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Whatever. White kids get shot up and now the Constitution needs to get changed. Black kids get shot and all we get are shrugs.
 


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Watch The Compilation of Brutally Violent Video Games Trump Played at White House Meeting

“You don’t scare me, Communist piece of shit,” Chief Petty Officer Joseph Bowman tells his captors — just before a Spetnaz operative bashes his head in with a pipe in a violent rage.

That’s a scene from the video game Call of Duty: Black Ops, part of a montage video played by the President of the United States on Thursday for a group assembled at the White House to discuss new regulations on the gaming industry.

It was the latest in a series of listening sessions held by the president in the aftermath of the mass shooting at a high school in Parkland, Florida — and featured a gaggle of Republican lawmakers, conservative critics of the gaming industry as well as video game executives assembled for a private meeting to discuss the impact of violent games on children.

The video played by the president was subsequently released by the White House, and features a montage of some of the more infamously gory scenes from a variety of video games. The gruesome compilation includes a solider throwing a knife into an enemy’s eye socket; a man hacking a woman to death with an axe; a police officer getting impaled on a large hook; a machine gun massacre at an airport; a slow-motion decapitation; and, of course, plenty of headshots.

The Washington Post reported that the president opened up the meeting himself, by presenting the montage to his guests.

“This is violent isn’t it?” the president asked, according to Rep. Vicky Hartzler, a Republican from Missouri.

Trump has himself placed a focus on video games in the weeks since the Florida shooting, as WaPo noted, arguing they are “shaping young people’s thoughts.”

While critics of the industry attending the meeting urged Trump to explore new restrictions on violent games, a number of video games executives — including CEO of ZeniMax Robert Altman, CEO of Take Two Interactiv Strauss Zelnick — made the case that there is no connection between video games and violence.

Brent Bozell, president of conservative think tank Media Research Council and a longtime critic of violence in games (he once bemoaned Mortal Kombat for allowing players to “[rip] out the still-beating heart of an opponent with bare hands), also attended the meeting.

“I think he’s deeply disturbed by some of the things you see in these video games that are so darn violent, viciously violent, and clearly inappropriate for children, and I think he’s bothered by that,” Bozell told the Post of Trump.

Bozell said that he advocated that violent games “needed to be given the same kind of thought as tobacco and liquor.”
 
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Betsy DeVos Grilled on Backing Off Raising Gun Buying Age: ‘Sounds Like The NRA Got to’ Trump

After a trainwreck 60 Minutes interview, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos was hitting the morning shows on Monday, and didn’t fare much better in her first, on the Today show.

Host Savanah Guthrie brutally grilled President Donald Trump’s education secretary on the administration’s school safety bill, which backed off previous calls by the president to raise the minimum age to purchase certain guns from 18 to 21 years old.

“I’m looking at your plan, and it does not call for that age limit to be raised to 21 after all,” Guthrie said. “What happened?”

DeVos replied that “the plan is really the first step in a more lengthy process,” to which Guthrie interjected to say, “you’re saying it’s a longer process, yet the president has made clear what he thought.”

“So why is it that it is not in this plan? What happened, what changed?”

DeVos replied with another non-answer, eventually stating, “we have to go back to the beginning and talk about how these violent acts are even occurring to start with.”

Guthrie outlined the president’s back and forth on raising the age limit for buying guns, and after noting the NRA’s involvement in gun control talks after the Parkland, Florida high school shooting, said, “a lot of people are looking at that and thinking: sounds like the NRA got to him.”

“As I said earlier, everything is on the table,” DeVos replied.

Guthrie went on to continue grilling DeVos over the White House plan to arm teachers in schools, even asking whether teachers should carry assault weapons, “because presumably they may face assault weapons.”
 
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Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin: We Don’t Need New Gun Laws Because ‘We Can’t Protect Ourselves From Evil’

Following the White House’s release of modest proposals on gun regulations and background checks, Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin appeared on MSNBC this afternoon to discuss what President Donald Trump is proposing and whether they will help stop mass shootings.

With host Ali Velshi noting that Trump appeared to be in favor of tougher gun control laws after the Parkland shooting than what he eventually proposed, Bevin brushed off calls that the age limit for purchasing assault-style rifles be raised to 21.

“They’re using these to defend our nation in uniform and there is 18 and 19 and 20-year-old young men and women giving their lives in uniform so you and I could have the freedom of this conversation,” Bevin declared. “And the idea that this is the Second Amendment and it is protected by our constitution is something we should not take lightly. This is a very important protection.”

