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Ccslim said:
You do know Andy Breashear is a popular dem governor in a deep red state, he is an effective communicator of issues that face constituency that the typical dem establishment candidate does not understand.
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Andy Beshear was my first pick as Kamala's VP candidate. I know exactly who he is. The main reason why he wasn't selected is because he is not ready for that stage. He is effective in his role as Governor but he was not ready for the VP stage. His messaging was not as natural as Shapiro, Newsome, or even Tim Walz who isn't the best messenger himself.
 
Knock_Twice said:
I'm asking would he be able reverse abortion since it's in the state's hand?
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He’s against abortion being a federal issue and having the federal government involved

He’s leaving it up to the state.

And there will be restrictions as to how the abortions happen….he’s against the abortion pill or anything sent by mail

Also timing matters…he’s against any form of abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy

He’s basically against sexual and reproductive matters being a nation-wide issue. It’s a state/civil matter not a federal one and due to differing beliefs everyone has the right to support or not support it
 
Knock_Twice said:
Why is it not straight forward? How come the women are saying that "he's gonna make abortion illegal??

Are they wrong? Is it clear to them, that's why I ask the question, will he do this? Apparantly somebody told them that he's going to do that? Who told all of these women that?
I mean millions of women are saying that he's going to make abortion illegal and take away Birth Control, is it true?

Break it down for me, take the state of Louisiana
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Who is the Governor of Louisiana? Are they Democrat or Republican?

Who runs the State House in Louisiana? Democrats or Republicans?

Who runs the State Senate in Louisiana? Democrats or Republicans?

Is abortion legal in Louisiana right now? What are the parameters and who set them?
 
Ccslim said:


its true, either endorse it or they will still deal with the fallout of 2016 and the legacy of Obama's failures
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Are you saying that Democrats don't already run on these things because they do. Republicans in Congress have blocked all 6 of those things at every turn when presented.
 
Los216 said:
Who is the Governor of Louisiana? Are they Democrat or Republican?

Who runs the State House in Louisiana? Democrats or Republicans?

Who runs the State Senate in Louisiana? Democrats or Republicans?

Is abortion legal in Louisiana right now? What are the parameters and who set them?
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Rep,

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Not sure, about the abortion. edit, It's banned as of 2022 or some shit
 
TheNightKing said:
That’s what I been trying to tell you this whole time. This election was a paradigm shift that made the Latino vote more valuable than ours.

Democrats are going to laser focus on things Latinos care about leaving us unheard. Kamala made an error in calculation or she thought she owed it to black people to address their issues, that’s why she pandered.

She really should have gone after those Latinos because they were the deciding factor where we’ve been that in the past. In past elections all you heard was how crucial the black vote was. Now and going forward, it’s going to be Latinos.

So those care packages you talked about, are going to be weighted more to Latinos. We’re going to be down there with the Asians who nobody promises anything specifically when they’re running.
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And if Kamala would've pandered (we need to kill this term) to Latino's in this 100 day campaign (crazy) more than Black people, these New Black Media types would've lost whatever is left of their fucking minds.

Even right now she is getting killed for doing interviews with Black media and having Meg and Cardi B on stage at rallies. Imagine if she didn't sit with Shannon Sharpe, Breakfast Club, All The Smoke, and only had J-Lo, Bad Bunny, and Daddy Yankee on stage?

Niggas would be livid.

Their fake ass double standards would be eating them up.
 
dodge said:
He’s against abortion being a federal issue and having the federal government involved
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That's only because he's paid for dozens of abortions himself...............

dodge said:
He’s leaving it up to the state.

And there will be restrictions as to how the abortions happen….he’s against the abortion pill or anything sent by mail

Also timing matters…he’s against any form of abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy

He’s basically against sexual and reproductive matters being a nation-wide issue. It’s a state/civil matter not a federal one and due to differing beliefs everyone has the right to support or not support it
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None of this matters.

J.D. Vance is his VP and Project 2025 is his baby. It's here and it will be law. Handmaids Tale type shit.
 
dodge said:
He’s against abortion being a federal issue and having the federal government involved

He’s leaving it up to the state.

And there will be restrictions as to how the abortions happen….he’s against the abortion pill or anything sent by mail

Also timing matters…he’s against any form of abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy

He’s basically against sexual and reproductive matters being a nation-wide issue. It’s a state/civil matter not a federal one and due to differing beliefs everyone has the right to support or not support it
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So why were the Dems running on Productive Rights? What was Kamala running on or trying to prevent Trump for doing?

All this your body, your control or some shit

And why women that I've talked are saying that Trump will ban abortions, and birth control?

