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Flouride vs anti flouride isn't what I care about either.

The point I'm making is, the circle that RFK runs with isn't saying we don't need flouride in water because it causes skeletal decay. The circle he runs with is saying we don't need flouride in water because it turns men to women.

Again these words never came out his mouth but it doesn't have too. The communities that have the same beliefs as him believe this.

That's the dangerous part. You're putting a conspiracy theorist in charge who thinks there is a conspiracy where "they" are putting a chemical in drinking water to make your kids gay.

Flouride in the water or not might have no consequences but this isn't the type of thinking that we should want in control of our health.

Cause next he might ban the small pox vaccine optinal and now kids will be dying left or right.

I'm all for a mfer coming in and banning harmful chemicals from the food we buy and stuff like that, but RFK hasnt shown he gives a fuck about that. He just has these conspiracies that they want to give kids autism through vaccines.

So again, yea we need someone to come in and hold these companies accountable on what they are putting in our food, our water, our air, and our medicine. But RFK ain't the guy cause he's nutty with it. Thats all I'm saying.

See I just don't agree. I have listened to RFK and the dude does his research and has reasons behind his beliefs. This isn't Alex Jones being handed the position. RFK has a track record with the environment and things like that. The environment stuff isn't specifically relevant but my point is I believe he is a measured person. Doesn't mean he will be right about everything but I am not panicked about him at all.

Your choice whether to believe him or not, but I specifically remember him saying it isn't about anti vaxx or saying he is right about everything. His stance was that this stuff needs a deeper dive and more studies.
 
Kamala closed the gap on both of those.

Economists all agreed Trump’s tariff and mass deportation plans would be worse on the economy.

As far as immigration, he was stronger because he convinced people they were all killers and rapists.

The same way people are asking why democrats lost, they need to be honest about why Trump won.

Trump won bc the left has been horrible. That is far and away the main reason. Think about it, he is probably the most hated candidate of all time and he still steamrolled her. That is why I keep beating the dead horse of people in the party and media need to do some serious self reflecting
 
There’s two directions Democrats can go now. Try to move more to the right or lean in to the far left.

Republicans faced this same dilemma in 2012 and they chose to lean in to the far right.

It will be interesting to see what Democrats choose to do after this. I think Shapiro will run in 2028 and win and shit will start to moderate as Trump transitions out of politics. It’s a cult of personality and without Trump Republicans can’t keep this up.
You saying without Trump but he's not going anywhere when his 4 years are up, he's still going to be part of politics in the republican base with his cult
 
Because you said white Americans will always revert back to white supremacy. I have been consistent in saying everyone needs to have a good look in the mirror. The past however many years the media and left make every damn excuse for why Trump stays relevant. Racism, sexism, fascism, garbage deplorable's.

How about they just stop and finally admit that they have been putting out shit candidates with shit policies and people don't like them or trust them. Trump just won in a landslide and is the first Republican since 04 to win the popular vote. There is no ism that is a catchall answer to that.

Bruh??!!! Are you on coke.

Run every single thing k harris did, said and ran on, but jus replace it with a str8 white, charismatic male. He would have won imo.

Gavin newsom, josh shaprio, andy beshear, chris murphy....

If anyone of those white men would have run the EXACT campaign kamala did. They would have won imo.

Its not all white supremacy, but its most of it.
 
Trump won bc the left has been horrible. That is far and away the main reason. Think about it, he is probably the most hated candidate of all time and he still steamrolled her. That is why I keep beating the dead horse of people in the party and media need to do some serious self reflecting
So let’s be real then, it wasn’t about economy and immigration. Maybe it was about a bad candidate, but why was that candidate bad? It wasn’t her economic or immigration policies because she’s objectively better on those. Tariffs and mass deportations, if they happen, will be objectively terrible.
 
Bruh??!!! Are you on coke.

Run every single thing k harris did, said and ran on, but jus replace it with a str8 white, charismatic male. He would have won imo.

Gavin newsom, josh shaprio, andy beshear, chris murphy....

If anyone of those white men would have run the EXACT campaign kamala did. They would have won imo.

Its not all white supremacy, but its most of it.

I don't agree. Well the charismatic part would definitely help. There are also other variables. With a Newsome or Shapiro they don't have to be attached to Bidens presidency which also hurt her. And I believe the messaging was bad. They just kept hammering the Trump fascism thing and people either don't buy it or it isn't high on their list of concerns. It is economy and immigration. And she was just flat out a shit candidate who didn't deserve to be running in the first place.

Once again, no self reflection. It is everyone else who is to blame.
 
I don't agree. Well the charismatic part would definitely help. There are also other variables. With a Newsome or Shapiro they don't have to be attached to Bidens presidency which also hurt her. And I believe the messaging was bad. They just kept hammering the Trump fascism thing and people either don't buy it or it isn't high on their list of concerns. It is economy and immigration. And she was just flat out a shit candidate who didn't deserve to be running in the first place.

Once again, no self reflection. It is everyone else who is to blame.

Agree to disagree
 
I do want to know what the plan is now for people who wanted democrats to lose to send a message about giving more to black people.

You got what you wanted, now what?

I don’t think the message you were trying to send was received. The message you tried to send was sent by Latinos and received loud and clear. All I’ve been hearing is how Latinos showed up.
 
I by no means thought that Kamala was a perfect candidate in any way, but it really does feel like when you have working your ass off for company and when it's time for a promotion, they give it to the white dude that makes the boss laugh.
Happened to my baby mama

Shit was so egregious the EEOC picked up the case like don’t even worry bout it we ll see this one through for you
 
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