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Yo I just realised that I put a £1.50 double on City and Arsenal to draw which I forgot about and got nearly £41 back haha buzzing!!!

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He's done nothing but improve us and lest we forget, we only lost 2 games all season so far. I know it's banter but ijs.

Improved you say....hmmm, let's talk basic facts then:

Q1. When was the last time Liverpool mounted a serious title challenge?
A1. Under Klopp's predecessor, Brendan Rodgers in 13/14 season - finished 2nd and 2 points off champion's position.

Klopp's record: 15/16 season - finished 8th and 21 points off champion's position, 16/17 season - finished 4th and 17 points off champion's position

Q2. When was the last time Liverpool won a trophy?
A2. Under Kenny Dalglish in 2012 - league cup.

Klopp's record: 15/16 season - league cup final runner ups and Europa cup final runner ups

Q3. Overall win percentage?
This is where Klopp has a current slight edge (significantly due to this current 16 match unbeaten run Liverpool are currently on)

Klopp's record: Played 130, win percentage: 51.5%
Rodger's record: Played 167, win percentage: 50.3%
Dalglish's record: Played 74, win percentage: 47.3%

Q4. Klopp vs Klopp premier league stats after 22 games

16/17: Won 13, Points 45, Position 4th
17/18: Won 12, Points 44, Position 4th

VVD might take you to the next level but that remains to be seen at the end of the sesaon.
Till then the only tangible case you can make for improvement is in football style i.e. Liverpool plays more expansive and attacking football than before (you've only scored 1 more prem but everything else.......nah
 
Improved you say....hmmm, let's talk basic facts then:

Q1. When was the last time Liverpool mounted a serious title challenge?
A1. Under Klopp's predecessor, Brendan Rodgers in 13/14 season - finished 2nd and 2 points off champion's position.

Klopp's record: 15/16 season - finished 8th and 21 points off champion's position, 16/17 season - finished 4th and 17 points off champion's position

Q2. When was the last time Liverpool won a trophy?
A2. Under Kenny Dalglish in 2012 - league cup.

Klopp's record: 15/16 season - league cup final runner ups and Europa cup final runner ups

Q3. Overall win percentage?
This is where Klopp has a current slight edge (significantly due to this current 16 match unbeaten run Liverpool are currently on)

Klopp's record: Played 130, win percentage: 51.5%
Rodger's record: Played 167, win percentage: 50.3%
Dalglish's record: Played 74, win percentage: 47.3%

Q4. Klopp vs Klopp premier league stats after 22 games

16/17: Won 13, Points 45, Position 4th
17/18: Won 12, Points 44, Position 4th

VVD might take you to the next level but that remains to be seen at the end of the sesaon.
Till then the only tangible case you can make for improvement is in football style i.e. Liverpool plays more expansive and attacking football than before (you've only scored 1 more prem but everything else.......nah

Don't tell me anything about seriously mounting a title challenge. None of us are challenging for the league this season due to City being a monster. And that unforgettable 13/14 season was due in most part of Suarez being the best striker in the world, you saw how bad we were once he left.


15/16 Klopp came in when the season was well underway, he was just sailing us to the season's end before any real work can get done. Despite that, he had us in a few finals.

Take a look at Klopps signings also, he's done far better than his predecessor.
Players actually want to play for him and for one he has us in the knockout stages of the Champions League for the first time since 2009. Progress.
To actually call him a flopp when his reign isn't anywhere near to being done and is making progress is utter nonsense. You'll look like the same idiots who said Fraudiolla last season.
 
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