So the decision of making abortion illegal or legal falls on the State's 3 Branches?? Currently??
 
Los216 said:
Are you saying that Democrats don't already run on these things because they do. Republicans in Congress have blocked all 6 of those things at every turn when presented.
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you mis understand, they run on these things with no intention of actually going through with it. They can't because it goes against their wealthy donor base. They are finally being punished for this strategy.
 
Ccslim said:
you mis understand, they run on these things with no intention of actually going through with it. They can't because it goes against their wealthy donor base. They are finally being punished for this strategy.
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Every last one of those issues have been blocked by a Republican lead House and a Republican led Senate. Mitch McConnell only lives to block every Progressive Democratic pice of legislation. He literally said so himself and that's what he does.

It's not about Democrats delivering. They need overwhelming power to deliver which they do not have. The last time they had it, they focused on healthcare.
 
Los216 said:
Every last one of those issues have been blocked by a Republican lead House and a Republican led Senate. Mitch McConnell only lives to block every Progressive Democratic pice of legislation. He literally said so himself and that's what he does.

It's not about Democrats delivering. They need overwhelming power to deliver which they do not have. The last time they had it, they focused on healthcare.
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this is a lie, everyone knows this a lie. nobody believes to be be case anymore. the video I posted above even those reporters know this fact.

You cant keep saying put me in power ill do something for you, get in power and say..sorry we just can do it. Republicans on the otherhand "FEAR" their base and will use any small of amount of power in congress they have to get their shitty agenda passed. every single time.
 
Knock_Twice said:
So why were the Dems running on Productive Rights? What was Kamala running on or trying to prevent Trump for doing?

All this your body, your control or some shit

And why women that I've talked are saying that Trump will ban abortions, and birth control?

So the decision of making abortion illegal or legal falls on the State's 3 Branches?? Currently??
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There are two separate entities that you're mixing up.

Federal level. State level.

At the Federal level, the agenda is set by Congress. That's the House and the Senate in Washington D.C.

At the State level, the agenda is set by the individual House and Senate for each of the 50 states.

You live in Louisiana. Louisiana has a Republican Governor (Think President), Republican State House (think US House of Representatives), and a Republican State Senate (think United States Senate). Louisiana also has a Republican Attorney General which, Attorney Generals are the top cops in a state. Think Police Chief but for the entire state.

So Louisiana is a Red (Republican) state through and through. You're also bottom 3 in healthcare and education like most southern, Republican ran red states are btw.

Abortion is illegal in Louisiana. So if a woman in Louisiana wants to get an abortion (for any reason) she has to leave the state of Louisiana and go to another state. Sounds crazy right? That means if a woman or even a child under 18 is raped in Louisiana, she has to have that baby because the law says so.

So in essence, the state of Louisiana controls women's bodies.

Now I limited this to just abortions, but Project 2025 not only bans abortions Coach, it band birth control, and it requires the state to track the sexual activity of ALL women. That includes tracking pregnancies and use of condoms and any medical appointments like pap smears and STDs.

When someone talks about allowing Abortion at the Federal level, they are talking about NOT restriction access to abortions and those other things and NOT regulating women's bodies. Banning abortion at the Federal level, restricts it for the ENTIRE country.
 
Ccslim said:
this is a lie, everyone knows this a lie. nobody believes to be be case anymore. the video I posted above even those reporters know this fact.

You cant keep saying put me in power ill do something for you, get in power and say..sorry we just can do it. Republicans on the otherhand "FEAR" their base and will use any small of amount of power in congress they have to get their shitty agenda passed. every single time.
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In the last 16 years, Republicans in Congress have blocked raising the Federal minimum wage, Repealed the First Time Home Buyers Act, Would not put Medicare For All on the floor for a vote, and gutted Education.

These are not lies. There's a reason why John McCain giving the thumbs down on the skinny for Obamacare was such a big deal. It's because that's what Republicans do. They don't govern.

Give me one example of Republicans NOT blocking any of those policies or agendas in the last 16 years.
 
Los216 said:
That's only because he's paid for dozens of abortions himself...............



None of this matters.

J.D. Vance is his VP and Project 2025 is his baby. It's here and it will be law. Handmaids Tale type shit.
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Project 2025 is a farce and Trump is against it…but of course you would disagree and say that they are secretly behind it

It would literally be illegal for them to follow behind it and it would be unconstitutional


Are you also AWARE that being conservative doesn’t automatically mean Republican?

Most liberals are democrats but many conservatives vary from different parties

Some conservatives are democrats and some republicans hold liberal values
 
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