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Poll Rd 3: Common vs 2pac

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When a nigga pulls ur card you always run to "well i didn't really mean" "u know i dont really mean that". Whats the point of debating with a nigga who's too scared to stand by what he says?

nah...not today playa...i've been waiting on this shit

i got posts just from today...or rather this week...i forgot, i cant say today, and actually literally mean today or you will hold me to that

but you and either GOAT or Revolver had a nice lil back and forth where you tried defending your position b/c they held you to the same standard you hold to everyone else that if you say somebody got 10 wack tracks on an album, they ask you to name the 10, then you say you were exaggerating and werent being literal

point is, you are just as guilty as everyone for moving the goal posts when it suits your pov lol

BUT, my position has been clear in like two or three Pac threads where i've said, Pac, was a great artist...no doubt, BUT, he has flaws, strictly speaking from an emcee/rapper pov that you and the Legion of Pac refuse to acknowledge. I didnt shit on his influence or impact to the culture, but from a technical standpoint, Pac was just aight.

Did he tell dope stories? yes

Did he paint vivid pictures? Yes

Did he have hits? yes

Did he spawn a slew of copies? yes

but this is where i've tried to get ya'll to see...how easy/simple was his style that it was able to spawn so many clones? This is the Future/Migos arguement. Why do ALL the newer artists flock to their styles? Could it be that is quite simple to copy? Pac had countless clones, as evidenced by the stuff ya'll were saying about him in the other Pac thread.

I NEVER SAID PAC WAS WACK!! Lets make that clear, BUT, why can somebody make a mashup of lines Jay has said to "pay homage" to Big, and we good with that, but somebody bring up Pac's repetitive hennessy, enemy, Ecstasy , rhyme pattern, that ya'll get all up in arms about. It aint like im making the shit up.
 
nah...not today playa...i've been waiting on this shit

i got posts just from today...or rather this week...i forgot, i cant say today, and actually literally mean today or you will hold me to that

but you and either GOAT or Revolver had a nice lil back and forth where you tried defending your position b/c they held you to the same standard you hold to everyone else that if you say somebody got 10 wack tracks on an album, they ask you to name the 10, then you say you were exaggerating and werent being literal

point is, you are just as guilty as everyone for moving the goal posts when it suits your pov lol

BUT, my position has been clear in like two or three Pac threads where i've said, Pac, was a great artist...no doubt, BUT, he has flaws, strictly speaking from an emcee/rapper pov that you and the Legion of Pac refuse to acknowledge. I didnt shit on his influence or impact to the culture, but from a technical standpoint, Pac was just aight.

Did he tell dope stories? yes

Did he paint vivid pictures? Yes

Did he have hits? yes

Did he spawn a slew of copies? yes

but this is where i've tried to get ya'll to see...how easy/simple was his style that it was able to spawn so many clones? This is the Future/Migos arguement. Why do ALL the newer artists flock to their styles? Could it be that is quite simple to copy? Pac had countless clones, as evidenced by the stuff ya'll were saying about him in the other Pac thread.

I NEVER SAID PAC WAS WACK!! Lets make that clear, BUT, why can somebody make a mashup of lines Jay has said to "pay homage" to Big, and we good with that, but somebody bring up Pac's repetitive hennessy, enemy, Ecstasy , rhyme pattern, that ya'll get all up in arms about. It aint like im making the shit up.


Bruh, there's biggie clones, jay-z clones, eminem clones, weezy clones, u get the point. So that argument "only basic rappers only get cloned" is out the fuckin window.

Necks?
 
There's a billion MJ clones, that has to be the WOAT argument i've seen all week lol
 
Bruh, there's biggie clones, jay-z clones, eminem clones, weezy clones, u get the point. So that argument "only basic rappers only get cloned" is out the fuckin window.

Necks?
NAH, this was an argument you and Knock used to support Pac's influence on rap

dont retract now
 
and i can make an argument for someone who patterns their game after MJ vs an actual MJ clone (read Kobe Bryant)

the other "MJ clones" were people who could just dunk and white people was calling them "baby jordan" or some dumb shit like that
 
and i can make an argument for someone who patterns their game after MJ vs an actual MJ clone (read Kobe Bryant)

the other "MJ clones" were people who could just dunk and white people was calling them "baby jordan" or some dumb shit like that


That's how lost u are in this debate, we're talkin about music nigga, MJ= Michael jackson, keep up bruh
 
Whose a pac clone?

Remember Lil Zane?

His entire flow on 112's "anywhere" was Pac cloned. Or his song "calling me"...PAC cloning all over the track from the cadences to the style

Hell, Krazy from No Limit...even Master P himself.

Ja Rule is probably the biggest most well known Pac clone.
 
That's how lost u are in this debate, we're talkin about music nigga, MJ= Michael jackson, keep up bruh

who have they called MJ clones? Michael Trapson?

I'm being dead ass serious when i say this, but the ONLY time i have ever heard someone being compared to MJ (singer) was when they paid homage to him by doing the moonwalk.

That person just so happens to be Chris Brown, and on NO planet that i live on does he even come close to the talent found in the pocket lint of MJ. So people need to stop saying that shit, b/c the dancing is where it starts and stops.
 
So CB musically doesn't emulate MJ? The Weeknd doesn't emulate MJ?

Be real with urself for once b
 
dont worry about if fam

I just made it up

you didnt just say it/agree with goldie the other day

that didnt happen

Agree with Goldie about what breh? you aint saying what I was arguing about, I believe Goldie and I had different points we were conveying across the debate?
 
So CB musically doesn't emulate MJ? The Weeknd doesn't emulate MJ?

Be real with urself for once b

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