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Alle’Oxin’Free said:
Because it speaks to a bigger problem in the NBA that I saw start to manifest itself with Lebrons Cavs before Kyrie and Lebrons heat.

A lot of todays NBA is one or two star players and other guys that they relegate to role players that actually are more than that. They make em 3 and D players. The star players are allowed to take as many shots as they can to get into rhythm while the rest of the players have to “find their spots within the offense”..

So these actually pretty good players end up getting like 5 to 10 touches. Not even shots, 5 to 10 touches in a quarter. And only after the star player is smothered by the D. And with maybe 5 seconds in the shot clock and have to find their rhythm in that moment and hit the jumper.

The average fan doesn’t watch a whole game and only sees highlights in which talking heads call them trash cause they only show highlights in which they did trash shit and say the star player has no help.

Those human ball players have their confidence shaken so when they continue to get the ball the pressure to perform with no rhythm is even more. And it causes them to perform worse.

Further exasperating the narrative that they suck and the star has no help. Pushing the star to do hero shots like this even more instead of helping his guys build a rhythm in their game.

Meanwhile it’s proven that when those same guys get traded away to a team where the talent is presumed equally across the team and that team plays team ball. Those players ball out.
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I don't really think what you're saying is new. Players like Jordan, AI, and Kobe were criticized in the same exact way. Hell, Kobe was the king of throwing up "hero shots."

To be honest, I don't even know if I would consider that a hero shot in today's game. Dudes take long 3s all the time. Everybody on his team was covered, and he was wide open. It would have been a stupid shot by 80s or 90s standards, but in 2023, not so much. That's the style of the game now.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
I don't really think what you're saying is new. Players like Jordan, AI, and Kobe were criticized in the same exact way. Hell, Kobe was the king of throwing up "hero shots."

To be honest, I don't even know if I would consider that a hero shot in today's game. Dudes take long 3s all the time. Everybody on his team was covered, and he was wide open. It would have been a stupid shot by 80s or 90s standards, but in 2023, not so much. That's the style of the game now.
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Everyone on the team was covered cause he stop his dribble moments after passing half court, passing half court with almost half the shot clock gone and they weren’t even pressing cause they are up 15. Stopping his dribble there limits his passing opportunities and look at the body language of the players after that shot. Only the ones on the bench are celebrating that. The others just slowly made their way back up court.

Jordan and Kobe played in the triangle offense, that offense builds fluidity and rhythm amongst the core offense players of the team.

Jordan didn’t take inefficient shots and even when one on one, positioned himself in the offense to be able to facilitate to pieces that where still moving. Kobe as well, Kobe definitely would not have done that even with the hero ball he did play.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
I don't really think what you're saying is new. Players like Jordan, AI, and Kobe were criticized in the same exact way. Hell, Kobe was the king of throwing up "hero shots."

To be honest, I don't even know if I would consider that a hero shot in today's game. Dudes take long 3s all the time. Everybody on his team was covered, and he was wide open. It would have been a stupid shot by 80s or 90s standards, but in 2023, not so much. That's the style of the game now.
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I was watching a interview and can’t remember who it was but it was an NBA player.

He said it’s like 15-20 guys in the league that’s really that dude and then it’s the rest of us. Basically the talent gap is bigger than we think
 
Yea but all those guys aren’t on the same team..you could even say that there’s maybe 5 teams that have more than 2 of those guys.

If everyone else is equal, that should average out to better team ball.
 
Alle’Oxin’Free said:
Everyone on the team was covered cause he stop his dribble moments after passing half court, passing half court with almost half the shot clock gone and they weren’t even pressing cause they are up 15. Stopping his dribble there limits his passing opportunities and look at the body language of the players after that shot. Only the ones on the bench are celebrating that. The others just slowly made their way back up court.

Jordan and Kobe played in the triangle offense, that offense builds fluidity and rhythm amongst the core offense players of the team.

Jordan didn’t take inefficient shots and even when one on one, positioned himself in the offense to be able to facilitate to pieces that where still moving. Kobe as well, Kobe definitely would not have done that even with the hero ball he did play.
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Yes, because when MJ and Kobe played, taking shots at damn near the half court line wasn't really a thing. It is a thing now though, so a wide open shot at that position of the floor isn't really any crazier than a turn around double pumped jumper with three people covering you, which is something both MJ and Kobe did a lot.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Yes, because when MJ and Kobe played, taking shots at damn near the half court line wasn't really a thing. It is a thing now though, so a wide open shot at that position of the floor isn't really any crazier than a turn around double pumped jumper with three people covering you, which is something both MJ and Kobe did a lot.
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Cause it’s a bad shot, it’s wide open cause it’s a bad inefficient way to play basketball
 
Mr allergens

Let’s not take one clip and then do what you’re doing with it right now

1. Dame intended to pass and he picked up his dribble to do so

2. Looked to find a teammate but then didn’t see any decent passing options and didn’t feel like waiting

3. Jrue sagged off of him to play the passing lane a bit

4. Dame knew he could hit that shot and his teammates knew and seen him do that all the time. The players on the floor don’t need to celebrate a shot they know the star can make

5. A little bit of cockiness goes into taking that shot but it wasn’t a questionable shot for him

I seen a vid last week of him in practice shooting and making multiple shots from the halfcourt line (hard to find now since he made this shot last night)
 
Alle’Oxin’Free said:
Cause it’s a bad shot, it’s wide open cause it’s a bad inefficient way to play basketball
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And stars have been taking and making bad shots since the NBA has existed.

I don't even like NBA basketball right now, but point out this shot and acting like it's the worst thing ever seen in basketball is crazy. Pick any star player you want and pull up a highlight reel. Half the shots on there would probably be considered bad shots if they were taken by anyone but that player.
 
Sony Montana said:
Mr allergens

Let’s not take one clip and then do what you’re doing with it right now

1. Dame intended to pass and he picked up his dribble to do so

2. Looked to find a teammate but then didn’t see any decent passing options and didn’t feel like waiting

3. Jrue sagged off of him to play the passing lane a bit

4. Dame knew he could hit that shot and his teammates knew and seen him do that all the time. The players on the floor don’t need to celebrate a shot they know the star can make

5. A little bit of cockiness goes into taking that shot but it wasn’t a questionable shot for him

I seen a vid last week of him in practice shooting and making multiple shots from the halfcourt line (hard to find now since he made this shot last night)
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How many finals dame I can make half court shots and my team know..been to?

What’s the narrative with dame and the blazers?
 
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