Memphis mom accused of murder of 20 year old man in daughter’s bedroom

Duwop said:
I'll keep it a buck, I was a 20 year old dude that got lied to, or well... deceived.

From my perspective, I was driving by the community college, and I saw a cute chick on the bus stop with a kid, at like 10pm on a weekday...I pulled up...and was like, you need a ride...

She came off like a chick who was in night classes while tryna raise a kid....I kicked it with her for a minute.... Until, I found out one day, from her mom, that she was actually 16.. She was at the community college tryna get her GED, cuz she dropped out, due to the kid. Shorty was 100% underage, and the was the absolute last time I reached out to her...

There was no sneaking around situation, cuz she really moved around like she was grown...well her people's let her move around like she was grown. She had me thinking she was grown.

But she wasn't. And that shit fucked me up, I think I went celibate for a year after the experience.
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Knock_Twice said:
I'm hard pressed only because, we let too much shit slide and wanna coddle stupid behavior when it comes to one gender.

We wanna act as if teens are so dumb, and don't know anything

If a story comes out about anybody on this site, about their kids, etc, my 1st thought would be, "At least I know their parents laid down law"

Just by reading some of your posts, freeman, and a few others, I'll be on some "oh they get it" maybe not as pressed as me, but they understand what the fuck is going on out here.


We keep saying "The older man or woman should know better" Knock agrees, but Knock also knows that this world is sick and folks will do anything to get their fix, Niggas and Bitches are grimey, and they'll do anything to feed that monkey

My job as a parent, big uncle, bro bro, friend is to give the game as Raw as i could give it. I don't sugar coat nothing, I gotta tell MY side, "Aye, look out for the Big Bad Wolf, This is what they look like, this is how they talk, things they say or will do" Stay away from the Big Bad Wolves.

Now you know better for your own, I'm not always going to be around, but you got the game

We are expecting the Big Bad Wolves or in this case "sick grown men or women" to behave like human beings?


I don't put nothing past nobody, especially adults. I'm not relying on anybody to "know better" even myself should know better but I slip up and eat desserts

But yea,
Lock her ass up in my opinion.
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Teens are in fact dumb
 
Freeman said:
At 19-20 I was definitely bringing chicks home from the club and being sneaky about it. Not sure wgat to tell you but its not as outlandish as you guys are trying to make it. Its regular.
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Im saying that at 19 I didn't have to sneak anything. I would just bring the girl to the crib. Wasn't no sneaking around or having to try and hide. She walking in through the front door.
 
mryounggun said:
The 13 year old sent her mom to prison'?

The 13 year old 'sent her friend to an early grave'?

The grown woman who decided to execute a man on her front porch didn't send herself to jail? It was the child that sent her to jail? The grown man who entered another person's house, in Memphis, in the middle of the night, uninvited by the homeowner, didn't send himself to an early grave. It was the child who sent him to an early grave?

Surely you don't mean that.
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The catalyst was the 13 year old girl feeling confident to sneak her friend in the house against her parents permission.

I'm my experiences with girls, by 13, you should know better than sneaking ANYONE in your house... Like if my 13 year old daughter snuck a 13 year old boy in my house and got caught?.... The boy would 100% leave with his life.... But she is in a fuck ton of punishment as a result. She fucked up.... at a high level. That's like the worst possible thing to do at that age.....sneak someone in my house? For sex? At 13??? Yeah.... The highest level of punishment I can distribute as a parent... That 13 year old will get.

This girl snuck in a 20 year old..and the result is the man is dead, and the parent is in prison. These consequences are way heavier than sneaking in a boy her age. But she did sneak the nigga in. So she 100% should hold herself accountable for the consequences that happened to her mother and the dude she let in.

Even if there's no law for it, she gotta hold that.. Cuz many 13 year girls know better than to sneak ANYBODY in their house..

And at 13, it's perfectly acceptable to tell a person they were using bad judgement.
 
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AP4.0 said:
Teens are in fact dumb
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So if they are dumb, smart or whatever, why should they not be held accountable for their actions?

Don't you praise them and reward them when they do good? Why they can't be punished for the mistakes they made?

We punish them for everything else, but we pump the breaks when they cross the line with being involved with older women or men?

Can't be selective imo.
 
Duwop said:
The catalyst was the 13 year old girl feeling confident to sneak her friend in the house against her parents permission.

I'm my experiences with girls, by 13, you should know better than sneaking ANYONE in your house... Like if my 13 year old daughter snuck a 13 year old boy in my house and got caught?.... The boy would 100% leave with his life.... But she is in a fuck ton of punishment as a result. She fucked up.... at a high level. That's like the worst possible thing to do at that age.....sneak someone in my house? For sex? At 13??? Yeah.... The highest level of punishment I can distribute as a parent... That 13 year old will get.

This girl snuck in a 20 year old..and the result is the man is dead, and the parent is in prison. These consequences are way heavier than sneaking in a boy her age. But she did sneak the nigga in. So she 100% should hold herself accountable for the consequences that happened to her mother and the dude she let in.

Even if there's no law for it, she gotta hold that.. Cuz many 13 year girls know better than to sneak ANYBODY in their house..

