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Does this apply to raw too? They crowned a new world champ, advertised it ahead of time and still lost 300k.
Sure does apply to Raw. But they also have proven draws in their back pocket. No Cody, No Seth, No Rhea, No Punk, No Bloodline. Put any of those people on the show and you're probably looking at a better rating.

Thats a lot of star power missing, AEW can only hope that Kenny and MJF can bring some of their lost audience back. But considering they couldn't retain the audience they got from airing the Brawl Out footage, that's no sure thing.
 
Sure does apply to Raw. But they also have proven draws in their back pocket. No Cody, No Seth, No Rhea, No Punk, No Bloodline. Put any of those people on the show and you're probably looking at a better rating.

Thats a lot of star power missing, AEW can only hope that Kenny and MJF can bring some of their lost audience back. But considering they couldn't retain the audience they got from airing the Brawl Out footage, that's no sure thing.
Like I said, for them to hit the numbers of 2021, WWE has to go cold again. It's absolutely reciprocal.

There were definitely AEW viewers that were just waiting for WWE to get good again and now they're good again, they dipped. That's just the business.
 
"Just there" is false. Okada had a belt put on him within 2 weeks, Will and Mercedes are also challenging for titles already. You can say they're not in world title programs or whatever but there's no need to be dishonest lol.
There are 4 secondary titles though. Everyone has a title. Mox has a title thats not even from their company. Swerve was wrestling a guy who has a title from a promotion thats not even on TV.

What's the point of the Continental title that Okada has? The G1 gets you a shot at WrestleKingdom, what does the Continental do for the winner? The FTW title? The International title? The TNT title?
 
There are 4 secondary titles though. Everyone has a title. Mox has a title thats not even from their company. Swerve was wrestling a guy who has a title from a promotion thats not even on TV.

What's the point of the Continental title that Okada has? The G1 gets you a shot at WrestleKingdom, what does the Continental do for the winner? The FTW title? The International title? The TNT title?
What does any of this have to do with anything though? This doesn't change the fact that they're already in title pictures.

There's no way you're asking me this in good faith when the C2 just happened.
 
If Okada was at the E and had the IC or US put on him already, would we actually be having this discussion?

Please knock it off.
 
I told yall this shit months ago and the Aew-vengers tried to play it off like I was trolling.

Shit is bad. Fuck a fake evaluation or star ratings or whatever else Tony is trying to bolster his spirit with. We can all see it. They can't give tickets away to their homecoming show. Ratings are sinking like a rock. The only way they could even pop a rating was by destroying kayfabe and showing CM Punk chump out the guy who they are closing the show with.

People who have interacted with the show have decided to stop watching. Thats not because of WWE. Thats because people don't like what AEW is presenting. And most troublesome is those people are then shouted down for their legimate criticism. Gatekeeping in AEW spaces is fucking nuts. It's like Star Wars level with a fraction of the success. Tony Khan needs to pass the sticks and get a competent booker in there to actually craft a compelling narrative. Because it's proven what he is selling, people aren't buying. Literally.
 
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