COMMUNITY Supreme Court strikes down abortion

Mr BFK said:
men have no business having strong opinions about abortion either way 😒
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While I want to agree with this... if your condom broke and she still wants it then you're screwed for 18 years

Men going in raw and not wanting to support the baby when she gets pregnant is a different story
 
Mr BFK said:
men have no business having strong opinions about abortion either way 😒
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The baby has a father, and most people can agree that there is a point while inside the womb, that it is a living person. Why would you need to be a woman to have an opinion on taking a life? Or why do you need to be a woman to stand up for women's rights?
 
RandomOne said:
While I want to agree with this... if your condom broke and she still wants it then you're screwed for 18 years

Men going in raw and not wanting to support the baby when she gets pregnant is a different story
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don't fuck with a woman u ain't willing to co-parent with 🙁

mofos need to understand they shouldn't be able to tell another person what to do with their body



taking the time to know someone before being so quick to have sex with somebody eliminates a lot of drama

but people so pressed and act like they are missing out instead of just being responsible and waiting
 
Bow to Royalty said:
The baby has a father, and most people can agree that there is a point while inside the womb, that it is a living person. Why would you need to be a woman to have an opinion on taking a life? Or why do you need to be a woman to stand up for women's rights?
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cuz as a man u will never understand the burden of being pregnant

as a man how is it proper to decide what a woman should decide to do with her own body


flip it around......u cool with a woman being able to tell u what u should do with ur body just cuz ya'll fucked 1 time?



as a father u got no real rights until the baby is actually born

until then u look goofy trying to split hairs over whether a miscarriage or an abortion is acceptable

that's why men look crazy having strong feelings over the topic of abortion IMO
 
Mr BFK said:
don't fuck with a woman u ain't willing to co-parent with 🙁

mofos need to understand they shouldn't be able to tell another person what to do with their body



taking the time to know someone before being so quick to have sex with somebody eliminates a lot of drama

but people so pressed and act like they are missing out instead of just being responsible and waiting
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Take the cape off. If your stance is "don't fuck with with someone you're not willing to co-parent with" then hold women to that same standard and say they shouldn't get abortions for non-medical reasons.

Mr BFK said:
cuz as a man u will never understand the burden of being pregnant

as a man how is it proper to decide what a woman should decide to do with her own body


flip it around......u cool with a woman being able to tell u what u should do with ur body just cuz ya'll fucked 1 time?



as a father u got no real rights until the baby is actually born

until then u look goofy trying to split hairs over whether a miscarriage or an abortion is acceptable

that's why men look crazy having strong feelings over the topic of abortion IMO
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See the above comment. You're telling men if they can't deal with the potential consequences of sex, then don't do it. Then giving women a pass for not being able to deal with the potential consequence of sex.

Who's splitting hairs and miscarriages and abortions? I'm not sure what you're talking about there
 
Bow to Royalty said:
Take the cape off. If your stance is "don't fuck with with someone you're not willing to co-parent with" then hold women to that same standard and say they shouldn't get abortions for non-medical reasons.



See the above comment. You're telling men if they can't deal with the potential consequences of sex, then don't do it. Then giving women a pass for not being able to deal with the potential consequence of sex.

Who's splitting hairs and miscarriages and abortions? I'm not sure what you're talking about there
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bruh I do hold women to the same standard as men when it comes to choosing who to have sex with

I just don't believe the govt should have say so for women to do what they want with their own body


u splitting hairs about abortions/miscarriages cuz they both result in the same consequence = an unborn child

who are u to morally legislate when an abortion is proper vs a miscarriage "naturally" happening


u not even considering the slippery slope u are advocating for

that's why I say dudes look stupid being passionate about a topic they will never have direct experience with.......having a living being growing inside of u is something u will never experience period

at some point u need to be humble and understand u will never have the true 1st hand experience of the situation

trying to tell a woman it's illegal for her to determine what goes in her body doesn't have a clean cutoff

what if she drinks during pregnancy? what about fast food? what about not getting enough sleep? what about working too hard?

u must think it's proper for another authority to dictate every aspect of a woman's freedom just cuz she is pregnant 🙁
 
Mr BFK said:
bruh I do hold women to the same standard as men when it comes to choosing who to have sex with

I just don't believe the govt should have say so for women to do what they want with their own body


u splitting hairs about abortions/miscarriages cuz they both result in the same consequence = an unborn child

who are u to morally legislate when an abortion is proper vs a miscarriage "naturally" happening


u not even considering the slippery slope u are advocating for

that's why I say dudes look stupid being passionate about a topic they will never have direct experience with.......having a living being growing inside of u is something u will never experience period

at some point u need to be humble and understand u will never have the true 1st hand experience of the situation

trying to tell a woman it's illegal for her to determine what goes in her body doesn't have a clean cutoff

what if she drinks during pregnancy? what about fast food? what about not getting enough sleep? what about working too hard?

u must think it's proper for another authority to dictate every aspect of a woman's freedom just cuz she is pregnant 🙁
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If you held them to the same standard you'd be against them getting an abortion because you're not giving men a pass to not deal with and of the consequences of sex.

