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BNE said:
yes. am I a mother to a baby when my child is an adult? no.

child's mother is a more accurate term.
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Oh you're one of those people who think of a real baby when a nigga calls u baby, oh ok, gotcha
 
TheMasterKey said:
It does change the "flaws" you pointed out because you can't say the bm served no point in the movie when her role was pivotal lol
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Know you're putting words in my mouth, I didn't say she wasn't pivotal, I said she was simply there to drive the plot along. It's like in those movies where a there's an important item a character has to hold on to but a bird or some shit comes and snatches it. Like why of all things to grab i.e. food like a real bird would grab does the fictional bird grab the important item?

You get what I'm saying here, she's simply there to drive the plot along
 
Joshua 3:16 said:
I just tackled the nam part of the movie, so I'll cover the heist part of the movie.

His girls sister is supposed to be on the black empowerment tip and all that, but she's down for a heist and not only that but through violent means. It makes no sense that someone who's heavily into black empowerment would want to willingly put themselves in that position. And sure you could argue poverty but she seemed to living pretty nice to me, she had their childhood home while the sister with the kid was staying in a roach infested apartment. So not only was her character's motivations inconsistent but the main character's daughter and bm are just there for the sake of moving the plot along (a burden on the main character) and not there to add any depth.

Neither him nor his latino friend use any of their training from the military to acquire a job when they went to civilian life, he was in a spec ops unit and settled for a job as a butcher, which again conveniently sets up the his motivation for the heist. He didn't even try to live move back in with his parents or his bm's sister. He just went straight into a life of crime. Again more inconsistent behavior that only serves to move the plot along.

Then comes the heist, they include a drug head (chris tucker), the fucked up preacher's son (Trumpet player from the ray charles movie), and his dumb friend who got hurt by his own grenade in nam (his childhood latino friend. All fuck ups

Again the main character his military experience in a spec ops squad and these are the people chose to pull of a heist with, not only him but the dude with 1 leg spent time in the military as well and they were both cool with it. Like wtf kinda shit is that?

Don't even get me started in his dumb ass pyromaniac friend who burned most of the money.......

To end the foolishness off they never skipped town and gtfo of dodge, they stayed in the city and got caught because of the crazy ass preacher's son.
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bruh you willlllllding....

first of all she was mad young....

dude got shortty pregnant before he left for the war.....

he was 17-18 tops....

so when he came home... his daughter was mad young.....i forget how old exactly but unde 5 for sure...
meaning that he was 22..23 at the oldest....

his girl's little sister.....was even younger...

we're talking a 18-20 revolutionary.....

mad impressionable....it took nothing to recruit her to be a revolutionary, and it takes nothing to recruit her for a robbery...she's young, and angry as all black folk during this time were, and she was antsy to prove herself

her character makes 100%

i don't know if you've ever planned a robbery before.... but.....imma jsut say.....it ain't like you gonna get a bunch of professionals rushing up......

drug addicts are often your go to...especially on a first time...
shit shit went bad because it was designed to go bad.....

it wasn't supposed to be a great or smart robbery.. it was supposed to be an act of desperation by a person in an impossible situation...

the only reason the movie worked because the plan had so many holes in it...

if it was a smart and successful robbery. there is no tragic story to tell
 
Joshua 3:16 said:
Know you're putting words in my mouth, I didn't say she wasn't pivotal, I said she was simply there to drive the plot along. It's like in those movies where a there's an important item a character has to hold on to but a bird or some shit comes and snatches it. Like why of all things to grab i.e. food like a real bird would grab does the fictional bird grab the important item?

You get what I'm saying here, she's simply there to drive the plot along
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I don't think she was just there to push the story along lol, coming back from war and your whole world changing was a real thing and the most important thing to a man is his woman and child... a child that he doesn't even know is his lol Mannn, u gotta stop trollin b
 
BNE said:
no, I'm not. a romantic partner calling u a pet name is a completely different topic from a parent's description of a child. that's a false equvialency.

I wouldn't use baby to describe my adult child. I might lovingly call them my baby, cuz that's a term of affection, but I wouldn't refer to the child as a baby when trying to accurately describe my affiliation to another person.

people use the term babymama/babydaddy for people who are still together - basically just an unmarried couple with a kid/s.

people use the term babymama/babydaddy for people who don't actually have babies anymore.

people use the term babymama/babydaddy for people who r no longer together but currently co-parent.

people use the term babydaddy/babymama when one party might not even be involved with the kid/s (ex. calling deadbeats babydaddies).

the term says very little beyond "share a kid" n I'm surprised it gained traction.
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You're missing the point, babymama/daddy is a slang word, it wasn't meant to be taken literal.
 
