NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani Thread

[SeaSnake]

We should never feel this way when the main subjects being effected are Black people. We never have to move forward after 9/11 or the Holocust, but for Slavery? Yeah we are always told to move forward.....................



Who are the people telling you that the Dems are weak? The literally have no power in Congress, because Republicans have the House, Senate, SCOTUS, and the White House. What exactly are people trying to convey when they tell you that the party that holds no power at any political juncture looks weak? This is like people telling you that a team that is missing its entire starting 5 looks bad. No shit. They don't have any starters available. Be weary of people that like to peddle and lean on the Dems looking weak talking point..............



Again, what exactly are you expecting from the party that holds no political power? The Uncommitted movement literally sought to weaken Democrats to the point where, they hold no power. So now that Dems don't hold any power, people are saying that they're not fighting back? This is like a kid letting all of his friends eating all of the food at his parents house and then complaining to his parents that he doesn't like it here because they don't have shot to eat and trying to make his parents look bad.



Anybody looking for the perfect or right candidate is playing the game wrong and missing the larger point..........

Every single political movement in this country is designed to suppress Black people. They are either built on racism or rooted in jealousy against Black people. None of these "POC" movements can stand on their own. They have to hijack Black movements and ride our co-tails and they are always just white enough when it gets too hot in the kitchen.

Does it matter who the Democratic candidate is? Has it ever mattered who the Republican candidate is? No, because they're entire political establishment is rooted in white supremacy and anti-Blackness.

But when it comes to Democrats, all of a sudden the candidate has to meet certain criteria?

Why?

That's because the backbone of the Democratic party is Black people and no matter what any of y'all niggas think politically, this country can never let Black people get what we want. Then niggas will turn around and talk endlessly about how terrible our candidates are. Nigga, that is by design............

Black people have a;ways had to make concessions. No other griup has tpo do that. The worst whote person can run for whatever office. A "POC" can position themselves as an achitecht of change and ride the Black wave and bring their people along with them.

Then niggas think that complaining about this and pointing it out makes them look? What is it that niggas who do this are trying to accomplish? These are the types of niggas that have so much shit to say about why we are where we are politically but we don't need a fucking Read Baby Read book report. Any nigga that has been halfway paying attention knows exactly what I'm saying but these days, the Black political commentary has been reduced to bare minimums like niggas thinking that they are dropping knowledge by resorting to attacking and blaming Black people for the shit that other people are doing and taking advantage of us with.

Bruh I haven’t read everything because I’m at work. I have never once stated to move past slavery at all and you’ve never seen me say that. I’m talking about moving past Kamala. She did not win we can’t go back in time. Unless she runs again we need a new person up. I don’t think it’s gonna be the mayor tho.

And people were saying the Dems were weak since Trump won the first time and when Biden was in charge. We just saw the young dude that survived the Parkland shooting get ousted because he wanted Democrats in something new. It seems like they are doing a strategy that is not working for them or is.

Not looking for a perfect candidate but somebody at least good. If they gave Kamala more than just 6 months it might’ve worked but once Biden failed that debate and they scrambled it looked bad.

I’m not blaming black oeople for anything bro

 

[Los216]

Isn’t this the same stance the Muslims for Trump and other groups took during the election period based on the Gaza genocide

That they all now regret?

There's a bigger picture. Look at the people who are following them. Look at how they are reacting now versus when they thought that they were the ones dishing it out.

I don't want to downplay this, but, there's no group of people in America who are more impacted by voting than Black people. There are other groups of people who can afford to sit out elections, not push for certain issues or changes, switch sides, or just not give a fuck about politics in general. We cannot afford to do so. For everyone in this country, when voting doesn't go your way, they'll be alright. For us, when voting doesn't go our way, the fallout is generational.

So for non-Black people to have the audacity to fuck around with their vote KNOWING that the results would be more detrimental to Black people than anyone as as usual, that's not something that niggas should let go, move past, ignore, or talk through.