The two men would go on to spar a bit over the Second Amendment and guns in general, with Bevin stating knives could be used to carry off mass killings, citing a 2014 incident in China in which ten men armed with long knives killed 29 people at a train station.

Velshi said that is the one example everyone cites before listing off a number of recent American mass shootings, leading Bevin to declare that the United States doesn’t need more gun laws because it won’t help. After the MSNBC host explained that the 19-year-old Parkland shooter wasn’t breaking the law by purchasing an AR-15, the Republican governor pretty much said nothing could be done.

“At a certain point in society we can’t protect ourselves from evil,” he said. “That is a given and sad, harsh reality. Doesn’t mean you don’t have rules. Doesn’t mean you don’t make laws understood. But there are certain things at a certain point you can’t protect people from everything.”

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Trump Finds Unlikely Culprit in School Shootings: Obama Discipline Policies

After a gunman marauded through Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School last month, conservative commentators — looking for a culprit — seized on an unlikely target: an Obama-era guidance document that sought to rein in the suspensions and expulsions of minority students.

Black students have never been the perpetrators of the mass shootings that have shocked the nation’s conscience nor have minority schools been the targets. But the argument went that any relaxation of disciplinary efforts could let a killer slip through the cracks.

And this week, President Trump made the connection, announcing that Education Secretary Betsy DeVos will lead a school safety commission charged in part with examining the “repeal of the Obama administration’s ‘Rethink School Discipline’ policies.”

To civil rights groups, connecting an action to help minority students with mass killings in suburban schools smacked of burdening black children with a largely white scourge.

“Yet again, the Trump administration, faced with a domestic crisis, has responded by creating a commission to study an unrelated issue in order to ultimately advance a discriminatory and partisan goal,” said Sherrilyn Ifill, the president and director-counsel at NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc.

“School shootings are a grave and preventable problem, but rescinding the school discipline guidance is not the answer,” she said. “Repealing the guidance will not stop the next school shooter, but it will ensure that thousands more students of color are unnecessarily ushered into the school-to-prison pipeline.”

The issue of the Obama-era discipline guidance was raised formally by Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, who, after seeing a flurry of conservative news media reports, wrote a letter to Ms. DeVos and Attorney General Jeff Sessions questioning whether the guidance allowed the shooting suspect, Nikolas Cruz, to evade law enforcement and carry out the massacre at Stoneman Douglas High.

It was, on its face, an odd point: Mr. Cruz is white, and far from evading school disciplinary procedures, he had been expelled from Stoneman Douglas.

“The overarching goals of the 2014 directive to mitigate the school-to-prison pipeline, reduce suspensions and expulsions, and to prevent racially biased discipline are laudable and should be explored,” Mr. Rubio wrote, asking that the guidance be revised. “However, any policy seeking to achieve these goals requires basic common sense and an understanding that failure to report troubled students, like Cruz, to law enforcement can have dangerous repercussions.”

Broward County educators and advocates saw Mr. Rubio’s letter as an indictment of a program called Promise, which the county instituted in 2013 — one year before the Obama guidance was issued — and has guided its discipline reforms to reduce student-based arrests in Broward County, where Stoneman Douglas is.

The N.A.A.C.P. said that Mr. Rubio “notably backs away from raising the purchase age for assault-style rifles and restricting magazine capacity,” the N.A.A.C.P. said, and instead focuses on a system that once sent one million minority students to Florida jails for “simple and routine discipline issues ranging from talking back to teachers to schoolyard scuffles.”

The program was praised by former Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, and echoes the goals of the 2014 Obama guidance in discouraging schools from using law enforcement as a first line of defense for low-level offenses.

In the days before making his request, Mr. Rubio released a proposal that he said would remedy lapses in the Promise program and the 2014 guidance.

In a tweet on Tuesday, Mr. Rubio noted that the shooter was not in the Promise program, but had displayed violent and threatening behavior.

“The more we learn, the more it appears the problem is not the program or the DOE guidance itself, but the way it is being applied,” Mr. Rubio. said, referring to the Education Department. “It may have created a culture discourages referral to law enforcement even in egregious cases like the #Parkland shooter.”

Long before the attack in Parkland, Fla., the 2014 discipline guidelines, which encouraged schools to examine their discipline disparities and to take stock of discriminatory policies, were already on Ms. DeVos’s radar — but not because they were seen as a possible culprit in the next school shooting. Conservatives were using the Trump administration’s effort to rein in federal overreach to reverse policies designed to protect against what the Obama administration had seen as discriminatory practices.

