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is black wealth possible?

Joshie Kahn said:
I understand living in the system until it's gone, I'm disputing that. What I'm saying is, the system relies on an underclass to perpetuate. Because of that, it's unlikely we will ever see large amounts of generational wealth. It's not designed to do that for us.
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True, but it's not impossible to beat it either and by us are you referring to just blacks or poor overall.

Further that system gorges on ppl's need to spend money and living for short term pleasure on the idea of I've earned this and want it, on top of supply and demand. Bring something positive out that can't be turned and it won't matter the class for they will come, that would be the only way to not affect your sensibilities
 
Hellczar said:
I think he saying the way it is now it’s always going to be an underclass capitalism needs an underclass. He not saying blacks can’t get out of it but is a wealthy top going to increase the value of life for the bottom? If not should we celebrate it?
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i get what hes saying but at the same time.....why we gotta be at the bottom?

you do need consumers....but you need businesses too to satisfy those consumers.

so black people dont know what black people want?
or eat?

why must we go to white people for everything?

they are reaping the rewards of building businesses of the backs of slaves for free then they turn around and sell us the shit we produced?

shit dont irritate you?
 
Hellczar said:
I think he saying the way it is now it’s always going to be an underclass capitalism needs an underclass. He not saying blacks can’t get out of it but is a wealthy top going to increase the value of life for the bottom? If not should we celebrate it?
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It's the American way, the bottom or "losers" make the champions shine... sports, business, school etc... if you want to change things it'll either be at the bottom generally violently or up top benevolently
 
DOS_patos said:
i get what hes saying but at the same time.....why we gotta be at the bottom?

you do need consumers....but you need businesses too to satisfy those consumers.

so black people dont know what black people want?
or eat?

why must we go to white people for everything?

they are reaping the rewards of building businesses of the backs of slaves for free then they turn around and sell us the shit we produced?

shit dont irritate you?
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I’m not saying WE at the bottom I’m saying there is a bottom and the bottom shouldn’t be treated less than because of a rigged system. Also I’m saying the current system is wack and logically a majority of any group will not be wealthy because wealth is rare and hoarded. See you like business you like the American dream you view poverty as a lack of knowledge and not a product of a terrible system. I’m not saying we all need to be socialist.

What you hear is “ I’m ok with being poor and lazy cuz that’s all’s we ever gon be” and this miscommunication happens in every convo. You ever think people just don’t want to play the game no more?
 
Hellczar said:
I’m not saying WE at the bottom I’m saying there is a bottom and the bottom shouldn’t be treated less than because of a rigged system. Also I’m saying the current system is wack and logically a majority of any group will not be wealthy because wealth is rare and hoarded. See you like business you like the American dream you view poverty as a lack of knowledge and not a product of a terrible system. I’m not saying we all need to be socialist.

What you hear is “ I’m ok with being poor and lazy cuz that’s all’s we ever gon be” and this miscommunication happens in every convo. You ever think people just don’t want to play the game no more?
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you are right......and lets address this.
this is not directed to you...but

i dont have a problem with someone being ok where they are. but when i run into more people willing to chill and allow shit to happen to them....i get angry.
i get angry because we dont have to be pushed around.

i see business not as the american dream but freedom from being controlled and thrown scraps.

so when i hear ...."we goodin the hood"..ok but dont say i owe you anything because i worked for mine and gentrification is pushing you out.

i hate seeing my old hood having white people walking down the street where just a few years ago niggas was ready to shoot me over wrong identity.
but brad is cool? how?

i very poverty as just that....but it should be for those who need to be there not choose to be there.

no way in hell any able body man should not want to work to better himself or care for his family. but this is more for later.
but this system is because we are not fighting the right fight and its not enough of us fighting the right fight,.

its plenty of dudes doing the right thing but they get drowned out by fuckery.
i just had this convo in charlotte yet again(i swear i might kill this dude there one day)
im told drug dealers were not educated to buy property and invest their money but if i say these niggas are stupid or not educated ....im wrong?

so this system you are talking about has control because we dont have enough men controlling our community.

so what you hear is me saying in so many words " stop being a bitch and be a man and fix your hood for yourself and your family and future generations. take hold of your life. you are a black man for christ sake"

i hope that clears up some things.

if not ....lets get it.
 
