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Aren't you reading too much into his status right now on the team and my comment?

1. You have no idea why BB had him as the emergency QB. After all he sat Damian Harris a whole year last year and Harris wasn't even injured. Comes into his first game and runs for a 100 yards.

2. Same with the "weak QB" room comment clearly he(BB) like what he had or knew Cam was going to be available to not draft a QB. Overall maybe BB didn't want any of the QBs left to draft. Are any of the QBs he could of drafted lighting anything up right now?

And you are judging him (Stidham) after BARELY playing a quarter of football or you would of never brought this convo up in the first place.

1. You may be reading too much into this. He had him as the emergency QB because he thought Hoyer gave them their best chance at winning. Same reason Cam is starting every week he's available. It's simple.

2. Nah, I can't be convinced he looked at Stidham and Hoyer and thought he was good at QB. You're saying what I originally said (and I think you disagreed with again). You said if he didn't like his guys, he'd draft a QB. I said the top QB's were gone by the time they picked, and they didn't really have the draft capital to move up for them. And Bill may not have wanted the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft.

I'm judging him for being the 3rd string QB still. There's no reason for me to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point. He's a 4th round pick, that's the 3rd string QB, and hasn't shown much in his limited play time.

He's a media creation until he proves otherwise. The media said hyped good he was, but they didn't see him play. The media said he'd push Cam for the starting role, but Bill wouldn't even start him when Cam wasn't available.
 
2. Nah, I can't be convinced he looked at Stidham and Hoyer and thought he was good at QB. You're saying what I originally said (and I think you disagreed with again). You said if he didn't like his guys, he'd draft a QB. I said the top QB's were gone by the time they picked, and they didn't really have the draft capital to move up for them. And Bill may not have wanted the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft.

I'm judging him for being the 3rd string QB still. There's no reason for me to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point. He's a 4th round pick, that's the 3rd string QB, and hasn't shown much in his limited play time.


I am only going off of what you are given me. You @ me because In your head last night was a good enough simple to say BB didn't have enough at QB.

Who judges anyone off of a quarter of football? And ultimately he might not be anything..but your premise or my premise is the same when you have it out with shiz over Brady's play after just one game....

And its a no brain'er if you can get a former mvp vet QB to start for your team you go get him unless you already have one.

Also teams don't have to always rush young talent and have them play. They could ruin them
..see the jets ruining Sam Darnold right now.
 
I am only going off of what you are given me. You @ me because In your head last night was a good enough simple to say BB didn't have enough at QB.

Who judges anyone off of a quarter of football? And ultimately he might not be anything..but your premise or my premise is the same when you have it out with shiz over Brady's play after just one game....

And its a no brain'er if you can get a former mvp vet QB to start for your team you go get him unless you already have one.

Also teams don't have to always rush young talent and have them play. They could ruin them
..see the jets ruining Sam Darnold right now.

You keep emphasizing how he played (which I barely even spoke on) and ignoring he wasn't chosen over Hoyer. If the guy you chose as a starter isn't good enough to make it through a game, you don't have enough at quarterback.

It's his second year in the league, so i don't think making him the 2nd string guy is rushing him along. Darnold was a day 1 starter I think. And if the goal is to protect him, then let Hoyer play the game out.

If Brady was on the bench Week 1, I would have had a negative outlook on him too.
 
You keep emphasizing how he played (which I barely even spoke on) and ignoring he wasn't chosen over Hoyer. If the guy you chose as a starter isn't good enough to make it through a game, you don't have enough at quarterback.

It's his second year in the league, so i don't think making him the 2nd string guy is rushing him along. Darnold was a day 1 starter I think. And if the goal is to protect him, then let Hoyer play the game out.

If Brady was on the bench Week 1, I would have had a negative outlook on him too.


Again you @ me AFTER this game, not in week 1 nor week 2, etc....I can only think this is in response to a game he actually was seen in..idk and i did address what could be the possibility why Hoyer was choosen over him...but you want to look past that...although it could be what many a franchise do...(start a vet over a young kat) See Fitz in Miami, Tyrod in LA....Aaron Rodgers in GB..I am not saying Stidhim will become Aaron Rodgers....

YOU do not think putting him in is "rushing him along" but you are not an NFL scout nor do you have any idea what is going in anyone's "QB room". You are just speculating...which you can go ahead and believe whatever you like..i truly do not get why people are still making this a topic..Cam is the quarterback right now...how about people deal with Stidhim when/if he becomes a starter.
 