And at 13, it's perfectly acceptable to tell a person they were using bad judgement.
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Of course you can tell them they're using bad judgment. But expecting a 13 year old to fully understand the consequences, especially that it could result in death, isn't as clear as "I warned them so they should know"
 
BlackRain said:
Very dumb. They're not infantiles but they damn sure still not thinking fully of the consequences of shit. And will very much act on their impulses
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I know you didn't say it,

Being dumb doesn't absorb you from being held accountable for you actions.

If a teen robs a bank, they shouldn't be let off the hook?

If a teen robs you, you would want them to be prosecuted.


If a teen crosses that line of knowing what's wrong, they should be held accountable for their actions.

What happens, teens that get told that, it's not their fault, or it was the "other" side that made the mess, they grow up to be adults who always put blame on to others.

They don't know how to handle be accountable for their fuck ups.

Start holding children and teens accountable for actions and cutting down excuses, you may get a better person.
 
At the end of the day a grown ass man decided to sneak into a home that was not his.

Context of the situation doesn’t change that fact, only strengthens he knew the actions he was taking had consequences.



Serious question… Yall wasn’t tired of working that hard for pussy by 20?

I was sick of it by 17.
 
BlackRain said:
Of course you can tell them they're using bad judgment. But expecting a 13 year old to fully understand the consequences, especially that it could result in death, isn't as clear as "I warned them so they should know"
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That's a life lesson she rightfully learned by dealing with a grown man.

If it was a boy her age, it might not have resulted in death and not having her mother at home. And she needs to understand that going forward in life. I ain't saying throw the girl in jail. But whoever is the next responsible adult that has to deal with her needs to place emphasis on everything that transpire and let her know... She is not to be sneaking anybody in any more houses she resides in.

Like think if this was your niece, and your sister went to jail. And she had to come into your home? Would you not be more diligent in paying attention to how she moves and if she's still in the business of trying to talk to grown ass men??

Or would you just give her the benefit of doubt and not bother?
 
Black_Samson said:
At the end of the day a grown ass man decided to sneak into a home that was not his.

Context of the situation doesn’t change that fact, only strengthens he knew the actions he was taking had consequences.



Serious question… Yall wasn’t tired of working that hard for pussy by 20?

I was sick of it by 17.
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Realistically, same question
This your niece and your sister, and they bring her to your house in the aftermath of this situation.

What talk do you give her regarding boys and who comes in your house?
 
Duwop said:
Realistically, same question
This your niece and your sister, and they bring her to your house in the aftermath of this situation.

What talk do you give her regarding boys and who comes in your house?
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I tell her the rules and the consequences for breaking each rule.

It’s a dictatorship not a democracy, ain’t no discussion because that leads to being reactionary like the mother was.

Discussing things muddies the waters.

Leaves no room for guessing or thinking they can game the system, because even that will be covered.

If they don’t like it, there’s a girls camp up in Arizona that fights wild fires, they’d love to have her.
 
Knock_Twice said:
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So if they are dumb, smart or whatever, why should they not be held accountable for their actions?

Don't you praise them and reward them when they do good? Why they can't be punished for the mistakes they made?

We punish them for everything else, but we pump the breaks when they cross the line with being involved with older women or men?

Can't be selective imo.
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Acknowledging they are dumb isn't absolving them from said action that was deemed to be dumb or giving them a pass for being dumb
 
BlackRain said:
Of course you can tell them they're using bad judgment. But expecting a 13 year old to fully understand the consequences, especially that it could result in death, isn't as clear as "I warned them so they should know"
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Yes, we should expect a 13 y/o to full understand reasonable consequences for actions like this. Teens are dumb, but they know right from wrong. That's why she was sneaking the dude in. She knew she was wrong.

Now I say reasonable consequences because the infraction shouldn't have resulted in a death. We can't fault a 13 y/o for not anticipating that her mother might execute the dude.

At the end of the day, it's fair to point out that the girls actions led to the tragedy. It's not fair to put that tragedy on her as if it was a foreseeable consequence of her actions.

I don't know what's going on in here anymore. Skimming through posts, I see dudes talking about they were still sneaking/sneaking chicks into homes at 20 and 21. Really? It's getting weird in here. lol
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Yes, we should expect a 13 y/o to full understand reasonable consequences for actions like this. Teens are dumb, but they know right from wrong. That's why she was sneaking the dude in. She knew she was wrong.

Now I say reasonable consequences because the infraction shouldn't have resulted in a death. We can't fault a 13 y/o for not anticipating that her mother might execute the dude.

At the end of the day, it's fair to point out that the girls actions led to the tragedy. It's not fair to put that tragedy on her as if it was a foreseeable consequence of her actions.

I don't know what's going on in here anymore. Skimming through posts, I see dudes talking about they were still sneaking/sneaking chicks into homes at 20 and 21. Really? It's getting weird in here. lol
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Exactly. Thats why I said they can get it and understand bad things can happen if they do bad things...I just dont expect them to fully grasp the severity of how far those consequences can go. Did she think she'd get in trouble if caught? Probably. Did she think there's be a dead body and her mom catching a possible murder rap...not likely.

As for the sneaking people in thing...yeah thats weird to be 19/20 still having to sneak around. But I assume it's to try and relate to the aspect of sneaking somebody in. And even then at 19 you're far more aware of the severity of consequences than at 13. So it still don't add up to throw that in
 
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