What you're saying is what makes the dilemma. You don't see the baby as a person until birth. So you only see it as them doing something with their own body. Others see it as a person (with disagreement on when they start to see it that way, but still before birth).

Do you think women that can't get pregnant should have an opinion on abortion?

Are you saying there's no moral difference between an abortion and a miscarriage naturally happening because they both result in death?
 
Bow to Royalty said:
If you held them to the same standard you'd be against them getting an abortion because you're not giving men a pass to not deal with and of the consequences of sex.

What you're saying is what makes the dilemma. You don't see the baby as a person until birth. So you only see it as them doing something with their own body. Others see it as a person (with disagreement on when they start to see it that way, but still before birth).

Do you think women that can't get pregnant should have an opinion on abortion?

Are you saying there's no moral difference between an abortion and a miscarriage naturally happening because they both result in death?
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I am holding them to the same standard of biology

men and women are not the same 🙁

if the situation was flipped between genders I would feel the exact same way

it'd be a different story if men didn't understand the dynamic in advance before having sex......stop casually fucking with broads that u don't see as trustworthy and/or potential mother potential




I don't see the baby as a person before birth because they do not have their own agency without the woman carrying it to birth

if I can't force a woman to eat a certain way, or sleep a certain way, or do anything prenatal care-wise.........then I look just as hypocritical and silly trying to control her abortion rights

she has the option to take care of herself the way she chooses...........hence no difference between a miscarriage and an abortion to me




and the same logic could apply to women who can't get pregnant..........no different than an old mofo about to die having the opinions of who should go to fight a war
 
AP4.0 said:
Man... Knowing a lot of dudes... They not gonna that shit as prescribed and still end up getting women pregnant
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  • YCT-529 (Non-Hormonal Pill): A "pill for men" that works by targeting a vitamin A metabolite necessary for sperm production, aiming to stop sperm generation temporarily without affecting hormones.
  • NES/T (Nestorone/Testosterone) Gel (Hormonal Gel): A daily gel applied to the shoulders that combines testosterone and nestorone (a progestin) to suppress sperm production while maintaining normal hormone levels, recently showing high efficacy (86%) in trials.
  • Vasalgel & ADAM (Long-acting Reversible Vasectomy): A non-hormonal, reversible alternative to a vasectomy where a polymer or hydrogel is injected into the vas deferens to act as a barrier, blocking sperm transport.
  • RISUG (Reversible Inhibition of Sperm Under Guidance): A similar, long-lasting, reversible injection into the vas deferens that inactivates sperm, currently in development.
  • Plan A™ (Hydrogel Implants): An injectable hydrogel designed to be a "long-lasting, reversible" contraceptive, currently undergoing clinical trials


"injection" sounds scary lol just saying
 
RandomOne said:
Key Emerging Male Contraceptives:
  • YCT-529 (Non-Hormonal Pill): A "pill for men" that works by targeting a vitamin A metabolite necessary for sperm production, aiming to stop sperm generation temporarily without affecting hormones.
  • NES/T (Nestorone/Testosterone) Gel (Hormonal Gel): A daily gel applied to the shoulders that combines testosterone and nestorone (a progestin) to suppress sperm production while maintaining normal hormone levels, recently showing high efficacy (86%) in trials.
  • Vasalgel & ADAM (Long-acting Reversible Vasectomy): A non-hormonal, reversible alternative to a vasectomy where a polymer or hydrogel is injected into the vas deferens to act as a barrier, blocking sperm transport.
  • RISUG (Reversible Inhibition of Sperm Under Guidance): A similar, long-lasting, reversible injection into the vas deferens that inactivates sperm, currently in development.
  • Plan A™ (Hydrogel Implants): An injectable hydrogel designed to be a "long-lasting, reversible" contraceptive, currently undergoing clinical trials


"injection" sounds scary lol just saying
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Dawg

None of this shit sounds appealing
 
Mr BFK said:
I am holding them to the same standard of biology

men and women are not the same 🙁

if the situation was flipped between genders I would feel the exact same way

it'd be a different story if men didn't understand the dynamic in advance before having sex......stop casually fucking with broads that u don't see as trustworthy and/or potential mother potential




I don't see the baby as a person before birth because they do not have their own agency without the woman carrying it to birth

if I can't force a woman to eat a certain way, or sleep a certain way, or do anything prenatal care-wise.........then I look just as hypocritical and silly trying to control her abortion rights

she has the option to take care of herself the way she chooses...........hence no difference between a miscarriage and an abortion to me




and the same logic could apply to women who can't get pregnant..........no different than an old mofo about to die having the opinions of who should go to fight a war
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The same way men understand the dynamic before having sex, women understand the laws in their state regarding abortion before having sex. So if it's a 6 week cutoff and you didn't make it, that's on them. They knew the deal.