Joshie Kahn said:
Both if we ever really wanna see things change
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Only way change gonna come is either from the top or the bottom, the French Revolution was an example of the bottom and most rich and wealthy ppl will never allow themselves to be put in that situation again... at least in the West. That Revolution scared those with wealth and this system is designed to prevent that, on top of allowing some from the bottom to win in order to keep the idea of the American Dream alive... because I will definitely say when some of those from the bottom make it, they fight the hardest to protect the system
 
DOS_patos said:
you are right......and lets address this.
this is not directed to you...but

i dont have a problem with someone being ok where they are. but when i run into more people willing to chill and allow shit to happen to them....i get angry.
i get angry because we dont have to be pushed around.

i see business not as the american dream but freedom from being controlled and thrown scraps.

so when i hear ...."we goodin the hood"..ok but dont say i owe you anything because i worked for mine and gentrification is pushing you out.

i hate seeing my old hood having white people walking down the street where just a few years ago niggas was ready to shoot me over wrong identity.
but brad is cool? how?

i very poverty as just that....but it should be for those who need to be there not choose to be there.

no way in hell any able body man should not want to work to better himself or care for his family. but this is more for later.
but this system is because we are not fighting the right fight and its not enough of us fighting the right fight,.

its plenty of dudes doing the right thing but they get drowned out by fuckery.
i just had this convo in charlotte yet again(i swear i might kill this dude there one day)
im told drug dealers were not educated to buy property and invest their money but if i say these niggas are stupid or not educated ....im wrong?

so this system you are talking about has control because we dont have enough men controlling our community.

so what you hear is me saying in so many words " stop being a bitch and be a man and fix your hood for yourself and your family and future generations. take hold of your life. you are a black man for christ sake"

i hope that clears up some things.

if not ....lets get it.
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How is business free from control businesses still got rules still fail some prosper. And I’m sorry that niggas don’t want to work 80 hours a week to keep a roof over their heads when nobody else has to do that to get the basics. Black folks work until death all the time. Why the only way I can get equality is to work to death?

I’m not against making better choices for the long run but damn when do black peoples get to chill and live like others without doing twice as more?
 
Hellczar said:
How is business free from control businesses still got rules still fail some prosper. And I’m sorry that niggas don’t want to work 80 hours a week to keep a roof over their heads when nobody else has to do that to get the basics. Black folks work until death all the time. Why the only way I can get equality is to work to death?

I’m not against making better choices for the long run but damn when do black peoples get to chill and live like others without doing twice as more?
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That's where you're missing out on the key to wealth sometimes it ain't meant for you who is working all hard like that to live in wealth that what you're doing is an alley-oop to the Young Gun your child/ren to bang it home and live better than you did
 
Focal Point said:
That's where you're missing out on the key to wealth sometimes it ain't meant for you who is working all hard like that to live in wealth that what you're doing is an alley-oop to the Young Gun your child/ren to bang it home and live better than you did
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And that admirable and great. But it’s a line somewhere tho. Building for the family ain’t never just income
 
We need financial literacy before the topic of wealth can even be addressed. Wealth will come with strategy, discipline, and dedication to the primary goal.

But how can we discuss black wealth before talking about our current spending habits, the unemployment rates, our mental and physical health in general?

We're trying to create generational wealth from scratch in a country that profits from our poverty. While it's not impossible, it damn near is for the majority of our people.

That's why we can name all of our billionaires on one hand.
 
Hellczar said:
How is business free from control businesses still got rules still fail some prosper. And I’m sorry that niggas don’t want to work 80 hours a week to keep a roof over their heads when nobody else has to do that to get the basics. Black folks work until death all the time. Why the only way I can get equality is to work to death?

I’m not against making better choices for the long run but damn when do black peoples get to chill and live like others without doing twice as more?
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im glad you said this......businesses fail and some prosper...true.
but what makes you think you cant run a business?
you got a job dont you?
do you need your hand held all day every day?

no one has magical business skills.
alot of people learn as they go.

and yes ...some people work 80 hours.....but some dont.
i work a total of two weeks every two months and make the same as when i was at my peak.
a bodega owner may work 60-80 hrs a week.

why only choose the longer and harder worker?

the bodega owner can easily hire someone and take a pay cut and have his freedom to spend with his family.

you grow and learn to stream line.
whos to say another person cant do that aswell?

alot of people can do wonders with all that free time, but why only see the negative in it?

your look at it is already negative. you are not seeing the benefit.
just because another man failed dont mean you will. that was his life.
but that also doesnt mean the next man will not make 3 times as you doing the same thing.

thats life.

and i heard many stories of people working too damn hard....but they may have the wrong idea or trying to force something thats not there.
if a corner is covering you in football and you just cant get by him...either you get help or change you lane. its the same in business.

and when do black people get to chill and live like others?
hmmmmm
please elaborate.
again this is not aimed at you...but if niggas can put in illegal work......they can work. they dont get to chill when the baton is passed to them.
im not talking about those already doing for the community...


i think you may just be looking at this in a way thats not clear.
but i want as many black people as possible to have the same type freedom i have,.
work because you want to , not because you have to
 
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