OPINION Contradictions and Lies! Exposing the Democratic Party

ChicagoFigure said:
I know it's early af but just outta curiosity who wants to see Kamala run again and/or are there other names u are paying attention to right now u may consider?
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Would love to see as many candidates as possible to give enough time to present their plans

Because it's still going to be dems and Republicans, my hope is that the Democrats finally get on the same page and get behind a candidate that actually has teeth and give them time to do the aforementioned.

I don't wanna see 30 Democrats running for president. I want all of them to decide who's going to be the main draw then decide who will hold cabinet positions beforehand instead of after the fact
 
AP4.0 said:
Would love to see as many candidates as possible to give enough time to present their plans

Because it's still going to be dems and Republicans, my hope is that the Democrats finally get on the same page and get behind a candidate that actually has teeth and give them time to do the aforementioned.

I don't wanna see 30 Democrats running for president. I want all of them to decide who's going to be the main draw then decide who will hold cabinet positions beforehand instead of after the fact
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The problem is the shit they tend to pick as a main issue doesn't always resonate with what people actually want, and if they do pick a good issue their messaging tends to be lackluster

Policies can be great but if you cant find a way to convey that to people it ain't gonna win elections
 
Inori said:
The problem is the shit they tend to pick as a main issue doesn't always resonate with what people actually want, and if they do pick a good issue their messaging tends to be lackluster

Policies can be great but if you cant find a way to convey that to people it ain't gonna win elections
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Right

This is why I'm hoping they go in with a clear vision from a macro level then with everyone settling on cabinet positions early, they can implement shit to the micro level
 
Inori said:
The problem is the shit they tend to pick as a main issue doesn't always resonate with what people actually want, and if they do pick a good issue their messaging tends to be lackluster

Policies can be great but if you cant find a way to convey that to people it ain't gonna win elections
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There's a larger point here that could be made about how folks thinking social science degrees and studies are worthless til you realize how shitty people are at communicating ideas to people and being able to or not being able to analyze certain things results in simple messages being misunderstood or easily being able to mislead people
 
AP4.0 said:
Right

This is why I'm hoping they go in with a clear vision from a macro level then with everyone settling on cabinet positions early, they can implement shit to the micro level
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Agree, but some people just can’t seem to grasp strategic thinking. They wait on this mystical perfect candidate that checks every box, even if the boxes are contradictory.
 
let's get this straight tho since ya'll like to make ur arguments by twisting someone else's words

I stated that I didn't think having Kamala in office would be better.....that was in consideration of all the obstacles she would have had to overcome to get anything done

for the record ya'll mofos spent ur time in here arguing with me trying to convince me otherwise........I never said anything but my opinion




yet mofos made excuses for her losing and preaching about her great policies

yet no one is a professed Kamala supporter for 2028

mofos calling me contrarian but it seems like ya'll were the ones arguing just to argue




ol girl was never a strong desired candidate.....and to me what good is a "great" policy if u can't even get into office to implement it

but keep defending someone indefensible for the sake of winning on a message board 😂
 
Mr BFK said:
let's get this straight tho since ya'll like to make ur arguments by twisting someone else's words

I stated that I didn't think having Kamala in office would be better.....that was in consideration of all the obstacles she would have had to overcome to get anything done

for the record ya'll mofos spent ur time in here arguing with me trying to convince me otherwise........I never said anything but my opinion




yet mofos made excuses for her losing and preaching about her great policies

yet no one is a professed Kamala supporter for 2028

mofos calling me contrarian but it seems like ya'll were the ones arguing just to argue




ol girl was never a strong desired candidate.....and to me what good is a "great" policy if u can't even get into office to implement it

but keep defending someone indefensible for the sake of winning on a message board 😂
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Some folks are living in fear. Not all.

As I said. Going back to point A won't get folks (most black folks) off the couch.
Allowing illegals into this country, etc etc and etc. That living at this point A, and black folks still at the bottom is over past due. I aint going back..



If we not hollering what C looks like, which i want reparations, they all can kiss my ass and I'll continue to enjoy these 30 or so 40 summers I may have left on this side

Now we are at Point B and everybody is suffering. I don't mind that at all. Let us all suffe, instead of just black folks
 
Knock_Twice said:
Some folks are living in fear. Not all.

As I said. Going back to point A won't get folks (most black folks) off the couch.
Allowing illegals into this country, etc etc and etc. That living at this point, and black folks still at the bottom is over past due. I aint going back..


If we not hollering what C looks like, which i want reparations, they all can kiss my ass and I'll continue to enjoy these 30 or so 40 summers I may have left on this side
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But Trump is pushing America way back, lol
 
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Mr BFK said:
let's get this straight tho since ya'll like to make ur arguments by twisting someone else's words

I stated that I didn't think having Kamala in office would be better.....that was in consideration of all the obstacles she would have had to overcome to get anything done

for the record ya'll mofos spent ur time in here arguing with me trying to convince me otherwise........I never said anything but my opinion




yet mofos made excuses for her losing and preaching about her great policies

yet no one is a professed Kamala supporter for 2028

mofos calling me contrarian but it seems like ya'll were the ones arguing just to argue




ol girl was never a strong desired candidate.....and to me what good is a "great" policy if u can't even get into office to implement it

but keep defending someone indefensible for the sake of winning on a message board 😂
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Not one person said you not entitled to your opinion. You're just being told it's wrong and you can't seem to actually counter it with anything tangible other than your feelings
 
Mr BFK said:
let's get this straight tho since ya'll like to make ur arguments by twisting someone else's words

I stated that I didn't think having Kamala in office would be better.....that was in consideration of all the obstacles she would have had to overcome to get anything done

for the record ya'll mofos spent ur time in here arguing with me trying to convince me otherwise........I never said anything but my opinion




yet mofos made excuses for her losing and preaching about her great policies

yet no one is a professed Kamala supporter for 2028

mofos calling me contrarian but it seems like ya'll were the ones arguing just to argue




ol girl was never a strong desired candidate.....and to me what good is a "great" policy if u can't even get into office to implement it

but keep defending someone indefensible for the sake of winning on a message board 😂
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Bruh... if everybody in a room is telling you you're not getting it right... you might need to either change your mind, change the subject or change the room.