It's fuck them for that.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

There's a bigger picture. Look at the people who are following them. Look at how they are reacting now versus when they thought that they were the ones dishing it out.

I don't want to downplay this, but, there's no group of people in America who are more impacted by voting than Black people. There are other groups of people who can afford to sit out elections, not push for certain issues or changes, switch sides, or just not give a fuck about politics in general. We cannot afford to do so. For everyone in this country, when voting doesn't go your way, they'll be alright. For us, when voting doesn't go our way, the fallout is generational.

So for non-Black people to have the audacity to fuck around with their vote KNOWING that the results would be more detrimental to Black people than anyone as as usual, that's not something that niggas should let go, move past, ignore, or talk through.

It's fuck them for that.

I agree

 

[Los216]

I have never once stated to move past slavery at all and you’ve never seen me say that.

I'm not saying that you did specifically. I'm making a general point about the mindset that people have towards Black voters and Black issues.

I’m talking about moving past Kamala. She did not win we can’t go back in time.

I understand that, but we need to talk about how we got to that point. People who were turning away from Kamala (and in turn, Black voters) on some phony ass protest type of shit, are now the same muthafuckas that want US to get behind them?

I cannot fuck with that.

And people were saying the Dems were weak since Trump won the first time and when Biden was in charge.

Which people specifically? Remember, 53% of white people voted for Trump over HRC. There was no split on Black voters. We were over 85% against Trump in all of his elections. So when you say that people were saying that Dems were weak, what people are you referring to? Because Black people could've been saying it but the numbers say that WE still voted accordingly.

Basically what I'm saying is, if your people didn't vote accordingly every single time against Trump, then you can't be the voice of anything. You can't lead any movement.

For example, Latino's have been showing their entire ass for Trump in every election. There's no way that any Latino can be trusted by Black people to be in front of any movement whatsoever. Same goes for white women who voted 53% for Trump and now, the same shit applies to those people who thought that they were being cool by being uncommitted because of Palestine?

None of those groups can be trusted by Black people. WE did what we were supposed to do and we're at the point where WE are not going to follow any other group....anywhere. They can't be trusted.

Not looking for a perfect candidate but somebody at least good.

Good compared to who bruh? HRC, Biden, and Kamala are all good candidates compared to any Republican that you run them up against including Trump.

When you say that candidate has to be good, who's standards are you using? Because HRC, a white woman was a good candidate. Joe Biden, was a good candidate. Kamala, was a good candidate. Obama, was a good candidate. The last 4 Democratic POTUS candidates have been 1 white man, 1 white woman, 1 Black man, and 1 Black woman.

This is one of the problems that we have. WE (Black people) are letting people who are Not Like Us (no pun..ok, maybe) tell US what an acceptable candidate is and at the end of the day, we might bitch and fight and dunk on each other about it, but We still vote accordingly.

NOBODY ELSE DOES.

None of these other groups can be trusted.

I’m not blaming black oeople for anything bro

I know that you aren't. My point is that, the state of the Democratic party is being frames as if the fault lies with........................

You guess it, Black people.

Any way you slice it, it is somehow our fault.

In the lates edition, after Black people told everybody to vote for Kamala, there was a very specific voting group(s) that wanted to fuck around with their vote. Now those people are WEAPONIZING THEIR CHOICE TO BREAK AWAY FROM BLACK PEOPLE IN 2024 TO TRY AND CAPATILIZE ON YET ANOTHER MOVEMENT THAT BLACK PEOPLE STARTED AND USE THAT TO POSITION THEMSELVES.......WHERE WE WERE GOING TO TAKE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.............

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

 

[Infamous114]

 

[Infamous114]

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

But he s a socialist lmao

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

 

[Swiffness!]

Mamdani won in Harlem btw lol

And before you ask, replace Kamal with literally any other Black candidate in 2024 and these people would've had the same exact stance.

This is such bullshit lol.

