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You don't have to be complex to make points

No one is saying that.

Some of us like his style. Others don't. Because that's always been his style. That was the motivation for him making Dumb it Down.

But yall teeter between "he's not that deep. His bars are simple." To "he's got bars, but he tries to hard." To "he aint making no bangers. Where's his song like *blank*."

And you use one of those to fit the narrative. Just say you don't like Lupe. And when somone points you in a direction to call out your hypocrisy, admit the bias.
 
No one is saying that.

Some of us like his style. Others don't. Because that's always been his style. That was the motivation for him making Dumb it Down.

But yall teeter between "he's not that deep. His bars are simple." To "he's got bars, but he tries to hard." To "he aint making no bangers. Where's his song like *blank*."

And you use one of those to fit the narrative. Just say you don't like Lupe. And when somone points you in a direction to call out your hypocrisy, admit the bias.
Nah bruh, I'm saying I like Lupe

Lupe is smart, Lupe has songs and lyrics that have depth. And meaning, Like bitch Bad shoulda stayed on the radio.

But...dude does try to appease u not u..but u niggaz that be on that let's analyze this rick and morty episode type shit.

He's written purposefully to get that response, and you can tell. He takes subject matter easily broken down and wraps them (bars) into overly complex shit for his core fans to find and think over hype

That's just facts b...it's entertainment I get it

I like 50 cent, he purposefully raps like he's the most gangsta nigga to ever gangsta..but even he has fear, but his die hard fans believe he's the hardest out, same thing different spectrum

U gotta see it
 
Alot of his shit is pretentious lol


Like that baby cover shit in the magi video, that's so simple lol

THat's like me saying

Not read like a book
or red like an apple
but red like foxx

super simple pretentious bars


Jay's money phone bar is a real bar, for the avg listener the point is still clear.

but for the bar lovers, it's multi layered


Y'all on the 'gram holdin' money to your ear
There's a disconnect, we don't call that money over here

Gram/graham, disconnect, here/hear, call that, etc,

That's a real bar.
 
With a real message, this nigga lupe talkin about drake and wayne baby covers smh
 
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Nah bruh, I'm saying I like Lupe

Lupe is smart, Lupe has songs and lyrics that have depth. And meaning, Like bitch Bad shoulda stayed on the radio.

But...dude does try to appease u not u..but u niggaz that be on that let's analyze this rick and morty episode type shit.

He's written purposefully to get that response, and you can tell. He takes subject matter easily broken down and wraps them (bars) into overly complex shit for his core fans to find and think over hype

That's just facts b...it's entertainment I get it

I like 50 cent, he purposefully raps like he's the most gangsta nigga to ever gangsta..but even he has fear, but his die hard fans believe he's the hardest out, same thing different spectrum

U gotta see it

I see it. But I wouldn't call it "trying too hard." He's been doing it for years. If anything I feel like the Lupe we have seen in the last 5 years is who he has always wanted to be. But a style was being forced on him. People always say he has the potential and the like food & Liquor and The Cool the best. Well, I feel like that was a watered down Lupe.
 
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I see it. But I wouldn't call it "trying too hard." He's been doing it for years. If anything I feel like the Lupe we have seen in the last 5 years is who he has always wanted to be. But a style was being forced on him. People always say he has the potential and the like food & Liquor and The Cool the best. Well, I feel like that was a watered down Lupe.

I don't believe he's trying to hard, I believe he is purposely giving his core fan what they want. As opposed to when he started, just spitting what he's living. But I believe writing the complexity comes natural to him because he's so smart.
 
Alot of his shit is pretentious lol


Like that baby cover shit in the magi video, that's so simple lol

THat's like me saying

Not read like a book
or red like an apple
but red like foxx

super simple pretentious bars


Jay's money phone bar is a real bar, for the avg listener the point is still clear.

but for the bar lovers, it's multi layered


Y'all on the 'gram holdin' money to your ear
There's a disconnect, we don't call that money over here

Gram/graham, disconnect, here/hear, call that, etc,

That's a real bar.

But what about the while concept if the song being an allegorical reference to the bible?

But focus on the baby pictures.
 
But what about the while concept if the song being an allegorical reference to the bible?

But focus on the baby pictures.


I do think he has good concepts, but executes them poorly some of the times. Like I said, it's still about the music, so even if it's a concept record, like the one where he's using classic movie scenes to tell a story, it was just a boring song to me. Compared to this, which is still a dope song, whether u fully get the bars/concept or not

 
U can't flip y'all on the gram to meaning weight when there absolutely no context for it to be used that way there

The only part that's bars is phone and disconnect and that's kinda lightweight


Graham, the creator of the phone, keep up fam lol
 
This shit funny..

I remember when I first heard kick push, i thought the flipped concept was dope....

I thought it was cool on the song the cool as well....

But he's like the knight l shaymeallemoonon of rap....

Everything ain't gotta be a flip...just rap regular sometimes my nigga....

Like the game would be doper if he could go one song without name dropping like.half the industry

Shit be stupid...
 
Ain't got gone lie tho...those shots at 50 was bars


Who y'all Eifen wit..then goes on to say his homey smaller in stature in the game and got more money than u, and his Otha homie had less time to get the money and got more money than u

That went ova mad heads
 
Jay is a battle rap fan, so is Lupe who he said on multiple occasions that they're the best rappers in the world. U can't even go 4 bars without saying some fire, without gettin boo'd off the stage. Meth is another nigga is goes to alot of Smack events, so if u listen to the new Wu, he really focused on the bars. He always been crazy with the flow, but the bars, were meannnn..


He starts going in around the 8th bar

 
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