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southsil4lil said:
@King Freeman how concerned are you about Nick Nurse going with the Dantoni 7 man rotation?

Im not surprised at all by how well Toronto has played to start the season but the one thing that worries me is it seems like Nurse only trusts about 7.5 guys on the roster at least at the moment

Kyle Lowry playing 38 minutes at 34 years old cant be ideal
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No cause nick nurse can actually coach. No disrespect.

Lowry is useless if he's being held back.
I was already saying in the fantasy thread Lowry gon be gassed by January and have some stupid injury right around allstar break it's coming. It's just how the nigga is built. He's going till he can't. He has to go through that process every season for some reason lol. He's always there when we need him tho. With his deal extended 1 season I think the expectation on both sides is he's gonna go full tilt then start his ride off into the sunset next year. He's never really depended on athleticism l a high IQ nigga.

We know now fred van vleet is ready to fill that role. This time around. Powell always seems to rise to the occasion when the team is in next man up mode. In fact it seems that's the only time you can really count on dude to show out.

And Terrence Davis and Matt Thomas are in the cut and have already shown their maturity level are above other rookies. Those two are ready to go if their names are called. I'm not worried about them.

Macaw can also fill in at pg, sg, and sf, and he knows himself. He never gets caught up doing too much he does what the team needs and gets in where he fits in.

Our team is deep af. Out the gate it seems nurse is sticking with his championship guys. Lowry, van vleet, og, siakam, gasol, ibaka, powell, macaw are the rotation. With foul trouble mins trickling down to boucher and Davis. Basically just rolling out the championship pedigree and niggas he doesn't need to ask shit twice. Gasol needs to pick it up but otherwise it's fine.

OG has softened the blow of losing Kawhi. He's been playing all NBA defense while improving his offensive game a ton.

People forget he missed pretty much half the season and all the playoffs last year. (His parents died and he had an appendectomy)
 

Can the Heat keep all its young players and have max cap space in 2021? Here’s the answer


As the Heat watches the impressive emergence of several young players - led by Bam Adebayo, Justise Winslow, Kendrick Nunn and Tyler Herro - here’s even more good news:

Because of cap rules and prudent planning by the Heat front office, Miami -- barring a China-related significant drop in the salary cap -- should be able to keep nearly all of its emerging young players longterm and still have the cap space to add a max free agent in the summer of 2021, when Giannis Antetokounmpo, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard, Victor Olapido, Gordon Hayward, Blake Griffin, LaMarcus Aldridge and Paul George are eligible for free agency.

But the numbers are going to be close.

Besides those aforementioned four, the other young players who might be part of the Heat’s future are Derrick Jones Jr., Duncan Robinson, KZ Ozpala and two-way player Chris Silva. And the Heat’s first-round pick next June will give Miami a group of nine young players, provided that pick isn’t used in a trade on draft night or after.

Of those nine, the one who would appear most at risk of needing to be sacrificed to maintain max space in 2021 would be Jones Jr., an impending unrestricted free agent. Miami is not in position to add commitments for 2021-22 beyond deals barely above the league minimum, and Jones should be able to command more than that next summer.

Also, these permutations - in which the Heat would have max space in 2021 and keep nearly all of its young players - involve the Heat renouncing 2021 free agents Kelly Olynyk (has an opt-out next summer), Dion Waiters and James Johnson and not keeping 2020 free agents Goran Dragic and Meyers Leonard beyond next season. (Dragic and Leonard could return on one-year deals next summer.)

But here’s why the Heat should be able to afford to keep nearly all of its young players and have room to bid for a max free agent in 2021:

Though Kendrick Nunn (and Robinson) will be restricted free agents in 2021, their cap holds will be just $2.1 million or in Nunn’s case, possibly $4.7 million. That means the Heat could keep Nunn’s cap hold on its cap ($2.1 million or $4.7 million), spend up to the cap on outside free agents and then go over the cap to re-sign Nunn to anything, including the ability to match any outside offer.

Cap expert Albert Nahmad noted, and a league source confirmed, that Nunn’s cap hold could rise to $4.7 million if he meets starter criteria. A player who is eligible for restricted free agency is considered to have met the starter criteria if he plays at least 2,000 minutes or starts 41 games in the season before he reaches free agency, or if he averages either of those marks in the two seasons prior to his restricted free agency.

So for hypothetical sake, let’s say Nunn consumes $4.7 million and Robinson consumes $2.1 million of the Heat’s 2021-22 cap space, with the cap projected to be $125 million that season. (And we’ll get to the China issue later.)

Beyond those two players, the Heat’s 2021-22 commitments include Jimmy Butler at $36 million, Winslow at $13 million (team option), Herro at $4 million, Okpala at $1.8 million and an Adebayo cap hold of $12.8 million (any first year salary above that can exceed the cap).

Throw in about $4 million for the Heat’s 2020 first-round pick, $3 million or so in cap holds and $5.2 million in dead money on Ryan Anderson, and that’s $84 million on the books for 2021-22.

That would leave Miami with about $38.4 million in space under the $125 million cap projection.

And using that $125 million, that would be enough to accommodate the $37.5 million first-year max salary for players who have played seven to nine years (such as Antetokounmpo and Oladipo) but fall short of the $43.8 million first-year max for older players such as George, Hayward, Griffin and Aldridge. (Here’s where I should note that if the Heat and one of those older players want to make a deal in 2021, they will find a way to achieve it.)

Why the difference in first-year salaries? Ten-plus year veterans can make 35 percent of the cap in the first year, compared to 30 percent for 7-to-9 year vets. And remember, these outside star free agents can make much more and sign for an extra year if they stay with their current teams.

If Adebayo agreed to a deal starting below his $12.8 million cap hold, that could increase Miami’s flexibility. But he stands to make more than that.

There could be a way to keep Jones if he agrees to a modest contract next summer, keeping alive his 2021 Bird rights, and if Miami renounces Robinson in 2021 and moves on from Okpala.

Could any of this be affected if the preseason issue with China leads to a significant reduction in NBA revenue? It could. But remember that first-year max salaries are based on a percentage of the cap. So max salaries will diminish if the cap diminishes. And a league executive said there has been no indication from the league that the cap will fall short of 2021 projections.

But as things stand currently, the Heat should be able to keep nearly all of its young core longterm and have the cap space to add a star to join Butler and the kids.

And credit smart planning for that; keep in mind that if Nunn had signed with the Heat last May instead of on the final day of the season, he wouldn’t have had full Bird Rights and re-signing him might have been challenging if he continues on this current arc.

And make no mistake: Unless the Heat can trade for a star in the next two years, the plan is to continue to preserve that max cap space for 2021 so the Heat can at least make a run at Antetokounmpo and others.
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King Freeman said:
Our team is full of undrafted players, late first rounders and 2nd round picks. In fact I'm almost certain no one on the Raptors was drafted top 20 accept Stanley Johnson who isn't in the rotation.

All my niggas grind and they got a ring to show for it. Jimmy butler is not special and hasn't done shit. Again.
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@Pelicans fans, im really liking what im seeing from Brandon Ingram so far this season. its only 6-7 games but he looks ready to take the leap to stardom. Just gotta hope he keeps it up after the huge contract he bout to get
 
@AP21 I'm trying man.....

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Beta said:
lol @ being bitter over jimmy not wanting to be on the trash bulls

Guess you gonna hate Zach Lavine too
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I'm not a fan of anyone who's not on my team. Enjoy those second round playoff exits that bum will lead you to before he place blame on everyone else.
 
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