If this hypothetical other Black candidate was also throwing the cape on for Biden's wildly unpopular foreign policy, which famously included enabling blatant Israeli genocide, then yes these people would have had the exact same stance. DUH NIGGA. Jesus fucking christ. What do you expect?

do we really think Arabs in Michigan woulda been cool with their cousins being exterminated by a AI kill list if Biden had a cac VP?

The president was a senile zionist and Netanyahu was playing him like a fiddle. I can't blame Arab-Americans for feeling desperate - if any Dem president had helped apartheid South Africa do this level of butchery back in the day, there would have been hell to pay from black voters. If that means cutting off the nose to spite the face, so be it.

What infuriates me the most about Kamala is how she ran like she was afraid of hurting Joe's feelings. There was no reason to align herself with White House policy once she was the candidate. Prevent defense-ass campaign smh

Does it matter who the Democratic candidate is? Has it ever mattered who the Republican candidate is?

Yes, just ask John McCain, Bob Dole, and Mitt Romney. WIN OR GO HOME. I dont accept excuses from a football coach I'm not taking them from a goddamn losing politician lmao. Andrew Cuomo ran a dogshit lazy campaign while Mamdani was out in the streets. Off that alone these results should have surprised no-one.

Black Democratic Primary voters are indeed the backbone of the party but it was also their brilliant idea to make Hillary fucking Clinton and then Joe Biden said party's leader, so..... maybe next time they should think twice before listening to all the old black preachers and elderly assemblymen telling them to vote for Massa Centrist again.

 

[Gray Matter]

 

[Los216]

Mamdani won in Harlem btw lol



This is such bullshit lol.

If this hypothetical other Black candidate was also throwing the cape on for Biden's wildly unpopular foreign policy, which famously included enabling blatant Israeli genocide, then yes these people would have had the exact same stance. DUH NIGGA. Jesus fucking christ. What do you expect?

do we really think Arabs in Michigan woulda been cool with their cousins being exterminated by a AI kill list if Biden had a cac VP?

The president was a senile zionist and Netanyahu was playing him like a fiddle. I can't blame Arab-Americans for feeling desperate - if any Dem president had helped apartheid South Africa do this level of butchery back in the day, there would have been hell to pay from black voters. If that means cutting off the nose to spite the face, so be it.

What infuriates me the most about Kamala is how she ran like she was afraid of hurting Joe's feelings. There was no reason to align herself with White House policy once she was the candidate. Prevent defense-ass campaign smh



Yes, just ask John McCain, Bob Dole, and Mitt Romney. WIN OR GO HOME. I dont accept excuses from a football coach I'm not taking them from a goddamn losing politician lmao. Andrew Cuomo ran a dogshit lazy campaign while Mamdani was out in the streets. Off that alone these results should have surprised no-one.

Yet, Progressives do not have popular candidates. They can't win elections. Their whole political ideology is built on attacking the establishment.

If Progressives were as popular as they talk online, they wouldn't have to pop up like grifters during every election telling people that they are stupid for voting for establishment Democrats which, the entire idea of calling any non Progressive Democrat and establishment Democrat is one of the reasons why people don't take Progressives seriously.

Black Democratic Primary voters are indeed the backbone of the party but it was also their brilliant idea to make Hillary fucking Clinton and then Joe Biden said party's leader, so..... maybe next time they should think twice before listening to all the old black preachers and elderly assemblymen telling them to vote for Massa Centrist again.

I want to specifically address this statement you made separately................

Respectfully........

I don't know if you're Black or not but, for you to write out that statement and use those characterizations...............

This is a slap in the face to every Black person that came before you that help make it possible for you to even have a fucking opinion. You don't have to worship anybody my nigga. You don't have to love or even like the people that came before you. But you definitely don't need to talk about them like this.

My great grandparents were born in the deep south. They didn't get an opportunity to even finish school.....They were not taught how to read, write, and do shit that we are TAUGHT at an early age. My great-great-grandmother picked cotton and made clothes for a LIVING. By the time my family like many others moved to areas outside of the deep south, the amount of "Progress" that Black people had made was night and day compared to what some of our ancestors had to endure.

