Interesting take on 21 savage and immigration.
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GNS
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Black_Samson
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DOS_patos
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GNS
OG
Because the thread is about so called black immigrants taking from the black community. I would think someone with a immigrant wife would not go so far as to suggest everyone not from here is out to get em. Especially from messicans that are always accused of "taking our jobs"
Plus didn't dr umar said if u marry a woman outside your race u don't care about the black community? You prolly outchea taking from the african american community yourself, outsider.
But I ain't know she was born here and served in the military...she must be one of the good ones that trump likes. My bad.
U gotta stop doing this.
You'll type something coherent and in the next instance go write back to batshit land.
DOS_patos
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nigga you won.......fohBecause the thread is about so called black immigrants taking from the black community. I would think someone with a immigrant wife would not go so far as to suggest everyone not from here is out to get em. Especially from messicans that are always accused of "taking our jobs"
Plus didn't dr umar said if u marry a woman outside your race u don't care about the black community? You prolly outchea taking from the african american community yourself, outsider.
But I ain't know she was born here and served in the military...she must be one of the good ones that trump likes. My bad.
U gotta stop doing this.
You'll type something coherent and in the next instance go write back to batshit land.
ole bully ass nigga
Dwayne
Not Like Us
Dude came from a different country and was not raised in the culture and straight raped it.
Here since he was 14 came on the scene in 2016 officially and was rapping before that.
Dad is a doctor
Is he really part of the culture? Why hide where you from? Got millions but don't have paperwork together? Wanna to be part of that life and didn't have to?
Rappers tell tales in their rhymes all the time but why be a fraud about yourself and where you from
Here since he was 14 came on the scene in 2016 officially and was rapping before that.
Dad is a doctor
Is he really part of the culture? Why hide where you from? Got millions but don't have paperwork together? Wanna to be part of that life and didn't have to?
Rappers tell tales in their rhymes all the time but why be a fraud about yourself and where you from
GNS
OG
I am not trying to win shit, blood.
I really do look at all black people as fam but niggaz from everywhere try to look at each other as different or act like someone is more special because of where they were born.
I just don't get that shit.
Don't none of us have this shit good
BDP™️
Acknowledge Moi
How can you say he was not "raised in the culture" when bruh spent his formative years in Zone 6
He is just as much an ATLien as Ludacris...who didnt move there until his early teens.
From what I have read...he came in 2005 so he was 12 or 13 when he got here.
and fuck if his dad is a doctor or not....he has been confirmed and certified as "living that life"
I know a lotta real killers and trappers that come from good ass homes...at the end of the day its a choice....
AND on top of that
he is actively giving back to the community he came from in ATL...so how is he "raping the culture"
Thor you my nigga but your whole post is trash buddy
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https://www.ajc.com/blog/buzz/savag...incorrect-information/R1iRuHS6kuBJb4GRZxjD3I/
In a statement released Tuesday evening, lawyers for rapper 21 Savage say U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement has released “incorrect information” about their client, specifically regarding whether he has a criminal history.
Federal authorities say the artist, officially known as Sha Yaa Bin Abraham-Joseph, was convicted of felony drug charges in 2014 in Fulton County. His lawyers say he “has no criminal convictions.”
Asked for clarification, Fulton County cited the section of the Georgia code that deals with restricting access to first-offender records: “In accordance with Georgia Code Section 42-8-62.1 this case was sealed and we cannot confirm or deny any information about the disposition of the matter.”
“We’re not going to provide anything else on this,” ICE spokesman Bryan Cox said in response to the lawyers’ statement.
Here is the entire statement:
“There has been a great deal of misreporting in the case of She’yaa Bin Abraham-Joseph, known professionally as 21 Savage. Conjecture and misinformation help no one make good decisions and lead to false conclusions. Here are the facts:
Mr. Abraham-Joseph was born in the United Kingdom. Mr. Abraham-Joseph arrived legally in the United States at the age of 7 under an H-4 visa. (This type of visa is issued to spouses and children 21 and younger of people who hold H 1-B visas, which allow foreign workers in specialty occupations).
