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The official COVID-19/Coronavirus Discussion Thread...aka I hope I don't get the Rona
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Wuhan lab leak theory: Behind the science and origin of Covid
Five virologists said few conclusions can be drawn based on the available scientific evidence, but they noted that the context and circumstances of the debate have changed.www.nbcnews.com
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If u been paying attn like I have (red highlight) this is not new news! The first scientific reports from 2020 calling for lab leak investigation are the same we are finally accepting today. Why are the masses only now willing to accept it and social media no longer banning posts?
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Politicization!
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"Trust the science (only when it matches with your fav politicians)"
This our science and media y'all. The bamboozlement continues.
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I think the last quote is more truthful than it being about playing favorite with politicians. If the lab leak theory was being pushed without being tied to people being racist towards Asians it would've been accepted alot sooner.
Nah I don't think they were playing favs with politicians. I think they were 100% swayed from speaking up due to politicization.
Which means the 'science' is prone to political influence (whether science's intentions were malicious or innocent). Which means it's not 'science'.
Which translates into: "now that trump is gone we changed our minds!"
I blame trump (his intentions werent for the good of the ppl but for himself), I blame lefty media (being too blind to make that distinction), I blame scientists who put "trump is evil" before the science, and I blame all the douche bags who can't listen to different opinions ONLY BC trump or a republican agrees.
Bc there were a decent amount of scientists who didn't give a shit about any of that and pretty much put their credibility on the line, got demonetized on YouTube, or branded as conspiracy theorists for simply not giving a fuck about politics and just getting to the truth.
But who tf am I just a guy on a forum
Nah I don't think they were playing favs with politicians. I think they were 100% swayed from speaking up due to politicization.
Which means the 'science' is prone to political influence (whether science's intentions were malicious or innocent). Which means it's not 'science'.
Which translates into: "now that trump is gone we changed our minds!"
I blame trump (his intentions werent for the good of the ppl but for himself), I blame lefty media (being too blind to make that distinction), I blame scientists who put "trump is evil" before the science, and I blame all the douche bags who can't listen to different opinions ONLY BC trump or a republican agrees.
Bc there were a decent amount of scientists who didn't give a shit about any of that and pretty much put their credibility on the line, got demonetized on YouTube, or branded as conspiracy theorists for simply not giving a fuck about politics and just getting to the truth.
But who tf am I just a guy on a forum
I definitely agree with this pov which is basically what I was trying to say in a condensed way. Had Trump and his followers never made it such a race based claim and instead one based on actual evidence it would've been easier to digest. But when you base ideas of science around racism then yeah it's gonna be hard to get people to attach their name and reputation to that. And it also taints anyone trying to make the same argument devoid of any racist connotations.
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Listened to the Rogan pod about ivermectin
Pretty crazy if all that is true
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Pretty crazy if all that is true
#1671 - Bret Weinstein & Dr. Pierre Kory
Episode · The Joe Rogan Experience · Dr. Pierre Kory is an ICU and lung specialist who is an expert on the use of the drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19. Bret Weinstein is an evolutionary biologist, visiting fellow at Princeton, host of the DarkHorse podcast, and co-author (with his wife, Heather...
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Whoever said bringing up India is disengenuous just know the data is out there that some Indian states used ivermectin and some didn't. The ones who did use it did better than the ones who didn't.
Goa, India for example states it lowered mortality rates and criticized WHO for advising against treating with it
Goa, India for example states it lowered mortality rates and criticized WHO for advising against treating with it
Couple things.....nothing is sudden about them touting this treatment. They've been pushing for it for a year at least.
Second, there are multiple trials, and multiple studies of it in real time use of multiple countries, with data supporting it.
The funny thing is, while Weinstein and flccc (among other unaffiliated doctors) have been talking about this over the past 12 months on YouTube, they've been getting their vids flagged and taken down.
Now that they moved to Spotify, who probably will let the vid fly and p can see the message unfiltered, other media outlets are gonna push harder to scrutinize. Next is bringing back up the old Rogan slander. Which, with merit or not, has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the content.
Y'all sit back and watch the show.
The bamboozlement continues.
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But if you get the vaccine, isn’t the ivermectin not needed?
Or are people saying they’d rather take a different unproven drug over what they claim is an unproven vaccine?
I guess I just don’t understand the end game or point other than “hey somebody is suppressing info.”
Or are people saying they’d rather take a different unproven drug over what they claim is an unproven vaccine?
I guess I just don’t understand the end game or point other than “hey somebody is suppressing info.”
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What they were sayin in the pod was that if ivermectin was applied globally (which it can cuz its a cheap generic drug) they believe it can eliminate Covid totally.
But instead they pushing the vaccine and just handed out 3+billion dollars to research for a drug that would do basically what Ivermectin already do.
At least thats what i got out of it.
It's crazy bc (no offense to u) u actually have this backwards
Ivermectin has been in use for 30+ yrs and is proven and safe
The vaccines ARE NOT.
So it's actually "if ivermectin (proven, safe and cheap) DOES WORK, then vaccines (unproven, no long term data on safety, billions on the line for manufacturers) are not needed"
Also, ivermectin is strongest when used to prevent Covid. The later in stages u are the harder it is to treat.
Remember how CDC/hospitals said stay indoors, dont get any sun and only come to us when you're desperately sick?
Add to that, if ivermectin works to prevent Covid like these doctors say, there wouldn't be need for vaccines. Which again aren't FDA approved, and are only able to be used under Emergency Use Authorization. Which specifically states on FDA.gov website a vaccine can only be emergency authorized if no other treatments are available (ivermectin?
)Ivermectin is cheap, can be made generically and no current patents on it.
Vaccines are patented and billion dollar industry
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Go back in the pages btw, I listed sources and articles answering the same questions y'all repeatedly asking
The end game is profit.
I feel like Im alone on this but to me this is the biggest pull the wool over your eyes story of my lifetime lol
It literally affects everyone on earth and most ppl don't gaf or defensive in favor of a billion dollar industry who puts profits over lives
C'mon yall
It literally affects everyone on earth and most ppl don't gaf or defensive in favor of a billion dollar industry who puts profits over lives
C'mon yall
Naw that post wasn't toward u lol.