TheMasterKey said:
I don't think she was just there to push the story along lol, coming back from war and your whole world changing was a real thing and the most important thing to a man is his woman and child... a child that he doesn't even know is his lol Mannn, u gotta stop trollin b
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Lol you keep trolling I'm serious, everything I said in the quote is true about the movie.
 
King Du said:
bruh you willlllllding....

first of all she was mad young....

dude got shortty pregnant before he left for the war.....

he was 17-18 tops....

so when he came home... his daughter was mad young.....i forget how old exactly but unde 5 for sure...
meaning that he was 22..23 at the oldest....

his girl's little sister.....was even younger...

we're talking a 18-20 revolutionary.....

mad impressionable....it took nothing to recruit her to be a revolutionary, and it takes nothing to recruit her for a robbery...she's young, and angry as all black folk during this time were, and she was antsy to prove herself

her character makes 100%

i don't know if you've ever planned a robbery before.... but.....imma jsut say.....it ain't like you gonna get a bunch of professionals rushing up......

drug addicts are often your go to...especially on a first time...
shit shit went bad because it was designed to go bad.....

it wasn't supposed to be a great or smart robbery.. it was supposed to be an act of desperation by a person in an impossible situation...

the only reason the movie worked because the plan had so many holes in it...

if it was a smart and successful robbery. there is no tragic story to tell
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No you're just making excuses for the plot, if they where so young then why didn't the movie spend anytime highlighting that? And where was there mother during all of this. When he comes back home his bm's mom is never shown again.

Also how do we know that the sister was "mad" impressionable? Again it's never conveyed in the film, they just make the characters do whatever serves the plot and moves the movie along which causes the glaring inconsistencies I pointed out.

Again it's not a very well told story.
 
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Joshua 3:16 said:
No you're just making excuses for the plot, if they where so young then why didn't the movie spend anytime highlighting that? And where was there mother during all of this. When he comes back home his bm's mom is never shown again.

Also how do we know that the sister was "mad" impressionable? Again it's never conveyed in the film, they just make the characters do whatever serves the plot and moves the movie along which causes the glaring inconsistencies I pointed out.

Again it's not a very well told story.
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bruh....

stop...

they painted the hell outta the little sister...

she had a crush on him when he was dating her big sister....that part was illustrated through several scenes...when he came home she still had affections for him, but you could see she was trying to maintain character with the revolutionary stuff...

good movies don't have to spell everything out, they give you enough of the charter that you can easily fill in holes...the way she was looking at dude told a whole lot about why she was so willing to ride for him......

you the only one reaching....the movie told a great story...

you just trying to go against the grain to show off your wit....

dead presidents was a great movie fam.....
 
King Du said:
bruh....

stop...

they painted the hell outta the little sister...

she had a crush on him when he was dating her big sister....that part was illustrated through several scenes...when he came home she still had affections for him, but you could see she was trying to maintain character with the revolutionary stuff...

good movies don't have to spell everything out, they give you enough of the charter that you can easily fill in holes...the way she was looking at dude told a whole lot about why she was so willing to ride for him......

you the only one reaching....the movie told a great story...

you just trying to go against the grain to show off your wit....

dead presidents was a great movie fam.....
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I'm not being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, if you feel that DP is a great movie that's you. But imo with what I pointed out, it's not what I would consider a good movie.
 
BNE said:
I love the debate y'all are having. I used to read imdb boards for this but then those hoes locked n deleted them. saddening.
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I agree, tho I disagree with Josh, it's good to see mfs who can having opposing opinions on something and intelligently debate the subject.
 
and the preacher story ardc was insane as i explained earlier...

not to sound obnoxious or nuffin, but shit like that really stands out to me cuz i'm still experimenting with character types when writing myself...

he you got a preacher's son....the supposed good and wholesome bible thumper who became complete animal over in the war...collecting ears and body parts....like he seriously lost it....

and then came back home and pretended that it never happened and hops back in the church like he wasn't just a serial killer...


i love how everybody saw right through the facade that he tried to hold onto...but yet he was still willing to rob the reserve....

and he froze....him freezing was fucking amazing man......that scene where chris tucker punched him was fucking ridiculous...

especially considering tucker was usually the ily plucky sidekick, and boookeem traditionally plays the savage.....that shit was just poetic

then he's giving out $100 bills saying god gave it to him.....start snitching when the cops got him....

dude.....that character alone is worth the price of admission sometimes...i loved that shit
 
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