There's a point during pregnancy that the baby can survive outside the mother. So the woman is still pregnant (I forget when, but it's 20-something weeks). A human life that can survive outside the mother's womb isn't a person?

Setting boundaries without taking total control isn't hypocritical. We all know people that make unhealthy and harmful choices (diet, drugs, alcohol, lifestyle, etc), but we let them do what they want. Well, we wouldn't be hypocrites if we tried to stop them from blowing their brains out one day.

A naturally occurring miscarriage and an an abortion aren't the same thing just because they have the same outcome. Just like someone dying their sleep and someone being murdered aren't the same thing just because they have the same outcome.
 
Bow to Royalty said:
The same way men understand the dynamic before having sex, women understand the laws in their state regarding abortion before having sex. So if it's a 6 week cutoff and you didn't make it, that's on them. They knew the deal.

There's a point during pregnancy that the baby can survive outside the mother. So the woman is still pregnant (I forget when, but it's 20-something weeks). A human life that can survive outside the mother's womb isn't a person?

Setting boundaries without taking total control isn't hypocritical. We all know people that make unhealthy and harmful choices (diet, drugs, alcohol, lifestyle, etc), but we let them do what they want. Well, we wouldn't be hypocrites if we tried to stop them from blowing their brains out one day.

A naturally occurring miscarriage and an an abortion aren't the same thing just because they have the same outcome. Just like someone dying their sleep and someone being murdered aren't the same thing just because they have the same outcome.
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The bold makes no sense if most women don't even know they're pregnant at the point where an abortion would still be legal.
 
BlackRain said:
The bold makes no sense if most women don't even know they're pregnant at the point where an abortion would still be legal.
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I agree, but you're missing the point. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying we all know the rules. He's saying men go in knowing the risk involved, so don't complain about the outcome. I'm saying women do too.

My point was if that's the standard, then we gotta keep the same energy for women. They know they can get pregnant, and they know the tight deadline, so if they end up pregnant and are too late to get an abortion hit them with the same "Too bad, you knew the deal" you hit men with.
 
Bow to Royalty said:
I agree, but you're missing the point. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying we all know the rules. He's saying men go in knowing the risk involved, so don't complain about the outcome. I'm saying women do too.

My point was if that's the standard, then we gotta keep the same energy for women. They know they can get pregnant, and they know the tight deadline, so if they end up pregnant and are too late to get an abortion hit them with the same "Too bad, you knew the deal" you hit men with.
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Nah I see your point. That part just doesn't make sense to include when you admit that very key part of the entire pov makes no sense. It's designed to inherently put both women and men at a disadvantage when making a final decision. You can't hit somebody with a "you missed the deadline" when said deadline is inherently flawed and made to make people miss it.
 
Bow to Royalty said:
The same way men understand the dynamic before having sex, women understand the laws in their state regarding abortion before having sex. So if it's a 6 week cutoff and you didn't make it, that's on them. They knew the deal.

There's a point during pregnancy that the baby can survive outside the mother. So the woman is still pregnant (I forget when, but it's 20-something weeks). A human life that can survive outside the mother's womb isn't a person?

Setting boundaries without taking total control isn't hypocritical. We all know people that make unhealthy and harmful choices (diet, drugs, alcohol, lifestyle, etc), but we let them do what they want. Well, we wouldn't be hypocrites if we tried to stop them from blowing their brains out one day.

A naturally occurring miscarriage and an an abortion aren't the same thing just because they have the same outcome. Just like someone dying their sleep and someone being murdered aren't the same thing just because they have the same outcome.
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that's the point......the laws are man-made and arbitrarily made up........I got an issue with a govt dictating what an individual should be allowed to do with their own body

cuz once u set boundaries and try to enforce them by law no one is ever really going to agree on what's fair.......and I don't trust a govt agent to make that call

even mofos who are suicidal can't really be stopped no matter what laws u try to come up with



the dying in ur sleep vs murder analogy isn't really the same......a woman can do everything she can to try to keep a baby and still lose it

so how arrogant and judgmental do u have to be as a man to sit back and try to judge an abortion when the woman should have control over her own body



I don't believe in child support being mandated on men either

so I don't think we should be using the law to try to take away someone else's ability to make personal decisions for themselves



should the potential father also be held accountable if the woman chooses to get an abortion?
 
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