He remained in the United States until June 2005, when he departed for approximately one month to visit the United Kingdom. He returned to the United States under a valid H-4 visa on July 22, 2005. Mr. Abraham-Joseph has been continuously present in the United States for almost 20 years, except for a brief visit abroad. Unfortunately, Mr. Abraham-Joseph lost his legal status through no fault of his own.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph, like almost 2 million of his immigrant child peers, was left without immigration status as a young child with no way to fix his immigration status. These ‘Dreamers’ come from all walks life and every ethnicity.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph has no criminal convictions or charges under state or federal law and is free to seek relief from removal in immigration court. ICE provided incorrect information to the press when it claimed he had a criminal conviction.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph has three U.S. citizen children, a lawful permanent mother and four siblings that are either U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents. He has exceptionally strong ties in the United States, having lived here since he was in the first grade. Because of his length of residence in the United States and his immediate relatives, Mr. Abraham-Joseph is eligible to see cancelation of removal from an immigration judge.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph was placed into deportation proceedings AFTER his arrest, he was not in deportation proceedings prior to this detention by ICE. (The Department of Homeland Security) has known his address since the filing of a U visa application in 2017. He has never hidden from DHS or any of its agencies.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph is not subject to mandatory detention under federal law and is eligible for bond. By statute, bond should be granted by ICE when there is no flight risk or a danger to the community. ICE has the ability to set a bond and conditions of release on cases exactly like this. ICE routinely grants bond to individuals in Mr. Abraham-Joseph’s circumstances, specifically individuals who have overstayed a prior valid visa and have relief from deportation under federal law.
There is no chance that Mr. Abraham-Joseph is a flight risk. Mr. Abraham-Joseph is not a ‘danger’ to the community as his acts of philanthropy and goodwill, as well as his music, continue to improve the communities from which he comes.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph has a pending U visa application with (U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services). This U visa was filed as a result of being the victim of a deadly shooting in 2013. That visa was filed in 2017 and remains pending. When granted, the U visa will afford him lawful status in the United States. Generally, ICE has recognized a pending facially valid U visa as a basis to delay removal proceedings and release individuals from custody. (This type of visa is set aside for victims of certain crimes who have suffered mental or physical abuse and are helpful to law enforcement or government officials in the investigation or prosecution of criminal activity).
There continues to be no legal reason to detain Mr. Abraham-Joseph for a civil law violation that occurred when he was a minor, especially when people in his exact situation are routinely released by ICE.
Many have speculated as to possible ulterior motives for his arrest and detention, including that he released music five days prior to his arrest by ICE, which included new lyrics condemning the behavior of immigration officials for their detention of children at the border.
We are unaware of why ICE apparently targeted Mr. Abraham-Joseph but we will do everything possible to legally seek his release and pursue his available relief in immigration court.”
Note: text in the parenthetical explanations of the different types of visas comes from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, an agency of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and was not part of the legal statement.
Federal authorities say the artist, officially known as Sha Yaa Bin Abraham-Joseph, was convicted of felony drug charges in 2014 in Fulton County. His lawyers say he “has no criminal convictions.”
Asked for clarification, Fulton County cited the section of the Georgia code that deals with restricting access to first-offender records: “In accordance with Georgia Code Section 42-8-62.1 this case was sealed and we cannot confirm or deny any information about the disposition of the matter.”
“We’re not going to provide anything else on this,” ICE spokesman Bryan Cox said in response to the lawyers’ statement.
Here is the entire statement:
“There has been a great deal of misreporting in the case of She’yaa Bin Abraham-Joseph, known professionally as 21 Savage. Conjecture and misinformation help no one make good decisions and lead to false conclusions. Here are the facts:
Mr. Abraham-Joseph was born in the United Kingdom. Mr. Abraham-Joseph arrived legally in the United States at the age of 7 under an H-4 visa. (This type of visa is issued to spouses and children 21 and younger of people who hold H 1-B visas, which allow foreign workers in specialty occupations).
