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The official COVID-19/Coronavirus Discussion Thread...aka I hope I don't get the Rona

TheNightKing said:
We just found out in the past week or so that the Delta variant gives vaccinated people enough of a viral load to be just as easily transmissibile. Before the Delta variant, that wasn't the case.

I really don't want to wear a mask, but given what's come out the past couple of days, I wouldn't be against a return to a mandate.

Because people aren't getting vaccinated though, it's only a matter of time before there's a variant current vaccines can't fight. Then we'll be right back in the position we were all of last year. Then new vaccines, then more unvaxxed, then more breakthrough variants, then more vaccines, etc., etc. This shit's going to last forever.
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Exactly I think this gonna be the cycle for a few years. Can’t convince folks to vaccinate white people don’t even wanna wear masks
 
We know vaccines cause viruses to mutate and evolve. It's done it with many of them. We know this. We don't like to talk about it because the scientific community fears it will cause distrust or reluctance in vaccine taking. And they're right. Idk how other countries dropped the ball on handing out vaccines but the fact they let a number of weeks lapse in administration between the two doses it can give rise to a stronger more virulent version...all the viruses that survived dose one and were allowed to proliferate before dose two which would have killed them all off. Tired of unvaccinted or unmasked people getting blamed, it's the incompetence of planning by governments and medical community. But they dont take blame for anything so....
 
B_A said:
We know vaccines cause viruses to mutate and evolve. It's done it with many of them. We know this. We don't like to talk about it because the scientific community fears it will cause distrust or reluctance in vaccine taking. And they're right. Idk how other countries dropped the ball on handing out vaccines but the fact they let a number of weeks lapse in administration between the two doses it can give rise to a stronger more virulent version...all the viruses that survived dose one and were allowed to proliferate before dose two which would have killed them all off. Tired of unvaccinted or unmasked people getting blamed, it's the incompetence of planning by governments and medical community. But they dont take blame for anything so....
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www.nature.com

Rates of SARS-CoV-2 transmission and vaccination impact the fate of vaccine-resistant strains - Scientific Reports

Vaccines are thought to be the best available solution for controlling the ongoing SARS-CoV-2 pandemic. However, the emergence of vaccine-resistant strains may come too rapidly for current vaccine developments to alleviate the health, economic and social consequences of the pandemic. To quantify...
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Lots of praise for super crowded Lollapolooza being 90% vaxxed. I wonder if cases go up will unvaxxed get the blame? Considering this.......

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If US is at its goal of 70% herd immunity, and cities/states follow suit of what NY is doing where only vaxxed people can "go out", if a variant does pop up it's most likely a) vaxxed people b) vaxx inequity across the globe

I'm still waiting to see when there's gonna be more studies on natural immunity vs variants.
 
ChicagoFigure said:
www.nature.com

Rates of SARS-CoV-2 transmission and vaccination impact the fate of vaccine-resistant strains - Scientific Reports

Vaccines are thought to be the best available solution for controlling the ongoing SARS-CoV-2 pandemic. However, the emergence of vaccine-resistant strains may come too rapidly for current vaccine developments to alleviate the health, economic and social consequences of the pandemic. To quantify...
www.nature.com www.nature.com
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Lots of praise for super crowded Lollapolooza being 90% vaxxed. I wonder if cases go up will unvaxxed get the blame? Considering this.......

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If US is at its goal of 70% herd immunity, and cities/states follow suit of what NY is doing where only vaxxed people can "go out", if a variant does pop up it's most likely a) vaxxed people b) vaxx inequity across the globe

I'm still waiting to see when there's gonna be more studies on natural immunity vs variants.
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And since they are vaxed for the first virus they will aquire the stronger delta instead, get moderately sick and pass it onto others. This has also happened in the past.
Edit: gonna be a delta omega version after that outdoors event.
 


The Delta variant of the coronavirus overwhelmingly remains the dominant strain in the United States, but the Lambda variant has started getting attention in recent days.

Like the Delta variant, Lambda is highly infectious and thought to be more resistant to vaccines than the original version of the virus. Though much remains unknown about the strain, there have been some alarming characteristics detected by researchers.

At the moment, the Lambda variant has been mainly spreading through South America after first being identified in Peru in August 2020, but cases have been seen in Texas and South Carolina. Fewer than 700 cases of the Lambda variant have been sequenced in the U.S. out of more than 34 million coronavirus reported cases, according to one estimate. However, the U.S. has only sequenced a small amount of its cases, so the actual number of cases associated with the strain may be much higher

In all, 28 countries have identified Lambda variants in COVID cases, according to GISAID. Scientists say it is closely related to one of the earliest known variants of the virus, known as Alpha.

The World Health Organization (WHO) says Lambda has the potential for increased transmissibility and may have increased resistance to neutralizing antibodies, both characteristics associated with the Delta variant.

Even still, studies show vaccines protect against all the major coronavirus strains, including the Delta variant, and researchers believe this to be the case with Lambda. As of now, though, there hasn't been sufficient data regarding exactly how effective current vaccines are against preventing infection from Lambda

How worried should people be about the Lambda variant? That depends on who you ask. Last month, the WHO classified Lambda as a global "variant of interest," which is considered a level just below a "variant of concern
"Variants of concern" identified by the organization are the Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta.
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