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Documentary Accusing MJ of Child Abuse Premiering At Sundance

Famous for being a predator?

That's why he's famous?
But people didn't try to take him down and they lived with knowing this? A few threats and that's it. How many accusers came forward vs people speaking highly of him?
How many people worked with him but only now pretend to want to step away?
Sounds familiar.
Yet ....here we are. Nothing done about it and cases getting dropped

And @SneakDZA what did his doc prove? How was he painted? Call whatever asinine but that don't mean it makes it any less true.
 
What's not true about what I said? You wrote "I feel like this was fluff to say he has a doc too" which is flat-out asinine.



Most people in the world don't keep up with who the bigwig Hollywood producers are. Weinstien is FAMOUS for being a sexual assaulter at this point.
He is famous for using his position at the most important person in Hollywood ....to sexually abuse women ...that’s the whole point of this shit
 
the difference between this and Rkelly, harvey weinstein, bill cosby, etc is that MJ had his day in court already. Plus the fact this wade dumbass already admitted nothing happened. Didnt Corey Feldman, who actually HAS been mollested by a ton of hollywood types, also say that he liked being around MJ because he was the one who DIDNT do anything to him?

But IDK man. Im not sure MJ was this confused ass kid like everyone says. Kids dont scheme how to get Beatles publishings and shit. But I still dont think that he was a pedophile. Gay? Possibly. Bisexual? You could make an argument I guess. But pedo? I cant see it.
 
the difference between this and Rkelly, harvey weinstein, bill cosby, etc is that MJ had his day in court already. Plus the fact this wade dumbass already admitted nothing happened.

But IDK man. Im not sure MJ was this confused ass kid like everyone says. Kids dont scheme how to get Beatles publishings and shit. But I still dont think that he was a pedophile. Gay? Possibly. Bisexual? You could make an argument I guess. But pedo? I cant see it.
Co-sign but this the environment we in...famous or infamous by any means...this Wade Robson character is something else...
 
and dont get me wrong, i do think that MJ was crazy in a lot of ways, probably liked toys a little too much, and I firmly believe at least one of his kids is Marlon Brando's. i just dont think he would hurt kids like that.

If anything, MJ in a lot of ways was the whole sensitive male image that women today are looking for before it was even famous. Sensitive guy, slow to anger, etc. He was as far awaty from toxic masculinity as a guy could ever be.
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joevog...new-michael-jackson-documentary/#e686f28640fa

Disclaimer: this article is not intended as a review of Leaving Neverland, which I have not seen, but rather of the context behind the allegations in the documentary.

When Michael Jackson died in 2009, Wade Robson—the former choreographer whose allegations of abuse are at the center of a controversial new documentary, Leaving Neverland—wrote in tribute to his friend:

Michael Jackson changed the world and, more personally, my life forever. He is the reason I dance, the reason I make music, and one of the main reasons I believe in the pure goodness of humankind. He has been a close friend of mine for 20 years. His music, his movement, his personal words of inspiration and encouragement and his unconditional love will live inside of me forever. I will miss him immeasurably, but I know that he is now at peace and enchanting the heavens with a melody and a moonwalk.





Robson was twenty-seven years old at the time. Four years earlier, he testified at Jackson’s 2005 trial (as an adult) that nothing sexual ever happened between them. Prior to the trial Robson hadn’t seen Jackson for years and was under no obligation to be a witness for the defense. He faced a withering cross-examination, understanding the penalty of perjury for lying under oath. But Robson adamantly, confidently, and credibly asserted that nothing sexual ever happened.

What changed between then and now? A few things:


  • In 2011, Robson approached John Branca, co-executor of the Michael Jackson Estate, about directing the new Michael Jackson/Cirque du Soleil production, ONE. Robson admitted he wanted the job “badly,” but the Estate ultimately chose someone else for the position.
  • In 2012, Robson had a nervous breakdown, triggered, he said, by an obsessive quest for success. His career, in his own words, began to “crumble.”
  • That same year, with Robson’s career, finances, and marriage in peril, he began shopping a book that claimed he was sexually abused by Michael Jackson. No publisher picked it up.
  • In 2013, Robson filed a $1.5 billion dollar civil lawsuit/creditor’s claim, along with James Safechuck, who also spent time with Jackson in the late ‘80s. Safechuck claimed he only realized he may have been abused when Robson filed his lawsuit. That lawsuit was dismissed by a probate court in 2017.
  • In 2019, the Sundance Film Festival premiered a documentary based entirely on Robson and Safechuck's allegations. While the documentary is obviously emotionally disturbing given the content, it presents no new evidence or witnesses. The film's director, Dan Reed, acknowledged not wanting to interview other key figures because it might complicate or compromise the story he wanted to tell.
It is tempting for the media to tie Jackson into a larger cultural narrative about sexual misconduct. R. Kelly was rightfully taken down by a documentary, and many other high-profile figures have been exposed in recent years, so surely, the logic goes, Michael Jackson must be guilty as well. Yet that is a dangerous leap—particularly with America's history of unjustly targeting and convicting black men—that fair-minded people would be wise to consider more carefully before condemning the artist. It is no accident that one of Jackson’s favorite books (and movies) was To Kill a Mockingbird, a story about a black man—Tom Robinson—destroyed by false allegations.

