2020 NFL Season Thread

Revolver Ocelot said:
Y'all want all these QB's and y'all gonna have damn near 70M tied up in Bress & Hill
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When it comes to moving money around.

Our GM is top 3

That’s one thing I don’t worry about.

But hopefully Winston signs another cheap deal to come back next year
 
Bow to Royalty said:
We're not talking wins losses. We're talking points allowed vs defensive performance. You say the only thing that matters when evaluating a defense is points allowed.



^^ That's you ignoring the QB fucking the defense. You said this years defense was really good and last year's was really bad (all based on points allowed). We have the same defense except a rookie 2nd round safety. We have the same DC. But you're asking "How i come up with this shit?" When I say Winston's 35 turnovers and 7 pick 6's hurt the teams points allowed last year. If you thought Winston wasn't hurting the defense you wouldn't ask how I come up with that.
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I said points allowed is the most important stat. I find it funny how you come up with context behind everything else but then ignore context to suit your argument. And again show me where I said a QB can never make a defenses life hard because that post you quoted wasn’t it. Nice try.
 
Revolver Ocelot said:
:hahaha: .....bruh they was at your neck this past offseason when you was giving them the 411 bout Winston. Now that he can't beat out Taysom Hill they ready to move on.
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The support he gets is wiiiild to me, haha. Analysts say he turns the ball over too much, his draft profile from college says he turns the ball over too much, I've watched almost every game of his career and say he turns the ball over too much. His numbers say he turns the ball over too much. Payton is one of the best coaches in the NFL and won't put him in.

But they're still in here saying he's good and it was the system in Tampa that messed him up. More faith in Winston's play, than Payton's decision making.
 
Dwayne said:
When it comes to moving money around.

Our GM is top 3

That’s one thing I don’t worry about.

But hopefully Winston signs another cheap deal to come back next year
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Ya, I'm sure his market value skyrocketed since not being able to get a good offer last offseason and not being able to beat out Hill for the 2nd string spot. You want him gone and Wentz in. It's ok to say it.
 
5th Letter said:
I said points allowed is the most important stat. I find it funny how you come up with context behind everything else but then ignore context to suit your argument. And again show me where I said a QB can never make a defenses life hard because that post you quoted wasn’t it. Nice try.
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You said no other stats matter. You only look at points allowed.

Just because you deny it doesn't mean it's not true. What were you saying in this post then since you weren't saying Winston didn't contribute to the defense giving up points?

5th Letter said:
Same coaches same scheme but the reason for the defense being trash is Jameis? How do you come up with this shit?
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Bow to Royalty said:
You said no other stats matter. You only look at points allowed.

Just because you deny it doesn't mean it's not true. What were you saying in this post then since you weren't saying Winston didn't contribute to the defense giving up points?
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I’m not denying anything. Just show me where I said a QB can never make a defenses life hard.
 
Bow to Royalty said:
The support he gets is wiiiild to me, haha. Analysts say he turns the ball over too much, his draft profile from college says he turns the ball over too much, I've watched almost every game of his career and say he turns the ball over too much. His numbers say he turns the ball over too much. Payton is one of the best coaches in the NFL and won't put him in.

But they're still in here saying he's good and it was the system in Tampa that messed him up. More faith in Winston's play, than Payton's decision making.
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who is they fam lol

edit: oh...5th and Dwayne lol
 
5th Letter said:
I’m not denying anything. Just show me where I said a QB can never make a defenses life hard.
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What were you saying then?

5th Letter said:
I’m not saying your opinion is invalid. Tampa being one of the worst defensive teams last year played a part. This year they’re top 5.
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Bow to Royalty said:
We have pretty much the same defense. A new rookie safety. The QB not turning the ball over like 35 times helps minimize opponent's possessions, keep points off the board, maintain momentum, and let's the defense stay off the field.
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5th Letter said:
Same coaches same scheme but the reason for the defense being trash is Jameis? How do you come up with this shit?
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^^^ That's me saying the defense is about the same as last year. Their numbers just look worse last year because the QB played terribly and hurt their numbers. You respond with "How do I come up with this shit?". How's that not denying the QB can fuck up the defense?
 
Bow to Royalty said:
^^^ That's me saying the defense is about the same as last year. Their numbers just look worse last year because the QB played terribly and hurt their numbers. You respond with "How do I come up with this shit?". How's that not denying the QB can fuck up the defense?
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Where did I say what you keep asking?
 
5th Letter said:
Where did I say a QB can never hurt a defense? Show me saying those exacts words.
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Bruh. Your lack of ability to think is really shining through lately. You can say something without directly stating the words.

You need people to lay out shit that directly for you to understand it?

If I say "Cam isn't good enough to start or be the backup for almost any team in the league anymore." I sound dumb trying to hide behind "Show me where I said the exact words "Cam is bad now".

I posted it with context a few times now asking what you were saying. You haven't answered.
 
Bow to Royalty said:
Bruh. Your lack of ability to think is really shining through lately. You can say something without directly stating the words.

You need people to lay out shit that directly for you to understand it?

If I say "Cam isn't good enough to start or be the backup for almost any team in the league anymore." I sound dumb trying to hide behind "Show me where I said the exact words "Cam is bad now".

I posted it with context a few times now asking what you were saying. You haven't answered.
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We were talking about Jameis being the]/i] reason for the defense getting scored on. While I admit that his mistakes can directly or indirectly put the defense in a bad spot, I’m saying that it wasn’t all him.
 
grYmes said:
Nobody about to trade for Wentz with that contract. No certainty Hurts the answer and the Eagles got a lot of issues that don’t help whoever is at center.
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Nah there will probably be about 4 or 5 teams that would trade for him. What's for certain is that the Wentz era in Philly is over. The city turned on him, and now this. Dude needs a change of scenery. If I were him I wouldn't play another down for this team or these fans.
 
Vagrant-718 said:
Go to New England with the same trash receivers? And Indy already got Rivers and Bursett. Heck they need Wentz for?
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I have more faith in BB to actually run the ball and help develop Wentz than this FO. People forget before that 2017 Wentz hired a QB guru to help him and the Eagles FO got mad at him for doing that. His mechanics and play have been declining since that year. Injuries played a part, but these dudes don't develop anyone.
 
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