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Ok. If LL never met rubin and russ how would rap look? If eazy never went to dre and said I wanna clean my money up with rap how would the game look. It doesn't even compare. His impact through starting nwa even reaches film. Without eazy there is no cube. Which means no boyz in the hood cause u do know that's the title of his song. There is no Friday. Are we there yet. Barbershop or big3. Without him would be no beats by Dre cause he put Dre in the game
Hey If you feel like Eazy Is the most important rapper by what you listed above ...OK

I Love Eric Wright at one time to me he was the most popular rapper .... I think we're both looking at this from different viewpoints


 
Stop, Dre made the beats and Cube wrote his rhymes, they put him on
They didn't have a voice. Dre would still have been djing at eves after dark and cube was in some group called cia. Ruthless gave them a platform. Folks from the east were clowning the west. Eazy did it from the dirt. Yes Dre had beats and cube had rhymes but if you don't have a platform it doesn't mean anything. Hov had rhymes but until dame came along and helped him how to be heard it didn't matter
 
Hey If you feel like Eazy Is the most important rapper by what you listed above ...OK

I Love Eric Wright at one time to me he was the most popular rapper .... I think we're both looking at this from different viewpoints



I get it but greatness spawns greatness. Who LL put on? Did he ever jump to the exec side? He is great but to say most important covers ground that he never touched. How can he be the most important when other rappers went on to be heads of their own labels that led to others selling millions
 
Hey If you feel like Eazy Is the most important rapper by what you listed above ...OK

I Love Eric Wright at one time to me he was the most popular rapper .... I think we're both looking at this from different viewpoints




If you really wanna talk that talk like in that tweet, then Ice T would also deserving of that title.

Ice T been on wax since Reckless dropped in '84 and was a hit. Had a legit crossover with Body Count resulting in a gold record and a number of albums charting in a grip of countries across the globe even when they didn't chart here. Got a legit acting career and all that.
 
Huh? Don't matter if it was established. Your legacy is judged by those you affected, helped, and put on. Look at eazy tree. If you don't understand his impact then you don't know hip hop. Hip hop has family trees. Like how baby and slim can be directly linked to Drake. Eazy has a direct link to Kendrick, Dre, snoop.....name any hip hop lineage that compares
So uhhhh by your own metric you have articulated my point.

Trees right?
Who came before eazy?
 
So uhhhh by your own metric you have articulated my point.

Trees right?
Who came before eazy?
Exactly. This can't be an argument about just influence. There is always someone before you and they could be considered more influenancal than you because they came first. LL was the first to transition from teenager rapper to adult rapper while increasing his success. He defined cool, cross over success and the bar for a generation. He is the reason why EVERY popular rapper from the 90s had to have one slower song or a song/remix with an r&b artist on their album to appeal to women. Which showd Missy, Lauren Hill, and Drake how it could be successful. On the business end he did the following BEFORE 1988s, movies, clothing line, selling mixtape content via 1-900 number, platinum records and from 88-90s transition the largest rap record label from 80s style rap to 90s
 
They didn't have a voice. Dre would still have been djing at eves after dark and cube was in some group called cia. Ruthless gave them a platform. Folks from the east were clowning the west. Eazy did it from the dirt. Yes Dre had beats and cube had rhymes but if you don't have a platform it doesn't mean anything. Hov had rhymes but until dame came along and helped him how to be heard it didn't matter
Eazy was a good business man that made a team that set him up for success. Eazy was not a rapper, he was an entertainer with a good voice for rap. He didnt write any of what he rapped. He was the face for other talented people like DOC, MC Ren, Ice Cube and BG Knocc out.

Putting money behind amazingly talented people does not make you the most influential. If it Did then Suge Knight, Russell Simmons and Diddy would all have a claim at most influential.

Remember Dre was on "I still express... I don't smoke weed or Cess" on Ruthless. You could say Suge really influenced the west coast sound because Dre wasn't on that until he linked up with him, and How about the not being an angry Hitnum Up style 2pac until Suge was backing him too.
 
Eazy was a good business man that made a team that set him up for success. Eazy was not a rapper, he was an entertainer with a good voice for rap. He didnt write any of what he rapped. He was the face for other talented people like DOC, MC Ren, Ice Cube and BG Knocc out.

Putting money behind amazingly talented people does not make you the most influential. If it Did then Suge Knight, Russell Simmons and Diddy would all have a claim at most influential.

Remember Dre was on "I still express... I don't smoke weed or Cess" on Ruthless. You could say Suge really influenced the west coast sound because Dre wasn't on that until he linked up with him, and How about the not being an angry Hitnum Up style 2pac until Suge was backing him too.
I’m just saying…

Using your initial post to mine, thats how you wind up discussing the orchard. When all we talking bout is who planted the seeds to create said orchard.

Hopefully that makes sense.
 
LL made some good points. Im pretty sure there are some good adds in this thread but im sure ice t wasn't mentioned, run dmc or soulja boy
 
Eazy was a good business man that made a team that set him up for success. Eazy was not a rapper, he was an entertainer with a good voice for rap. He didnt write any of what he rapped. He was the face for other talented people like DOC, MC Ren, Ice Cube and BG Knocc out.

Putting money behind amazingly talented people does not make you the most influential. If it Did then Suge Knight, Russell Simmons and Diddy would all have a claim at most influential.

Remember Dre was on "I still express... I don't smoke weed or Cess" on Ruthless. You could say Suge really influenced the west coast sound because Dre wasn't on that until he linked up with him, and How about the not being an angry Hitnum Up style 2pac until Suge was backing him too.
U taking it out of context. The question is most important. Not best rhymes, best delivery, or best rap style. I never listened to a Drake album but I know he is probably the most influential and important rapper of the last 20yrs. Whether he wrote it or not when eazy spit the bar "cruising down the street in my six four" that set up west coast hip hop for the next 30yrs. Dre is the architect of the west suge never sat behind any mixing board.
 
LL Cool J might have been the first solo rap mega star. His style and image has been the blueprint for alotta of labels far as what a crossover rapper should do to have massive success. He was a major reason, why Def Jam prevailed and became the THE most important label of all time, far as rap music.
Thanks for being the one to answer.
 
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