing is, at least in rogan's case, he's said multiple times "I'm an idiot what do I know."
The news actually calls themselves news.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
So are the two the same or not? Can you admit there are levels?
The Today Show, Good Morning America, Nightly News with Lester Holt, Meet the Press, etc. are the same as prime time opinion and podcasters?
That’s all I’m saying. And it’s crazy that people even put these people in the same conversation.
It’s the same thing that’s happening with medical experts. People are putting opinions on the same level as expertise.
Podcasters' prevalence is direct result of declining quality of news media and journalism.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
I agree to an extent, but I also think it’s because the public will believe the lie over the truth because the lie is more entertaining. Which is why conspiracy theories gain so much traction on such flimsy premises.
Axios has an article about Moderna wanting to drop their booster dosage from 100 to 50 micrograms which would also be more profitable for them. White house on some:So huh?
Pfizer picked a COVID-19 vaccine dose far lower than Moderna's to minimize side effects, its top scientist says
Pfizer's mRNA dose is far lower than Moderna's. Scientists speculate that this could explain why Moderna's shot produced more antibodies in studies.www.yahoo.com
The humanized mice are grafted with human tissue and cells. If they find a way to infect those cells, they find a way to infect humans. While it's meant to be a way to "safely" research a virus/disease where preventative treatment can be discovered ahead of a potential outbreak, it can also be the cause/origin of an outbreak.
There is an actual published study of this exact type of research happening in the Wuhan lab with bats with ties to NIH funds through ecohealth, but Fauci basically giving mfs the run around saying it doesn't qualify as gain of function (it does if u look up standard definition) bc it's looking like Covid 19 was genetically engineered/modified.
The majority of accusers (scientists, not politicians) don't think the outbreak was intentional, just the cover up.
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A couple years ago I would agree with u. But there are clear examples of shit mainstream called conspiracies that they now have no choice but to report as reasonable and likely.
And the main reason this happened is bc they put politics ahead of journalism.
They are fueling all the bullshit u are referring to.
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TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
And I won’t derail this any further, but that’s another key difference. They will typically correct themselves in the face of new information.
I think people think expert = perfect and that’s just not the case.
This suggests there is accountability in the media. There isn't.
They have no choice once their claims are undeniably unsubstantiated or just outright proven wrong. The pleas are still being copped "trump is racist so we couldnt think straight at the time".
They have to appear to be well intentioned truth seekers or they lose all credibility. The problem is it happens so much that the credibility is shot.
And most stories aren't corrected by the outlets that reported them falsely.
I dont think Rachel Maddow or Joy Reid released a segment saying "sorry for giving u guys misinformation, we don't fact check shit that sounds good to us"
It doesn't only happen on Fox news.
It's almost always another outlet (usually on opposite of political spectrum) who will call them out.
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Royal
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Yeah scientists just testing theories based on experiments and other known data from previous experiments.
To add to that last post I'm referring to shit like Covid origins.
If your post is referring to the science changing, or figuring out we need masks again, or realizing we might need boosters, in that case I agree w your post.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
I consider Maddow, Reid, Cuomo, Lemon, etc. prime time pundits. I don’t consider them news shows and neither should anyone else. And maybe that’s where the disconnect lies with the people and MSM.
I’m more so speaking to the actual news shows like Today, GMA, Meet the Press, Fox News Sunday, etc. Those I think still carry some journalistic integrity,
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
Nah, I was saying in general so your premise was accurate. I think the shows you were thinking of and the ones I was referring to were different though.