2020 NFL Season Thread

Why folks really upset with Hurts being benched in the 4th quarter.

Did they not see dude play that game

He was 30% completion
Less that 75 yards

He was ass all game
 
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Report: Eagles players had to be restrained on sideline after Pederson benched Hurts

By Matt Mullin


Apparently, members of the New York Giants and their fans weren't the only ones furious at the Eagles' decision to play Nate Sudfeld over Jalen Hurts in the fourth quarter of their regular season finale. And no, we're not talking about faction the Eagles fans who have voiced their frustration over what appeared to be Doug Pederson waving a big ol' white flag on national television with the entire football world watching.

According to The Inquirer's Jeff McLane, several members of the team, both players and coaches, were not only surprised, but they were "shocked and outraged." Some were "angry," so much so that two defensive players had to be restrained from approaching the head coach on the sideline. Two offensive starters, including Jason Kelce, who just last week offered a passionate anti-tanking plea, did reportedly get to Pederson however, and asked him why he pulled the starting quarterback late in a three-point game.

Kelce, as McLane notes, did not talk to the media on Monday following the 20-14 loss that moved the Eagles to 4-11-1 for the season and has yet to speak publicly.

None of this was visible on the broadcast, but there was a moment when Hurts appeared to be confused by the decision his head coach was making. Here's more from McLane:

Hurts was distraught, as well. Even though he had been told Wednesday that there was a chance Sudfeld could play, he couldn’t understand why Pederson would make the switch, sources close to the situation said.
The NBC broadcast caught Hurts on the bench after he was replaced apparently saying, “That’s not right.”


Sudfeld's play certainly didn't help, as he turned the ball over on each of his first two drives. According to McLane, many of the players knew their only chance at coming back was with Hurts on the field, which, sure, it's nice to see the players have confidence in the rookie, even with a backup unit around him. But it also shows just how obvious the decision to tank was, even if Pederson denied it after the game, saying that he entered the week with a plan to give Sudfeld some time in the regular season finale.

"Yes, I was coaching to win. Yes, that was my decision, solely," Pederson said when asked if he was told by owner Jeffrey Lurie or GM Howie Roseman to make the switch. "Nate has obviously been here for four years and I felt that he deserved an opportunity to get some snaps. Listen, if there's anyone out there that thinks that I'm not trying to win the game – [Zach] Ertz is out there, Brandon Graham is out there, Darius Slay is out there. All our top guys are still on the field at the end. So, we were going to win the game."

He has a point there, but none of those guys play quarterback. And the drop-off from Hurts to Sudfeld was glaring, even on a night where Hurts was hardly at his best throwing the football.

On Monday, Pederson doubled down on that claim, insisting that the team still had a chance to pull off the comeback with Sudfeld under center. He also made sure to point out on Monday just how poorly the offense was playing before Hurts was taken out.

"Our offensive struggles have not been about one position group or one guy or whatever," Pederson said. "It's been a multitude of issues that we've had, and again, last night in that game, we were in a situation where we failed to score as an offense. We failed to score there at the end of the third quarter. We were struggling just a little bit to move the ball. Defensively, they kept us in the game with a couple of takeaways late.

"And my plan was to get Nate [Sudfeld] in the game. Nate's a guy that's very capable of running our system and executing, and an opportunity to pull that game out last night."



The problem is, it appears some of those who work with Pederson disagree. Furthermore, some didn't even realize there was a plan in place to play Sudfeld for an extended period of time (which is a little harder to believe considering people outside the building knew before kickoff that Sudfeld was going to see time, and the pure fact that the Eagles were sitting several starters telegraphed the impending tank). Here's more from McLane:



Some Eagles staffers still weren’t sure what was behind Pederson’s decision a day later, if he was under orders from owner Jeffrey Lurie and/or general manager Howie Roseman, although most speculated that it was most likely related to draft position. The Eagles will have the No. 6 overall draft pick, rather than the No. 9 pick had they won.
Some speculated that most wouldn’t have cared had Pederson communicated his plans to the team, or publicly stated his intention to treat the finale like a preseason game and insert Sudfeld at some point.
[inquirer.com]
If Pederson was actually coaching to win the game, then pulling Hurts would have only made sense if the Eagles were down big and had little to no chance of coming back. And maybe by sitting most of his other starters — you know, like one does when trying to win — Pederson expected that to be the case by the time the fourth quarter rolled around.

