Stimulus Checks On The Way?

LurkerSix said:
Sorry, when i saw dudes face and it was an automotive question, cant bring myself to click. Dude has some real horrible takes on auto stuff. I saw a video of him saying getting a new car is dumb, the smart thing to do is buy an american car made in the 90's, cuz according to him they last forever, because they're made really well and need no maintenance. Thats so wrong i question his "advice" on anything.

But to get back on topic, i swear some of these "callers" on these type of shows are fake saying nonsense to get views. When i had cable, sometimes id stop on them for a sec to watch. It would be him or Suze Orman. I've heard dumb questions on their show from both ends of the spectrum.

I heard a millionaire (had like a mill in savings and over a mill in retirement with like no debt) ask if they can afford to "splurge" on a like $1,500 ring. And i've also heard a housewife whos fam has debt and is doing meh, ask if she should spend almost like 6 figures for her to go back to school to get her masters, cuz she just feels like it, but doesnt plan on using it.

You wannt believe its real cuz a lot of americans are stupid af, but at the same time you're just like, "they cant be this stupid".
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Depends on the car from the 90s. There are hondas that are still working with over 300k miles on them

Ford - found on road dead

When I was living in NC I would see those new challengers and chargers dead on the side of the road all the time
 
deadeye said:
He's not lying about any of this.


Any car is going to need maintenance every once in a while............but it's better than having a car note.
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You dont know anything about cars if you think peak engineering was an american car in the 90s.

And a lot of times, constantly paying for a car to be fixed can work out to the same or way more than just a lease on a cheap car
 
AP4.0 said:
Dawg

I don't even look at the pump no more

This isn't a flex but I am completely helpless to this shit

I have to go to work, etc ..
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I check gasbuddy to see which one has the cheapest in my area and just always go to that. Also walmart+ gives 10c off gas at a walmart, murphy, exxon, mobil, and member price at sams

Exxon is usually expensive so I don't use that one often. Murphy and walmart gas tends to be the cheapest
 
LurkerSix said:
You dont know anything about cars if you think peak engineering was an american car in the 90s.

And a lot of times, constantly paying for a car to be fixed can work out to the same or way more than just a lease on a cheap car
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First: There's no such a thing as a "cheap car" anymore.


And, yes, American engineering peaked in the 90's/early 00's because everything after that point was engineered to fail in order to keep dealer service centers and parts manufacturers in business.

The GM 3800 is legendary for its reliability. They stopped producing the engine in 2008 and replaced it with the 3.6L LY7, which is known to fail spectacularly due to timing chain stretch and engine wear thanks to its tendency to burn oil like crazy, and the 3.9L LZ4 which overheats and blows gaskets like a 27th St hooker, leaks oil, and has a myriad of other fail points.

A lot of Ford's older engines were fairly sturdy and could last forever with very few issues, particularly their inline 6's and the 1.9L/2.0L 4 cylinder. But even the old 3.8 and 3.0L V6's would still be running if the cars with them in it hadn't been traded in for Cash For Clunkers. Today's Ford engines fail if you look at them the wrong way.

Chrysler always had issues, but even they had a few gems like their turbo 4's from the 80's and even their 3.8L V6 found in minivans in the 90's.
 
ABW need to come out with a gas card. So we can build up our reward points and get gallons of gas for free
 
Whoever is your local Kroger affiliate is, sign up for their rewards card and shop there. They can be used at any Kroger affiliate across the country and you rack up gas points with each purchase.

I've been using our old phone number from Fry's in Phoenix here in Michigan at Kroger and back in NV at Smith's.
 
konceptjones said:
First: There's no such a thing as a "cheap car" anymore.


And, yes, American engineering peaked in the 90's/early 00's because everything after that point was engineered to fail in order to keep dealer service centers and parts manufacturers in business.

The GM 3800 is legendary for its reliability. They stopped producing the engine in 2008 and replaced it with the 3.6L LY7, which is known to fail spectacularly due to timing chain stretch and engine wear thanks to its tendency to burn oil like crazy, and the 3.9L LZ4 which overheats and blows gaskets like a 27th St hooker, leaks oil, and has a myriad of other fail points.

A lot of Ford's older engines were fairly sturdy and could last forever with very few issues, particularly their inline 6's and the 1.9L/2.0L 4 cylinder. But even the old 3.8 and 3.0L V6's would still be running if the cars with them in it hadn't been traded in for Cash For Clunkers. Today's Ford engines fail if you look at them the wrong way.

Chrysler always had issues, but even they had a few gems like their turbo 4's from the 80's and even their 3.8L V6 found in minivans in the 90's.
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First, they stopped making toyota, kia's ,honda's and nissan? They all have cars under 30k brand new.

And American cars turned to shit during the malaise era onwards, by they 00's they were trying to turn it around to get customers back.

But this whole post just proved me right saying American cars during the 90s were mostly garbage. Your rebuttal was to name a damn engine that was known as their most reliable lol. An v6 engine that was known to get firmly in the teens mpg in the city, mid to high 20's on the highway(if you were lucky) and also was known to have its own set of problems lol.

I remember my friend having a ford with that v6 you praised. Yea it ran, but it also guzzed fuel/oil and was always leaking. How does a weak v6 engine get v8 gas milage? We literally always laughed when he'd floor it and we'd watch the needle move on the gas gauge. The best part is he wasnt the only one we knew with an american car that wasnt a v8 that acted like this. Meanwhile some of us had imports we abused more and they still were more reliable were better in every metric compared to the american cars. And some of our cars were older.

Theres a reason why Japanese cars were stomping all over everything in the 90s. They were night and day compared to what america had to offer back then. To suggest anything else is just craziness.
 
LurkerSix said:
First, they stopped making toyota, kia's ,honda's and nissan? They all have cars under 30k brand new.

And American cars turned to shit during the malaise era onwards, by they 00's they were trying to turn it around to get customers back.

But this whole post just proved me right saying American cars during the 90s were mostly garbage. Your rebuttal was to name a damn engine that was known as their most reliable lol. An v6 engine that was known to get firmly in the teens mpg in the city, mid to high 20's on the highway(if you were lucky) and also was known to have its own set of problems lol.

I remember my friend having a ford with that v6 you praised. Yea it ran, but it also guzzed fuel/oil and was always leaking. How does a weak v6 engine get v8 gas milage? We literally always laughed when he'd floor it and we'd watch the needle move on the gas gauge. The best part is he wasnt the only one we knew with an american car that wasnt a v8 that acted like this. Meanwhile some of us had imports we abused more and they still were more reliable were better in every metric compared to the american cars. And some of our cars were older.

Theres a reason why Japanese cars were stomping all over everything in the 90s. They were night and day compared to what america had to offer back then. To suggest anything else is just craziness.
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The cheapest car sold in this country is the Hyundai Venue, which runs a hair over $20k. That shit ain't "cheap".

As has been stated by myself and @Black_Samson several times on this site the whole purpose for Cash for Clunkers was to remove the older 80's and 90's cars that were still on the road so US carmakers could sell new cars to people. There was little incentive for people to buy new cars at that time because the old joints were still running and viable with just regular maintenance. My MIL drove a '92 Olds Achieva that she bought brand new until 2013 when it finally died. That thing had over 300k miles on it. I sold our '94 Caravan with the aforementioned Chrysler 3.8L in at the end of 2022. It had over 270K miles on the odometer. And shit like that ain't even rare. Lotta American cars from back then could be run to over 200k miles with normal maintenance. American cars built up to the 90's/early 00's were still being built to last. More recent cars are engineered to break.
 
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