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Again you @ me AFTER this game, not in week 1 nor week 2, etc....I can only think this is in response to a game he actually was seen in..idk and i did address what could be the possibility why Hoyer was choosen over him...but you want to look past that...although it could be what many a franchise do...(start a vet over a young kat) See Fitz in Miami, Tyrod in LA....Aaron Rodgers in GB..I am not saying Stidhim will become Aaron Rodgers....

YOU do not think putting him in is "rushing him along" but you are not an NFL scout nor do you have any idea what is going in anyone's "QB room". You are just speculating...which you can go ahead and believe whatever you like..i truly do not get why people are still making this a topic..Cam is the quarterback right now...how about people deal with Stidhim when/if he becomes a starter.

I was saying this before the season started. I said I didn't look at the Pats depth chart, just knew Cam was the starter. So I didn't know Stidham was 3rd string (so Hoyer was your second best QB) until yesterday's game.

Those guys are starting over rookies. Stidham isn't a rookie. Nobody's expecting Tua or Herbert (even before the Tyrod thing) to not be the starter by week 1 next season. How many good QB's that are intended to take over, sit beyond 1 season ESPECIALLY after the starter leaves?

I'm just pointing out why they got Cam. They had a weak QB room. Even if what you're saying is right, then they don't think Stidham is ready yet. If you have Hoyer, and a guy that's not ready yet, then you have a weak QB room.
 
I was saying this before the season started. I said I didn't look at the Pats depth chart, just knew Cam was the starter. So I didn't know Stidham was 3rd string (so Hoyer was your second best QB) until yesterday's game.

Those guys are starting over rookies. Stidham isn't a rookie. Nobody's expecting Tua or Herbert (even before the Tyrod thing) to not be the starter by week 1 next season. How many good QB's that are intended to take over, sit beyond 1 season ESPECIALLY after the starter leaves?

I'm just pointing out why they got Cam. They had a weak QB room. Even if what you're saying is right, then they don't think Stidham is ready yet. If you have Hoyer, and a guy that's not ready yet, then you have a weak QB room.

Stidham was 3rd string, as a form of punishment

He had a hip injury, early in training camp. Immediately left practice but the results came back negative.

So it made him look weak and unmotivated, as they felt he should have shown more toughness, in battling Cam for the starting spot.
 
Stidham was 3rd string, as a form of punishment

He had a hip injury, early in training camp. Immediately left practice but the results came back negative.

So it made him look weak and unmotivated, as they felt he should have shown more toughness, in battling Cam for the starting spot.

So Bill folded and looked weak by punishing him, then crawling back to him to try to save them? Doesn’t sound right. Bill doesn't seem like the type to not follow through with a punishment.
 
It would be cool to see Eric bieniemy get the texan hc job
Nope.

that shit is set up to fail.

no draft capital and in cap hell

no weapons for Watson

aging defense

all red flags and a waste of oppurtunity for a black coach who only gets so many runs at HC gigs in the NFL

I want him to stay far away from them and the Jets

ATL would be the perfect spot for him
 
Nope.

that shit is set up to fail.

no draft capital and in cap hell

no weapons for Watson

aging defense

all red flags and a waste of oppurtunity for a black coach who only gets so many runs at HC gigs in the NFL

I want him to stay far away from them and the Jets

ATL would be the perfect spot for him

Having a franchise QB in the NFL is half the battle though. You have one of those and you can figure the rest out.

Matt Ryan is no longer a franchise QB and is on the back 9 of his career.
 
So Bill folded and looked weak by punishing him, then crawling back to him to try to save them? Doesn’t sound right. Bill doesn't seem like the type to not follow through with a punishment.

The punishment wasn't to make him 3rd string for the season.

It was to say you'll have to earn the backup spot on the field 'cause 3rd string QB's don't get practice reps and he earned it, given the low bar Hoyer set.
 
The Jets haven't fired a HC midseason since '75 and they better keep that streak going.

Any HC candidate will probably have options and the jets at the bottom of their list.

The biggest selling point the jets will have, is that they give the HC time and let them finish what they started (in the offseason).

It shows faith and support, particularly during adversity.
 
Having a franchise QB in the NFL is half the battle though. You have one of those and you can figure the rest out.

Matt Ryan is no longer a franchise QB and is on the back 9 of his career.
If he dont win in 2 years hes done and will prob never get a look for HC again

Maybe Josh McDaniel can take that chance

EB cant
 
No draft capital and cap hell severely limits you in bringing in talent to help out that franchise qb who has no weapons and a shit oline

in addition to the defense being aged and mid af...

Again If im EB i stay far away from that job

let one of these white boys take on that suicide mission
 
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