He remained in the United States until June 2005, when he departed for approximately one month to visit the United Kingdom. He returned to the United States under a valid H-4 visa on July 22, 2005. Mr. Abraham-Joseph has been continuously present in the United States for almost 20 years, except for a brief visit abroad. Unfortunately, Mr. Abraham-Joseph lost his legal status through no fault of his own.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph, like almost 2 million of his immigrant child peers, was left without immigration status as a young child with no way to fix his immigration status. These ‘Dreamers’ come from all walks life and every ethnicity.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph has no criminal convictions or charges under state or federal law and is free to seek relief from removal in immigration court. ICE provided incorrect information to the press when it claimed he had a criminal conviction.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph has three U.S. citizen children, a lawful permanent mother and four siblings that are either U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents. He has exceptionally strong ties in the United States, having lived here since he was in the first grade. Because of his length of residence in the United States and his immediate relatives, Mr. Abraham-Joseph is eligible to see cancelation of removal from an immigration judge.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph was placed into deportation proceedings AFTER his arrest, he was not in deportation proceedings prior to this detention by ICE. (The Department of Homeland Security) has known his address since the filing of a U visa application in 2017. He has never hidden from DHS or any of its agencies.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph is not subject to mandatory detention under federal law and is eligible for bond. By statute, bond should be granted by ICE when there is no flight risk or a danger to the community. ICE has the ability to set a bond and conditions of release on cases exactly like this. ICE routinely grants bond to individuals in Mr. Abraham-Joseph’s circumstances, specifically individuals who have overstayed a prior valid visa and have relief from deportation under federal law.
There is no chance that Mr. Abraham-Joseph is a flight risk. Mr. Abraham-Joseph is not a ‘danger’ to the community as his acts of philanthropy and goodwill, as well as his music, continue to improve the communities from which he comes.
Mr. Abraham-Joseph has a pending U visa application with (U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services). This U visa was filed as a result of being the victim of a deadly shooting in 2013. That visa was filed in 2017 and remains pending. When granted, the U visa will afford him lawful status in the United States. Generally, ICE has recognized a pending facially valid U visa as a basis to delay removal proceedings and release individuals from custody. (This type of visa is set aside for victims of certain crimes who have suffered mental or physical abuse and are helpful to law enforcement or government officials in the investigation or prosecution of criminal activity).
There continues to be no legal reason to detain Mr. Abraham-Joseph for a civil law violation that occurred when he was a minor, especially when people in his exact situation are routinely released by ICE.
Many have speculated as to possible ulterior motives for his arrest and detention, including that he released music five days prior to his arrest by ICE, which included new lyrics condemning the behavior of immigration officials for their detention of children at the border.
We are unaware of why ICE apparently targeted Mr. Abraham-Joseph but we will do everything possible to legally seek his release and pursue his available relief in immigration court.”
Note: text in the parenthetical explanations of the different types of visas comes from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, an agency of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and was not part of the legal statement.
Dwayne
Not Like Us
I was just throwing that out there because everybody wanna talk about the culture and shit and who can be part of it and who can’t like with the JLo shit
But I stand about standing by who you really are. As I get older, dudes that don’t wanna be themselves and not worry about others is annoying and it has a bad outcome for “us”
Black_Samson
OG
Because the thread is about so called black immigrants taking from the black community. I would think someone with a immigrant wife would not go so far as to suggest everyone not from here is out to get em. Especially from messicans that are always accused of "taking our jobs"
Plus didn't dr umar said if u marry a woman outside your race u don't care about the black community? You prolly outchea taking from the african american community yourself, outsider.
But I ain't know she was born here and served in the military...she must be one of the good ones that trump likes. My bad.
U gotta stop doing this.
You'll type something coherent and in the next instance go write back to batshit land.
How about you direct all that bullshit at that kids parents.
I aint the one that set him up to fail, it was his neglectful ass parents that did.
Outsider?
I aint the one telling your sons and daughters, nieces and nephews that its okay to force feed females the Plan B pill... Nope the nigga you defending did.
I aint the one that tells your sons and daughters, nieces and nephews to hate your fellow negro and to have "Every nigga 'round me like to kill niggas"
But nah, lets applaud him for installing some community water faucets... Even tho his ass down the road poisoning the tap.
Fuck outta here.
You can be think Nino Brown giving out turkeys was sweet and thoughtful, I on the other hamd see thru that bullshit.
GNS
OG
You keep focusing on 21 but in the thread I've more been talking about the op saying black immigrants are raping black american resources and aren't really for the good of everybody.
That's kinda where we're at just to catch u up.
As far as 21 it seems he rap about the most ignorant shit but is actually giving back to the community. If u have a problem with that then u have a problem with jay z, ice cube, david banner etc..
*shrugs*
Dwayne
Not Like Us
Black_Samson
OG
GNS
OG
Idk y u think I'm mad
I'm just chillin on the job working hard to hold u african americans back and adding my 2¢ from an immigrants perspective.