The “Rethink Discipline,” package that Mr. Trump’s commission will examine, includes guidance that the Obama issued on the legal limitations on the use of restraints and seclusion, corporal punishment, and equity for special education students.

In recent months, educators and policy experts from across the country have traveled to Washington to voice support for and opposition to the disciplinary guidance, in private meetings with officials at the Education Department and in a series of public forums.

At a briefing hosted by the United States Commission on Civil Rights, dozens of policy experts, researchers, educators and parents sounded off on the Obama-era discipline policy in a meeting that became so racially charged that some black attendees walked out.

Since the discipline guidelines were issued, conservatives have blamed the document for creating unsafe educational environments by pressuring schools to keep suspension numbers down to meet racial quotas, even if it meant ignoring troubling and criminal behavior. Teachers who sought suspensions or expulsions of minority students were painted as racists, conservatives maintained.

“Evidence is mounting that efforts to fight the school-to-prison pipeline is creating a school climate catastrophe and has if anything put at-risk students at greater risk,” said Max Eden, a senior fellow at the conservative Manhattan Institute, who argued that teacher bias was not the driving force behind school discipline.

But proponents argued that racial bias was well documented.

When the guidance was issued, federal data found that African-American students without disabilities were more than three times as likely as their white peers without disabilities to be expelled or suspended, and that more than 50 percent of students who were involved in school-related arrests or who were referred to law enforcement were Hispanic or African-American.

“Children’s safety also includes protection from oppression and bigotry and injustice,” Daniel J. Losen, director of the Center for Civil Rights Remedies at the University of California at Los Angeles’s Civil Rights Project, wrote in testimony to the Civil Rights Commission. “Fear-mongering and rhetoric that criminalizes youth of color, children from poor families and children with disabilities should not be tolerated.”

The Education and Justice Departments wrote in a 2014 Dear Colleague letterthat discipline disparities could be caused by a range of factors, but the statistics in the federal data “are not explained by more frequent or more serious misbehavior by students of color.” The departments also noted that several civil rights investigations had verified that minority students were disciplined more harshly than their white peers for the same infractions.

“In short, racial discrimination in school discipline is a real problem,” the guidance said.

In recent months, Ms. DeVos has said change will be coming. She has already moved to rescind a regulation that protects against racial disparities in special education placements. Her goal, she said last month, was to be “sensitive to all of the parties involved.”
 
In a bruising interview on “60 Minutes” on Sunday, Ms. DeVos said that the disproportionate discipline issue “comes down to individual kids.” She declined to say whether she believed that black students disciplined more harshly for the same infraction were the victims of institutional racism.

“We’re studying it carefully and are committed to making sure students have opportunity to learn in safe and nurturing environments,” she said.

Ms. DeVos’s office for civil rights also announced that it would scale back the scope of investigations, reversing an approach taken under the Obama administration to conduct exhaustive reviews of school districts’ practices and data when a discrimination complaint was filed.

But Ms. DeVos’s own administration has continued to find racial disparities. In November, the Education Department found that the Loleta Union Elementary School District in California doled out harsher treatment to Native American students than their white peers. For example, a Native American student received a one-day out-of-school suspension for slapping another student on the way to the bus, in what was that student’s first disciplinary referral of the year. A white student received lunch detention for slapping two students on the same day — the student’s fifth and sixth referrals that year.

While Mr. Cruz was repeatedly kicked out of class and ultimately expelled, it is unclear whether he was ever referred to the police for his behavior in school. However, Mr. Cruz was known to law enforcement, which never found cause to arrest him, and a report of troublesome behavior to the F.B.I. went unheeded.

The Broward County superintendent, Robert Runcie, said that Mr. Rubio’s effort to connect the district’s discipline policies to the Stoneman Douglas shooting was misguided.

“We’re not going to dismantle a program that’s been successful in the district because of false information that someone has put out there,” Mr. Runcie said on Twitter. “We will neither manage nor lead by rumors.”

Its always the black man’s fault according to the Trump Administration...
 
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Students Protest Gun Violence In Nationwide Walkout

Young people in the U.S. walked out of school to demand action on gun violence Wednesday in the biggest demonstration yet of the student activism that has emerged since the massacre in Florida.

More than 3,000 walkouts were planned across the country and around the world, organizers said. Students were urged to leave class at 10 a.m. local time for 17 minutes — one minute for each of the dead in the Feb. 14 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

Max Poteat, a student who helped organize a walkout at North Carolina’s East Chapel Hill High School, said he was struck by the emotional weight of the moment.

