ICE Protest/Riot Thread

This is what I posted some pages back: When Obama did this shit, not a peep from the Democrats. The ACLU condemned him constantly for his immigration practices.




"... On a December morning, Border Patrol agents confronted a 15-year-old high school student named Jahveel Ocampo at a rest stop in California while she and her friends were on their way to the mountains to see the winter’s first snow. Jahveel was a young child when she came to the United States from Mexico with her parents, and she grew up undocumented in southern California. She was a mother to a 2-year-old child, who was a U.S. citizen.

An agent in a blue jacket asked whether Jahveel was an “illegal.” He handcuffed her and drove her to a Border Patrol station in the border town of Campo. There, he slapped her twice on the buttocks and ordered her into a cell. He and another male agent told her to sign an “order of voluntary departure,” a deportation order. She refused.

Then the threats began. One agent said, in Spanish, according to the complaint she filed later, “Right now, we close the door, we rape you and f*** you. If you cooperate with us, we can deport you to Mexico. Otherwise, we will take you to jail and deport your entire family.” They told her that her child would end up in foster care.

Terrified and alone, Jahveel signed.


If you assumed this abuse happened during the Trump administration, think again. Jahveel was threatened in 2009 by President Obama’s Border Patrol, and her treatment was not an isolated incident. Her case is part of a pattern of physical, sexual, and emotional abuse by Customs and Border Protection officials against child immigrants that existed long before President Trump emboldened the agency by unleashing its officers to enforce his draconian immigration policies.

We have received more than 30,000 pages of internal government documents detailing this abuse between 2009 and 2014 throughout the southern border region. These records, obtained through an ACLU Freedom of Information Act request and subsequent litigation, offer a glimpse into an immigration enforcement system that had been plagued by brutality and lawlessness long before Trump was elected..."
Those responsible should be held responsible, period, full stop. We have that opportunity now with what Trump is doing while he’s in office too.

And when another democratic administration comes in, call them out and hold them accountable for bullshit too.

Shit should not be dependent on who’s in power, but it does need to be timely.
 
Those responsible should be held responsible, period, full stop. We have that opportunity now with what Trump is doing while he’s in office too.

And when another democratic administration comes in, call them out and hold them accountable for bullshit too.

Shit should not be dependent on who’s in power, but it does need to be timely.

It happened under Biden too, which is odd 'cause he also opened the floodgates for illegals.
 
I don’t think he necessarily passed anything, but he damn sure wasn’t trying to enforce anything either.

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The weirdest thing about that, tho, is that the Biden admin also deported more people than Trump in his first term.
 
And without the bullshit that’s happening now.

Nah, they were doing the door-to-door shit under Biden too. Warrantless entries, lying about who they were. The big difference between then and now is that Biden was smart enough not to brag about the shit, unlike Cheeto In Chief. Trump's biggest problem is his fuckin mouf. If he kept it closed like Obama and Biden did, we prolly wouldn't even know about what's happening.

Probably...

The media also seems really keen on reporting everything Trump does that's fucked up, so maybe we would know in some capacity. There were definitely ICE protests/demonstrations during Biden, but little to no coverage of them.

 
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The weirdest thing about that, tho, is that the Biden admin also deported more people than Trump in his first term.

So either the floodgates were opened or he was deporting more. This is one of those times it's weird to make a 2 things can be true argument convincing. Like I get it...but it's just a hard argument that at the same time they were deporting more than ever, the floodgates were just open to everyone
 
Nah, they were doing the door-to-door shit under Biden too. Warrantless entries, lying about who they were. The big difference between then and now is that Biden was smart enough not to brag about the shit, unlike Cheeto In Chief. Trump's biggest problem is his fuckin mouf. If he kept it closed like Obama and Biden did, we prolly wouldn't even know about what's happening.

Probably...

The media also seems really keen on reporting everything Trump does that's fucked up, so maybe we would know in some capacity. There were definitely ICE protests/demonstrations during Biden, but little to no coverage of them.

I think what’s changed under Trump is the methods and his open support of the bullshit. I don’t know for sure, but I don’t believe Biden or Obama had ICE shopping out of Uhauls at Home Depots and had ICE flash banging and gassing protestors.

Also Biden and Obama must have distanced themselves from the bullshit.

That said, I’m not going to pretend like the media doesn’t have a left bias. However, I think if it was as bad as it is now, Fox News would have been all over it even if they hate immigrants. They take any chance to criticize Democrat presidents.
 
I think what’s changed under Trump is the methods and his open support of the bullshit. I don’t know for sure, but I don’t believe Biden or Obama had ICE shopping out of Uhauls at Home Depots and had ICE flash banging and gassing protestors.

Also Biden and Obama must have distanced themselves from the bullshit.

That said, I’m not going to pretend like the media doesn’t have a left bias. However, I think if it was as bad as it is now, Fox News would have been all over it even if they hate immigrants. They take any chance to criticize Democrat presidents.

Fox News once said Putin was more presidential than Obama because Putin didn't wear a helmet while riding a horse but Obama wore one while riding a bike. If they could've they would've for sure.
 
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