The media’s largely uncritical, de-contextualized takes out of Sundance seem to have forgotten: no allegations have been more publicly scrutinized than those against Michael Jackson. They elicited a two-year feeding frenzy in the mid-90s and then again in the mid-2000s, when Jackson faced an exhaustive criminal trial. His homes were ransacked in two unannounced raids by law enforcement. Nothing incriminating was found. Jackson was acquitted of all charges in 2005 by a conservative Santa Maria jury. The FBI, likewise, conducted a thorough investigation. Its 300-page file on the pop star, released under the Freedom of Information Act, found no evidence of wrongdoing.

Meanwhile, dozens of individuals who spent time with Jackson as kids continue to assert nothing sexual ever happened. This includes hundreds of sick and terminally ill children such as Bela Farkas (for whom Jackson paid for a life-saving liver transplant) and Ryan White (whom Jackson befriended and supported in his final years battling AIDS); it includes lesser-known figures like Brett Barnes and Frank Cascio; it includes celebrities like Macaulay Culkin, Sean Lennon, Emmanuel Lewis, Alfonso Ribeiro, and Corey Feldman; it includes Jackson’s nieces and nephews; and it includes his own three children.

The allegations surrounding Jackson largely faded over the past decade for a reason: unlike the Bill Cosby or R. Kelly cases, the more people looked into the Jackson allegations, the more the evidence vindicated him. The prosecution’s case in 2005 was so absurd Rolling Stone‘s Matt Taibbi described it like this:

Ostensibly a story about bringing a child molester to justice, the Michael Jackson trial would instead be a kind of homecoming parade of insipid American types: grifters, suckers and no-talent schemers, mired in either outright unemployment… or the bogus non-careers of the information age, looking to cash in any way they can. The MC of the proceedings was District Attorney Tom Sneddon, whose metaphorical role in this American reality show was to represent the mean gray heart of the Nixonian Silent Majority – the bitter mediocrity itching to stick it to anyone who’d ever taken a vacation to Paris. The first month or so of the trial featured perhaps the most compromised collection of prosecution witnesses ever assembled in an American criminal case – almost to a man a group of convicted liars, paid gossip hawkers or worse…

In the next six weeks, virtually every piece of his case imploded in open court, and the chief drama of the trial quickly turned into a race to see if the DA could manage to put all of his witnesses on the stand without getting any of them removed from the courthouse in manacles.

What’s changed since then?

In Robson’s case, decades after the alleged incidents took place, he was barbecuing with Michael Jackson and his children. He was asking for ticketsto the artist’s memorial. He was participating in tributes. “I still have my mobile phone with his number in it,” Robson wrote in 2009, “I just can’t bear the thought of deleting his messages.”

Then, suddenly, after twenty years, his story changed and with his new claims came a $1.5 billion dollar lawsuit.

As an eccentric, wealthy, African American man, Michael Jackson has always been a target for litigation. During the 1980s and 1990s, dozens of women falsely claimed he was the father of their children. He faced multiple lawsuits falsely claiming he plagiarized various songs. As recently as 2010, a woman named Billie Jean filed a frivolous $600 million paternity lawsuit against Jackson’s Estate.

As someone who has done an enormous amount of research on the artist, interviewed many people who were close to him, and been granted access to a lot of private information, my assessment is that the evidence simply does not point to Michael Jackson's guilt. In contrast to Robson and Safechuck’s revised accounts, there is a remarkable consistency to the way people who knew the artist speak of him—whether friends, family members, collaborators, fellow artists, recording engineers, attorneys, business associates, security guards, former spouses, his own children—people who knew him in every capacity imaginable. Michael, they say, was gentle, brilliant, sensitive, sometimes naive, sometimes childish, sometimes oblivious to perceptions. But none believe he was a child molester.
 

needs its own thread....and we need to at all the people who was hardcore only rkelly...stop distracting dude.....and bring up more about the non existent untouchable doc about wienstein just to prove that it was fake outrage and them niggas dont really care about pedos or protecting black women and girls.
 
needs its own thread....and we need to at all the people who was hardcore only rkelly...stop distracting dude.....and bring up more about the non existent untouchable doc about wienstein just to prove that it was fake outrage and them niggas dont really care about pedos or protecting black women and girls.
They don’t give a fuck about black girls or black women. They’re only goal is to shit on black men and use certain men as proxies.
 
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