It wasn't, and Pederson still opted to sit his second-round pick in place of a pending free agent third-string quarterback. Sure, it pissed some people off — from his own players and assistants to those on rival teams — but it appears to have gotten the desired result, as the Eagles will be picking three spots higher than they would've had they won the game.

Was it worth it? We'll find out in April.


 
Why folks really upset with Hurts being benched in the 4th quarter.

Did they not see dude play that game

He was 30% completion
Less that 75 yards

He was ass all game
It's really only the Giants crying about it.

It's not Philly's fault the Midgets sucked so hard this year they needed the Eagles to do their dirty work. That's on them. Fuck them. We don't owe nobody nothing.
 
there’s literally an article on this page detailing how eagles players were upset with pedersons decision

Fact.

but hurts was having the worse game of any QB that Sunday.


players was legit benched throughout the league Sunday by so many teams
 
Jalen Hurts was the only reason they was in that game. His passing wasn't great but he WAS the reason they were only down 3 when he was he got benched.

Wasn't like they was playing KC and down 35-0. They was playing the Deadskins and they should've tied the the game if Peterson was a fukn moron and just kicked the FG. Even w/ Hurts not having a good passing day they absolutely could've beaten Washington.
 
Fact.

but hurts was having the worse game of any QB that Sunday.


players was legit benched throughout the league Sunday by so many teams

even with his poor play they were still in the game. the offense looked worse with sudfeld in. nate been trash his whole career so why does he “deserve snaps” in a week 17 game where you’re only down by three points? If they were getting skulldragged i could understand but the situation in which doug pulled hurts just don’t add up

couple that with going for it on 4th down in the red zone instead of kicking the FG for the tie and seems like pederson was trying to lose the game
 
Jalen Hurts was the only reason they was in that game. His passing wasn't great but he WAS the reason they were only down 3 when he was he got benched.

Wasn't like they was playing KC and down 35-0. They was playing the Deadskins and they should've tied the the game if Peterson was a fukn moron and just kicked the FG. Even w/ Hurts not having a good passing day they absolutely could've beaten Washington.

Wrong.
Dude had a total of a 106 yards passing and running throes 3 quarters of football.

he def wasn’t the reason they was still in.
 
even with his poor play they were still in the game. the offense looked worse with sudfeld in. nate been trash his whole career so why does he “deserve snaps” in a week 17 game where you’re only down by three points? If they were getting skulldragged i could understand but the situation in which doug pulled hurts just don’t add up

couple that with going for it on 4th down in the red zone instead of kicking the FG for the tie and seems like pederson was trying to lose the game

7-20 72 yards and a pick through 3 quarters
5-12 32 yards and a pick for 1 quarter

Hurts ran the ball 7 times for 34 yards
Nate ran the ball 2 times for 12 yards

Tua got benched for less than That.


If my QB giving me that type of production being benched is what it is.
 
And 2 rushing TD's w/ the team down inside the deadskins 10yrd line. But the idiot wanted to go for it instead of kick the game tying FG.

But I see ur in one of "stances", so you got it slim.

Hurts had the worse game of the 32 starting QBs in the league Sunday.


Getting benched after that play is what it is
 
7-20 72 yards and a pick through 3 quarters
5-12 32 yards and a pick for 1 quarter

Hurts ran the ball 7 times for 34 yards
Nate ran the ball 2 times for 12 yards

Tua got benched for less than That.


If my QB giving me that type of production being benched is what it is.

the Eagles scored 14 points sunday night
Hurts had two rushing touchdowns

he was the reason the eagles were in the game

his play wasn’t pretty but QB’s won’t always throw for 300 YDS and 4 TD’s on 70% completion percentage every sunday. you gotta find ways to win ugly. if this is your QB of the future let him figure it out

i just think they did the brother dirty but it’s not my squad so fuck em
 
the Eagles scored 14 points sunday night
Hurts had two rushing touchdowns

he was the reason the eagles were in the game

his play wasn’t pretty but QB’s won’t always throw for 300 YDS and 4 TD’s on 70% completion percentage every sunday. you gotta find ways to win ugly. if this is your QB of the future let him figure it out

i just think they did the brother dirty but it’s not my squad so fuck em
He just hates black QBs lol
 
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