DOS_patos
Unverified Legion of Trill member
My posts have been be hesitant and educated.
The official COVID-19/Coronavirus Discussion Thread...aka I hope I don't get the Rona
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The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
I feel you. I don't know about the "having natural immunity" part though. A lot of people with typically good immunity to sickness are getting fucked up by COVID. I'm not necessarily against all people that have chosen not to be vaccinated, but I do think it's problematic when people start promoting being unvaxxed as if it's a good thing.
DOS_patos
Unverified Legion of Trill member
No one said that from what I saw
B_A
I was here
Bruh, I don't take shit offensively at all. Unless someone is intentionally trying to offend me THEN I'm offended at the fact someone is trying to offend me. Why you trying to offend me!?!??!?
Agree. I said myself if natural immunity wanes or not strong enough I would get vaxxed.
@ the bold can u post some data? Cuz the shit that just came out Israel posted a couple pages back said nat immunity is stronger than two vaxx shots.
I know it's still to early to be definitive til more data comes
The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
Check the table in this article
See the Data on Breakthrough Covid Hospitalizations and Deaths by State (Published 2021)
Coronavirus cases that send vaccinated people to the hospital or cause death have been relatively rare, a New York Times analysis of state data shows.
In the U.S. at least, the unvaxxed are far more likely to be hospitalized for the virus and die by it. Of course this doesn't tell you much about your chances of catching it or not catching it vaxxed or unvaxxed, but it certainly shows that if you catch it, your chances for coming out of it without much problem are far better if you're vaxxed.
Aw yea I'm aware that vaccines drop down severe illness and hospitalizations drastically but I thought u were referring to unvaxxed w natural immunity in that quote I bolded.Check the table in this article
See the Data on Breakthrough Covid Hospitalizations and Deaths by State (Published 2021)
Coronavirus cases that send vaccinated people to the hospital or cause death have been relatively rare, a New York Times analysis of state data shows.www.nytimes.com
In the U.S. at least, the unvaxxed are far more likely to be hospitalized for the virus and die by it. Of course this doesn't tell you much about your chances of catching it or not catching it vaxxed or unvaxxed, but it certainly shows that if you catch it, your chances for coming out of it without much problem are far better if you're vaxxed.
Not all of them have been and you know that
The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
I get what you're asking. I guess the point is that hospitals are flooded with patients. If natural immunity was so good, that wouldn't be the case. I'm sure a lot of those people are immunocompromised or old or have other problems, but that's not the case for all those patients. I don't have numbers right now though. That's something worth looking up.
Yea that's all I been saying is show me the numbers. Israel is the most recent so far n looking good for natural immunity.
Also curious how many vaxxed people get breakthrough infections never caught Covid vs those vaxxed who did previously catch Covid.
For y'all that got vaxxed did they ask if u caught Covid before? And did that change how many shots they said u would need?
The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
Yes, you are asked if you've had COVID before. I don't believe that has any effect on the shots you need.
I think I've seen the Israeli report you're talking about, but I didn't read it too deeply. I'll just say that the problem with coming up with the numbers that you're looking for is that people who don't get hit severely by the disease don't really report, so I imagine it's hard to keep track of natural immunity vs vaxxed when a lot of those people never even go in an verify that they even have the disease.
If we're just basing the discussion of natural immunity combined with possible pre existing conditions on the USA then people are more fucked than we realize because this country is so unhealthy its a joke to the rest of the world. Same country that creates shit like the "baconator" and makes a sport out of hot dogs ain't gonna fair too well
The numbers would be about the same if not better than vaxxed immunity
The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
No, I think the point he was making was that in this country we probably have a higher percentage of people that are at risk and immunocompromised because of poor health in general.
This country has way too many people with preexisting conditions. And the sad thing is many aren't even aware of them until something happens.
TheNightKing
J.A.P.A.N.
Edit: Y’all well beyond this post. I should have refreshed first.
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DOS_patos
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