“I think halfway through it really hit me, and I think everyone around, that these are teenagers just like us and that their lives were taken innocently — and that time is needed for change,” he said.

Thousands of students gathered on Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House, holding colorful signs and cheering in support of gun control. The students chanted, “Hey, hey, ho, ho. The NRA has got to go!” President Donald Trump was in Los Angeles at the time.

Stoneman Douglas High senior David Hogg livestreamed the walkout at the tragedy-stricken school in Parkland, Florida, on his YouTube channel. Walking amid a mass of people making their way onto the football field, he criticized politicians for not taking more action to protect students.

He said the students could not be expected to remain in class when there was work to do to prevent gun violence.

“Every one of these individuals could have died that day. I could have died that day,” he said.

From Florida to New York, students poured out of their schools, marching through the streets or gathering on campus to demonstrate.

At other schools, students created symbols to try to represent the tragedy. At Cooper City High, near Parkland, students gathered around 14 empty desks and three podiums arranged in a circle outside the school, representing the 14 students and three faculty members killed in the shooting. The students then released 17 doves from a box.

Some schools applauded students for taking a stand or at least tolerated the walkouts, while others threatened discipline.

About 10 students left West Liberty-Salem High School — which witnessed a shooting last year — despite a warning they could face detention or more serious discipline.

Police in the Atlanta suburb of Marietta patrolled Kell High, where students were threatened with unspecified consequences if they participated in the walkout. At least three students walked out anyway. A British couple walking their dogs went to the school to encourage students but were threatened with arrest if they did not leave.

The coordinated walkout was organized by Empower, the youth wing of the Women’s March, which brought thousands to Washington last year.

Although the group wanted students to shape protests on their own, it also offered them a list of demands for lawmakers, including a ban on assault weapons and mandatory background checks for all gun sales.

Historians said the demonstrations were shaping up to be one of the largest youth protests in decades.

“It seems like it’s going to be the biggest youth-oriented and youth-organized protest movements going back decades, to the early ’70s at least,” said David Farber a history professor at the University of Kansas who has studied social change movements.

“Young people are that social media generation, and it’s easy to mobilize them in way that it probably hadn’t been even 10 years ago.”

The walkouts drew support from companies including media conglomerate Viacom, which paused programming on MTV, BET and all its other networks for 17 minutes during the walkouts.

Other protests planned in coming weeks include the March for Our Lives rally for school safety, which organizers say is expected to draw hundreds of thousands to the nation’s capital on March 24. Another round of school walkouts is planned for April 20, the 19th anniversary of the Columbine High shooting in Colorado.
 
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Shaq: Put cops in schools, don't ban guns

Basketball Hall of Famer Shaquille O'Neal has supported the police for years -- being sworn in as a sheriff's deputy in 2016 and saying he'll run for sheriff in a few years -- so his answer to ending school shootings is additional support for cops, not a ban on guns.

"The government should give law enforcement more money," he said on WABC Radio's "Curtis and Cosby" show on Wednesday. "Give more money, you recruit more people, and the guys that are not ready to go on the streets, you put them in front of the schools. You put 'em in front of the schools, you put 'em behind the schools, you put 'em inside the schools, and we need to pass information. ... I would like to see police officers in schools, inner cities, private schools."

O'Neal lives in Florida, so the Feb. 14 shooting in Parkland that killed 17 people hit close to home.

"You know it was a very, very sad incident," he said. "Close to my heart. I actually live in Fort Lauderdale. I actually knew the sheriff, called him and told him he did a wonderful job."

O'Neal showed interest in law enforcement years ago, has unofficially gone through a police academy program and has been named an honorary officer or reserve officer by agencies around the country. He announced in May that he plans to run for sheriff in Georgia in 2020.

Although many law enforcement groups have supported bans on semiautomatic weapons, O'Neal doesn't think a ban is the answer.

"There's a lot of those weapons already on the streets," O'Neal said. "So it's not like, if you say, 'OK, these weapons are banned,' people are gonna go, 'Oh man, let me turn it in.' That's definitely not going to happen.

"'Cause once you ban 'em, now they're going to become a collector's item and you're going to have people underground, and they were $2,000. ... I'll give you $9,000 for that gun. So, you know, we just need to keep our eyes open."

But O'Neal does support students who are marching to protest gun violence in schools. On Wednesday, students across the country walked out of their schools to honor those killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and protest gun violence.

"I wish I could join 'em, but you know, hopefully it sends a message to the powers that be," he said. "'Cause we have to stop this. ... I would like to see tougher background checks. If you can't protect our children in school, where are they safe?"

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