We don't need to rehash the atrocities because I'm sure we're all familiar with them or at least we should be. Our history is very well known. So to know this, and then align yourself with people who's entire political ideology is to latch on to the Black plights when it's convenient to further their own agenda and then turn around and disrespect Black people that way, is some sucka ass shit. There's more disparaging words I can use to describe it but the fact that you know what I'm talking about, and you have to sit in and own that should be enough.......


Like..............

Your characterization of Black voters that you laid out is basically House Niggas. That's what you think about Black voters? Black voters are just dumb House Niggas that should be listening to and taking a backseat to Arabs because of tragedies that are occurring in their home countries?

We should listen to Arabs because they are going through something fucked up in parts of the world where most niggas aren't even welcome......

We should listen to Latinos because MAGA has used racism towards Latinos to build their platform.

We should stop listening to our own people who have fucking lived this experience for generations....

You got it my nigga.

 

[Los216]

Who is this statement addressed to though? This sounds like a statement towards white people and if so, we don't need to make it make sense. Why are we still trying to make sense of their racism, bigotry, and ignorance?

This is why it's dangerous for Black people to be following and trusting people leading agendas and movements that do not have our interest at all.

What's so motivating about Mamdani that Kamala didn't speak on delivering? If this is all based on genocide and conflicts in Gaza, then why the fuck are niggas letting that specific situation get them hung on up voting for the candidate that will most directly impact their quality of life?

I'm confused on why the energy for Mamdani is there but that energy couldn't be matched for Kamala. Does this really boil down to war? If so, are niggas being fucking real right now?

 

[Los216]

I'm not going to post the pictures, but something tells me that these people don't have this same energy towards Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Shumer when people like Jasmine Crockett are on the receiving end of these attacks.

Not only that, Mehdi knows that Democrats have next to zero political power. Directly calling out the Democratic leadership do something after NOT VOTING TO SUPPORT THAT LEADERSHIP IN THE LAST ELECTION which directly led to Democrats having no power, is the exact type of sucka shit that I'm talking about.

How bold for people who made excuses about supporting the Democrats to now DEMAND that they take action when it is beneficial to them.

What are we doing here man?

I think we're all smart enpough on this site to see what's really going on. The fact that NIGGAS get on here and talk night and day about how Democrats got Black people brainwashed but can't see when other groups of people are running plays from the same playbook.........

 

[Los216]

 

[Los216]

Progressives are not good at taking L's.

 

[Infamous114]

 

[Infamous114]

Lol I'm so confused

 

[farkie]

Two powerful New York City labor unions that had supported former Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo in this year’s race for mayor have decided to abandon him and endorse Zohran Mamdani, the 33-year-old state assemblyman who has a commanding lead in the Democratic primary.

The two endorsements, along with one from a third union that did not back a candidate in the primary, seemed to be a clear sign that traditional Democratic power brokers are beginning to consolidate behind Mr. Mamdani.

Leaders of the three unions, the Hotel and Gaming Trades Council; Local 32BJ SEIU, which represents doormen and other building workers; and the New York State Nurses Association, said they were supporting Mr. Mamdani, a democratic socialist, because he had made affordability and working people his campaign’s centerpiece. They promised to invest in boots-on-the-ground campaigns to help him beat Mayor Eric Adams in November.

The switch to Mr. Mamdani may be a nod to political reality. The general election is poised to be particularly heated, but the Democratic candidate for mayor is the generally considered the heavy favorite to win in a city where Democrats outnumber Republicans six to one.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm not going to post the pictures, but something tells me that these people don't have this same energy towards Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Shumer when people like Jasmine Crockett are on the receiving end of these attacks.

This is true, but, to be fair, Crockett is a fighter. They usually attack here because she be taking it to their asses. This dude is being attacked for no other reason than he's a Muslim. That is different.