Aite man where did we go wrong?

konceptjones said:
Unless you were getting crazy overtime, no you couldn't. Full stop.

In the 60's and 70's, minimum wage was only a hair more than the poverty line for a family of three. Add just one more kid and now you're fully in poverty. College tuition also doubled in the 70's so there goes that "cheap as fuck" education. The media price of a home damned near tripled from 1970 to the end of 1979.

The shit ain't even close to what you think it was.
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This is why I say that fantasy world of 1 income carrying the family wasn't the wonderful reality people today speak on it as.
 
BlackRain said:
This is why I say that fantasy world of 1 income carrying the family wasn't the wonderful reality people today speak on it as.
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Nah, it was possible, just not under the circumstances @Duwop laid out.

If you had a plant job, worked in mining, on the railroad, or had a skill like plumbing, electrician, or a boilermaker and was in a union, you could very well take care of a family on a single salary. In 1975 the minimum wage was $1.80/hr. The average automotive assembly line worker was making $5 and change an hour back then and over $10/hr by the end of the decade. That's why those were all considered "good jobs"; 'cause unless you had a habit fucking up your life (gambling, drugs, alcoholic), you could live pretty well and take care of a family off of that one job.
 
Racism and bad decisions

Government setting it up to force fathers out the house and selfishness

Big business controlling everything and the lack of accountability on ourselves.

Trades being taken out of communities and I remember growing up and you being smart you was made fun of

Destructive behavior, being celebrated in media/music and giving in to all of our sexual desires

bought politicians and having more knowledge about music than your local government

I listed things that was not in our control and things that were.

Some of these can be applied to all races but we fell for it the hardest.
 
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konceptjones said:
Nah, it was possible, just not under the circumstances @Duwop laid out.

If you had a plant job, worked in mining, on the railroad, or had a skill like plumbing, electrician, or a boilermaker and was in a union, you could very well take care of a family on a single salary. In 1975 the minimum wage was $1.80/hr. The average automotive assembly line worker was making $5 and change an hour back then and over $10/hr by the end of the decade. That's why those were all considered "good jobs"; 'cause unless you had a habit fucking up your life (gambling, drugs, alcoholic), you could live pretty well and take care of a family off of that one job.
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Facts. Thats why working at the (mill) was something black men went for. There was a middle class per say.

Now going back to what Du or how folks like to say they wanna live with 1 income, everybody else who had to live under or on the poverty line had to deal with (hand me down clothes)

Sleeping 3 to a bed, sometimes 4 to a bed, don't let that water out, your brother or sister has to use that water to bath. Summer vacation was going down south or up north. Ain't no passports etc. Your grandmother was lucky to get outta the state

New clothes? You better get some thread to have your wife patch up them shirts or pants.

Folks really don't dive deep in how life was back in the day for them old folks.

TVs. You'll be lucky to have 1 working TV in the house, AC? Better use them fans or go outside and play until it gets dark because it's more cooler outside than it is inside during the day.

1 car. Ain't no 2 car garage.
 
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Duwop said:
You can't single out women going to work as the DEATH of the black community.

The economy of this country was never sustainable.. Housing and college was cheap as fuck back in the day. You could have a livable wage for an entire family doing a job that's barely minimum wage back in the day.

The economy has been fucked up for a while. Capitalism has poisoned the country for a while.

Women having to work isn't the cause , it's a consequence of a broken system that doubles down on it's mistakes.

Profit is more important than progress. That's why we've been fucked.
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Everybody did not attend college back then. Black folks.
Maybe 1 outta the family, back then there was at times 8 kids or more. Every child wasn't going to school so that college angle is obsolete for black ppl becuase every child didn't go to college.

Black women always worked, they were so call housekeepers for white women. But most took care of the home. Also, there weren't many positions for black women. Clerical and those spots went to white women 1st. You as a black woman had to know a white woman to get those jobs and if you did get those jobs, the whites on that job made it so that you wanted to quit. You wasn't paid much as the white woman who was doing the same thing.

White women told black women that their men was holding them back, when in reality black men had no power to do such a thing. White women were mad at white men.

Feminism set us back. Divided the home. Took the black man out of the home.
 
priorities.

And I can honestly say’s the Drake vs Kendrick fiasco showed and continue to show our people priorities are no where they need to be.

They can tell you everything about the beef but couldn’t tell you the name of the mayor of the city they live in.
 
Duwop said:
I'm smart enough to know I don't have all the answers.. But I know the wrong one when I hear it.

Y'all gotta stop taking such a deep dive into topics off a hot take.
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Bruh social media in the black community blames feminism for everything. And even after the first waves of feminism up till recently it’s not like black women hated us.

I think when dudes see angry black woke they blame feminism. But if a woman is under 35 she grew up to music say but he’s ain’t shit. RNB used to be the venue where you heard love songs but that’s not what’s being pushed anymore. I think that did a lot to divide recent generations.
 
Dwayne said:
priorities.

And I can honestly say’s the Drake vs Kendrick fiasco showed and continue to show our people priorities are no where they need to be.

They can tell you everything about the beef but couldn’t tell you the name of the mayor of the city they live in.
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My mayor does not do shit. I think big city mayors actually do shit but idk what mayors do in cities less than 500,000
 
Do yall think the lack of people really believing in a god has something to do with it

A lot of people would say they believe but they really don’t
 
The church was a big part of that glamorized past. Church was a huge deal in the black community.. Much more so than now.
 
Duwop said:
The church was a big part of that glamorized past. Church was a huge deal in the black community.. Much more so than now.
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Do you think that played a role in the togetherness back then?
 
I don't got time to think about what went wrong when we already know.
It's all the above yo.
There is no solution. It has to happen
Stay to yaself and take care of ya own is all you can do really.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
No you gotta stop acting like it's not. There is no benefit to forcing most women into the workplace. Only people who benefit form that is corporate America. Meanwhile women who brought life to our communities are taken away, and people wonder "what happened".

The feminism message went from equal opportunities which I think all want, to forced roles which goes against nature. Women don't really have a choice now
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You might have a point if we didn't live in a society where it's increasingly difficult for families to survive off one income. Also, black women have traditionally always worked in this country, so this doesn't really apply to us.
 
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