Does Shawn from Boys 2 Men have a point?

[Inori]

I was trying to put my middle daughter on to Sade like "This is what singing really sounds like" 'cause her only real reference is Beyonce.





^^^ Beyonce could never.

:tuh:

 

[a.mann]

Was there r&b thugs before Jodeci

“Bad boys” not thugs
Jodeci imagine was not “traditional” R&B clean cut, but their music was R&B with a lil hip hop flavor

They were not trying to be rappers and the lyrics to their songs reflected this

 

[DOS_patos]

Is rayj an r&b thug

til my babies booooorn

 

[a.mann]

Is rayj an r&b thug

til my babies booooorn

Ray J is Brandy’s little brother

 

[Black_Samson]

What Simon Cowell gotta do with this?

He has destroyed music as a whole.

watch the Black Mirror episode 50million Merits and my stance will make sense.

 

[Duwop]

Not when rnb niggaz was acting like thugs at the verzuz last week

 

[Duwop]

There's plenty of r&b acts that still make traditional r&b music and don't rely on half singing half rapping or that whisper voice shit. If you're talking about what's pushed as mainstream then yeah that's way different than what most of us grew up knowing as r&b but the real singers are still very much out there.

I also have a personal theory that as Black folks moved away from church and singing in the choir that's also led to a lack of people being able to truly hone their voice because ain't no training ground like being in a choir for a true singer.

Right... Just went to see Eric Roberson Valentine's day weekend. If you a fan of the genre you'll find the music....

We're not in the era where radio runs things any more.... You support the sound you like

 

[T. Sanford]

Right... Just went to see Eric Roberson Valentine's day weekend. If you a fan of the genre you'll find the music....

We're not in the era where radio runs things any more.... You support the sound you like

I always joke with my brother-in-law name because he shares the same name as him, but yeah, it's still good traditional R&B music out here. The fans just have to go find it since it's no longer mainstream anymore

 

[Black_Samson]

Right... Just went to see Eric Roberson Valentine's day weekend. If you a fan of the genre you'll find the music....

We're not in the era where radio runs things any more.... You support the sound you like

Yeah… I remember talking about this some years ago only for y’all to tell me the same thing.

that good r&b had gone toSoundCloud and blogspot

 

[BlackRain]

This thread is interesting as well considering some idiot went viral the other day trying to claim Usher is a studio singer who would have trouble with August would give him trouble in a Verzuz right before his Tiny Desk dropped today where he sang his ass off

 

[Duwop]

This is, while radio still exists.... Streaming is now king. You can literally make a star off of word of mouth. Once shit go viral.... It's a wrap.

Let 4 strong singing brothers make some hot tik toks...

This whole argument is dead

 

[PhenomTheMac]

Didn't silk sonic just win record of the year? Doesn't that qualify as an r&b record?

 

[T. Sanford]

Didn't silk sonic just win record of the year? Doesn't that qualify as an r&b record?

They are dope. They killed the Earth Wind and Fire sample

 

[MorganFreemanKing]

It lost it's identity the same reason everything else does. It became a business instead of an art. And with any business comes a formula.

 

[BlackRain]

Tank said basically this same thing on his Drink Champs interview and Chris Brown said this on his and his Million Dollars Worth of Game. Said the way the industry has marketed hip hop and the popularity of it has eliminated the emotionally vulnerable male who sings love songs. Even the "love songs" in hip hop are rarely about happy relationships and more about "we put each other through drama but I bought you an expensive purse so we good now"

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

Lol @ Jodeci being thugs with songs like Cry For You

What else is there to do?
Idk but I'll cry

:tuh:

 

[Mister B. M. Ed.]

R&B died when all the groups phased out around 2000 or so.

All these solo acts was Thug N B after that.

 

[Supahn]

Even the "love songs" in hip hop are rarely about happy relationships and more about "we put each other through drama but I bought you an expensive purse so we good now"

That Jacquees song "you" is this in a nutshell

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I think there are a lot of reasons.

I think the blending of Hip Hop and autotune making it so that people didn't work as hard on the craft are contributors too.

 

[Old Man Cain]

^^^ This is the genesis of that shit.

I would say Jodeci started the thug personna in RnB and DRS caught on to the trend