OPINION Contradictions and Lies! Exposing the Democratic Party

SeaSnake said:
Just said feminists are bad no examples no science. But then I gotta have a scholar backed essay.
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Black Feminists are good in what way? Where's your science and proof?

I gave you an example brotha.

Black Male and Female Feminists Fighting Only for Black Women is good for who? when we all supposed to fight for one another?

Brotha, this not how that work, we did not move like this in the 1950s brotha, We moved together, Ask yo paw pa and Madea.
 
AP4.0 said:
I think czar explained it pretty good the first time.

It was there attempt to engage with the younger voting base. Was it tone deaf? Maybe. It definitely missed the mark but if you are trying to throw some shit together in 6 months, bringing out Meg and quavo to speak to that part of the base isn't so far fetched
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6 months to plan would be a halfway viable excuse if we didn't already have "if u don't vote for me u ain't black" and "hot sauce in my bag"

Seems odd that they are consistently tone deaf no matter how much time they have to prepare
 
Knock_Twice said:
That's all what I, and Mr. BFK was stating, from reading his posts. I can't take you serious now (I didn't before) that you're bringing out someone like a Cardi, Meg and Glo to try and grab votes
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How long have you watched election campaigns cause it feels like you're not reading to understand.

Last question about this particular part of discussion

What do you think the Puff vote or die campaign was all about?
 
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Knock_Twice said:
Yes I am on record for reparations.

Cube plans did not include reparations. I am not 100% sure. But let's say that it did not include reparations. His plan had things that would have helped Black America, exclusive for us. No other group could touch what was in that plan, then I would have considered voting for whoever was going to put Cube's plan into play.
Cube actually sat down with the likes of a Claude Anderson and others who understands what Black Natives need.
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Fam cubes plan would not have worked on a federal level cause we simply do not have the numbers for this to be a thing

His plan absolutely could work in local municipalities and shit cause those areas can be segregated af.

Think when killer Mike was on the breakfast club talking about the blocks of black subdivisions where you can have black local everything. So if they are the primary or exclusive voting base, you can absolutely have black only shit that will only benefit them or rather largely benefit them
 
ChicagoFigure said:
6 months to plan would be a halfway viable excuse if we didn't already have "if u don't vote for me u ain't black" and "hot sauce in my bag"

Seems odd that they are consistently tone deaf no matter how much time they have to prepare
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Agreed

Czar and Blackrain have said this more than a few times
 
I can't remember how old I was when Puff vote or die shit was but I do know I didn't give a shit about politics before then but then it was everywhere and you couldn't escape it (just looked it up, 2004. I was 21/22)

For the first time in my life, I was somewhat remotely interested in politics.

Look at that Wikipedia says the goal of the campaign was:

Citizen Change is a political service group, founded in 2004 by rapper Sean Combs, and backed by musical artists Mary J. Blige, Mariah Carey and 50 Cent.[1] The stated aim was to get young people and minorities to vote.[2]

IDK man. Sounds like what they were trying to do with Meg and glo but...
 
AP4.0 said:
How long have you watched election campaigns cause it feels like you're not reading to understand.

Last question about this particular part of discussion

What do you think the Puff vote or die campaign was all about?
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Can you tell us what the Puff vote or die campaign was about?

Never mind you took Wiki explanation, I thought that you actually knew.

As I stated, pandering from the Dems won't get black voters to the polls going forward.
 
Knock_Twice said:
Can you tell us what the Puff vote or die campaign was about?

Never mind you took Wiki explanation, I thought that you actually knew.

As I stated, pandering from the Dems won't get black voters to the polls going forward.
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I knew what it was from jump

Used wiki to confirm

And again, I will concede they have to do better than what they have been doing

More people have agreed with this part of your position than you like to acknowledge
 
I'm not sure why you guys are playing along with this conversation as if Meg & Quavo were the only celebrity endorsements for Harris. This shit is cherry-picking at it's finest. Also, people pretending like they don't know how celebrity endorsements work all of a sudden are crazy disingenuous.

And don't get me started on the white guy who somehow wants to convince us that the party with outright white supremacists policies is somehow exactly the same as the party where some broad said she had hot sauce in her damn pocket over a decade ago. The irony of talking about people being consistently tone-deaf is not lost on me.
 
ChicagoFigure said:
It doesn't say something to u that the Dems have this loyal voting demo every cycle and are incapable of not being extremely tone deaf?

Whereas maga can throw subtle dog whistles and all the hate groups get on code.

Why do u think that is?
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Hmmm

I think maga didn't just pop up out of thin air. I think maga has always been maga, they just didn't have a name for it and by and large suppressed their feelings and thoughts to largely keep them contained among each other.

I also think the current version of the Democrats thinks the Democrats they grew up with are still the same age and haven't realized those people have only a couple more voting cycles left which is why they think they are still speaking to the same audience as the ones from the Clinton years.
 
AP4.0 said:
Hmmm

I think maga didn't just pop up out of thin air. I think maga has always been maga, they just didn't have a name for it and by and large suppressed their feelings and thoughts to largely keep them contained among each other.

I also think the current version of the Democrats thinks the Democrats they grew up with are still the same age and haven't realized those people have only a couple more voting cycles left which is why they think they are still speaking to the same audience as the ones from the Clinton years.
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Bingo,

And that's why (me) I don't see them getting that 18-45 black crowd to get behind them. That black crowd, wants something for black folks ONLY, call it single voter etc etc, but that's how these folks are moving, whether it's reparations, whether it's a hate crime bill for black people, but something will have to be only for black folks going forward if the Dems want that voting block to be active.

That block will just fade away imo. That crowd also are listening to your podcasters, who are also in that age bracket, and those podcasters are injecting political knowledge into the minds of these folks to have them look at these candidates and make them earn your vote.
That;s why I encourage folks to start listening to these podcasters, hate them or not, they are getting your voters, even the opposing sides are listening to these folks. See what folks are saying and how they are viewing both parties.

Black folks from that 18-45 crowd are not truly fucking with the Dems or Reps. Especially the Dems

Everything is shifted and will be from here on out.

Fried Catfish Nuggets and Megan on stage won't cut it no more
 
Knock_Twice said:
Black Feminists are good in what way? Where's your science and proof?

I gave you an example brotha.

Black Male and Female Feminists Fighting Only for Black Women is good for who? when we all supposed to fight for one another?

Brotha, this not how that work, we did not move like this in the 1950s brotha, We moved together, Ask yo paw pa and Madea.
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They don’t just fight for women. It’s overall about a better society. Not division but you view it that way because women have a plan and want their needs addressed. Have you even looked into why black women feel the way they do?
 
SeaSnake said:
They don’t just fight for women. It’s overall about a better society. Not division but you view it that way because women have a plan and want their needs addressed. Have you even looked into why black women feel the way they do?
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If they fight for everybody, then why are we calling them feminist?

Black women and black men need to be fighting for one another brotha.

2 Black women feel this way, I can find 2 black men that feel the same way?

Have you looked into why heterosexual black men suffer in silence? etc etc. I used heterosexual because you inserted "gay men" to say that feminist fight for men in my opinion, you went to the gay men route. You had to say that because feminist don't fight for heterosexual men

We all have problems brotha, but you want to focus it on just black women and "gay men" (that's who you deem as feminist fighting for imo) No brotha. We all are under this white supremacy banner
 
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