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The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: Joe Biden is the 46th President of the United States

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“Proximity to Obama”

and most importantly “Beating Trump”


If that’s not why Biden won - please let me know what was.

Especially - given that the only reason that Biden won the Primary is because the entire country has been fed the propaganda that “Biden is BY FAR the most electable candidate”

This was your statement. And like I said, not even you believe this. Don't let your feelings get in the way of being honest.
 
Everyone is deflecting if they say you're salty about Biden and dont agree with you right ? LOLOLOLLLOLOLOL

No. Y’all are deflecting because ... you are deflecting.

Notice how you keep bringing up Bernie, when I don’t even care about Bernie as a person. He is a vehicle for change.

Elizabeth Warren would have been a 10X Better candidate than Joe Biden.

I disagree with Mayor Pete on almost everything, but he doesn’t have nearly as many weaknesses as Biden does. His platform is better and he would have been FAR LESS vulnerable.


Yall have been deflecting for weeks any time I bring up a legitimate concern for your preferred candidate.

For example - care to discuss how Biden is losing to Trump in the battleground states of AZ, FL, MI, NC, PA, and WI ...


Or does discussing that mean that you are “crying about Bernie Sanders” ?
 
If I had to put it on a scale I'd say

Proximity to Obama - 95%

beating Trump - 5%

In terms of black people making their choice for Biden.

That’s black people. The Democratic Party as a whole Voted for Biden because they thought he could beat Trump.
 
That’s black people. The Democratic Party as a whole Voted for Biden because they thought he could beat Trump.

I know and IMO they're going to be sadly mistaken come election time.

My stance hasn't changed though fuck both democrats and republicans

I've been registered as an independent since I was 18.
 
This was your statement. And like I said, not even you believe this. Don't let your feelings get in the way of being honest.

And I stand by my statement. If Biden was liked only because of Proximity to Obama AND people DID NOT believe he could beat Trump - he would have been smoked in the primary.

In fact, he WAS getting smoked in the primary until that perception shifted.

You still haven’t answered the question. Don’t hide behind criticism of me.

If it wasn’t because of fear of Trump, Why did Biden win?
 
And I stand by my statement. If Biden was liked only because of Proximity to Obama AND people DID NOT believe he could beat Trump - he would have been smoked in the primary.

In fact, he WAS getting smoked in the primary until that perception shifted.

You still haven’t answered the question. Don’t hide behind criticism of me.

If it wasn’t because of fear of Trump, Why did Biden win?

You notice how you've framed your statement differently every post since your initial statement? Why aren't you making the same statement verbatim? We both know why but your feelings obviously trump your integrity. It is what it is.

Let the tears flow, young one.
 
You notice how you've framed your statement differently every post since your initial statement? Why aren't you making the same statement verbatim? We both know why but your feelings obviously trump your integrity. It is what it is.

Let the tears flow, young one.

Hilarious. More ad hominem attacks and deflection.

But for those keeping tabs - I am the one being “emotional”.

Im still waiting on you to answer the question.

You want me to quote myself verbatim? ... Ok.

“Especially - given that the only reason that Biden won the Primary is because the entire country has been fed the propaganda that “Biden is BY FAR the most electable candidate”

This is a FACT. There is a mountain of evidence bearing this out. The MSM has been showering Biden with positive press touting his “electability” with no evidence.

Are you seriously denying this?
 
Hilarious. More ad hominem attacks and deflection.

But for those keeping tabs - I am the one being “emotional”.

Im still waiting on you to answer the question.

You want me to quote myself verbatim? ... Ok.

“Especially - given that the only reason that Biden won the Primary is because the entire country has been fed the propaganda that “Biden is BY FAR the most electable candidate”

This is a FACT. There is a mountain of evidence bearing this out. The MSM has been showering Biden with positive press touting his “electability” with no evidence.

Are you seriously denying this?

So you're really standing behind the statement that, "the only reason that Biden won the Primary is because the entire country has been fed the propaganda that “Biden is BY FAR the most electable candidate”? You truly believe this? There was no other reason Biden demolished the candidate you believe could beat Trump(make that make sense)? Not one?
 
Biden won because Bernie young supporters did not show up, Biden campaign was financially broke in January and February, Biden started catching traction when the other Democrats dropped out.

Not according to @Peace_79 . According to him, there is a singular reason Biden won.
 
So you're really standing behind the statement that, "the only reason that Biden won the Primary is because the entire country has been fed the propaganda that “Biden is BY FAR the most electable candidate”? You truly believe this? There was no other reason Biden demolished the candidate you believe could beat Trump(make that make sense)? Not one?

Of course there are multiple reasons anything happens.

For example Biden also massively benefited from Obama and the rest of the establishment coalescing behind him on Super Tuesday.

And as I already stated he benefited because of proximity to Obama, and name recognition.

But yes, for the fourth time - if the Main Stream media (of which the Democratic Party has a 70+ % Approval Rating) had not given Biden enormous amounts of positive press and thoroughly convinced millions that he was “the most electable“ candidate, he would NOT be the nominee.

Without that he doesn’t win. Full Stop.

You could almost say - it’s the REASON he won.
 
Biden won because Bernie young supporters did not show up, Biden campaign was financially broke in January and February, Biden started catching traction when the other Democrats dropped out.

Was this a contributing factor - yes.

It is related to a fact that Bernie ran an overall poor campaign.

But compared to the “electability” influence from the Main Stream Media in the context of an electorate that is deathly afraid of Donald Trump - it is a very small factor

10% of the Democratic electorate is made up of the youth vote.

~ 72% is over 45 yrs old.

That’s where Sanders lost the primary. Not turning out more people of a 10% pool of voters. That would have mattered much more in a full general election where swing states have tighter margins of victory.
 
You are so mad about Bernie, I would bet money that you would rather Trump win just to spite everyone you think "wronged him". Bruh these white men are not your saviors or jehovah and believe you me, Sanders would have let you down.

Only you can save yourself, not your government.

He'll never admit to the bold but it's clear that this is true.
 
So you admit that you didn't really believe the statement that I said you didn't really believe? You could have just admitted that from the jump. But them feelings....

So you are trying to win a game of semantics?

If out of 10 reasons - one reason is over 70% of the cause of an outcome.

A reasonable person would say

“Wow. Without X, that outcome wouldn’t have happened.”

@Mister would than criticize that reasonable person for not being specific enough.

It’s like when I tell my son I’m “going to the store.”

If I don’t mention that I first went to check the mailbox and get gas on the way there - a person who is aiming to win an ultimate game of semantics would scream

“How inaccurate!” and “untruthful” I was being.

Ok champ ... congratulations. I guess
 
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