You're showing no signs of actually listening to anybody's points which are pretty obvious.

People here generally don't like Kamala but most of us know and knew she as president would be way better than Trump for most individuals living in this country. You're still here talking about the damn campaign trail like any of that shit ever mattered. Sometimes you gotta pick a fucking side.
 
Mr BFK said:
let's get this straight tho since ya'll like to make ur arguments by twisting someone else's words

I stated that I didn't think having Kamala in office would be better.....that was in consideration of all the obstacles she would have had to overcome to get anything done

for the record ya'll mofos spent ur time in here arguing with me trying to convince me otherwise........I never said anything but my opinion




yet mofos made excuses for her losing and preaching about her great policies

yet no one is a professed Kamala supporter for 2028

mofos calling me contrarian but it seems like ya'll were the ones arguing just to argue




ol girl was never a strong desired candidate.....and to me what good is a "great" policy if u can't even get into office to implement it

but keep defending someone indefensible for the sake of winning on a message board 😂
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Dog

We are all talking in hindsight. At least that's what I thought.

You still keep saying, I guess in hindsight that Kamala still wasn't a better choice than Trump?? Fuck them fumbling the campaign. The metrics we are using were the proposed policies and it shouldn't be up for debate who out of her and Trump had the better policies.

The issue it seems is you don't like her as a candidate regardless of what policies she was campaigning on.

I'll do you a favor. I don't like Anthony Mackie for no other reason than that nigga has a punchable face but I supported every Disney project he was in cause I liked what he represented as a black actor in Hollywood and realizing how long he was grinding to get to where he at.

It's ok to not like Kamala for reasons but to sit here and say her policies (which you admit you were not versed in...)were not better than Trump's concepts of policies is beyond wild.

Yes, what good is a great policy if niggas stay at home cause she not talking about reparations

What good is a great policy if niggas don't like the fact she's a woman

How can she get elected if niggas don't vote for her to implement the great policies

Why is this so difficult to grasp fam?
 
TheNightKing said:
But Trump is going pushing America way back, lol
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Lol.
I think what's being missed is everyone is catching hell. Not just black folks.

Kamala, under her, point A, blacks would have been catching it.

Point B, everyone is feeling Trump wrath now.

Point C, reparations to get that 18 -45 year old black voting block off the couch.

They are not voting for Point A.
I dont see that age demographic in the streets complaining.
Many are living their lives.
 
Mr BFK said:
let's get this straight tho since ya'll like to make ur arguments by twisting someone else's words

I stated that I didn't think having Kamala in office would be better.....that was in consideration of all the obstacles she would have had to overcome to get anything done

for the record ya'll mofos spent ur time in here arguing with me trying to convince me otherwise........I never said anything but my opinion




yet mofos made excuses for her losing and preaching about her great policies

yet no one is a professed Kamala supporter for 2028

mofos calling me contrarian but it seems like ya'll were the ones arguing just to argue




ol girl was never a strong desired candidate.....and to me what good is a "great" policy if u can't even get into office to implement it

but keep defending someone indefensible for the sake of winning on a message board 😂
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Again we said she would’ve been a stronger candidate given more time she had 6 month campaign run and that the shortest I’ve heard of. Just because we don’t want to vote for her again does not mean we don’t vote for her before because the other option was the cracker. Had she ran against Obama of course not.

But we all know we wouldn’t be as bad off compared to what it is today. Not a hard concept
 
Knock_Twice said:
Some folks are living in fear. Not all.

As I said. Going back to point A won't get folks (most black folks) off the couch.
Allowing illegals into this country, etc etc and etc. That living at this point A, and black folks still at the bottom is over past due. I aint going back..



If we not hollering what C looks like, which i want reparations, they all can kiss my ass and I'll continue to enjoy these 30 or so 40 summers I may have left on this side

Now we are at Point B and everybody is suffering. I don't mind that at all. Let us all suffe, instead of just black folks
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I realized you one of those contrary niggas. Like if you see 100 niggas doing something you have to be the one who ain’t doing it. And not because you different it just to be contrary. Yall ain’t made no argument that makes voting outside the Democratic Party reasonable for the black community.
 
SeaSnake said:
I realized you one of those contrary niggas. Like if you see 100 niggas doing something you have to be the one who ain’t doing it. And not because you different it just to be contrary. Yall ain’t made no argument that makes voting outside the Democratic Party reasonable for the black community.
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Man if you wanna vote, vote. Just don't point your finger at those who choose not to vote.

Whatever the outcome it is, blame your candidate for either losing or cheer them on for winning, not the ppl who didn't participate in the game.

Again. Vote with confidence or vote in fear.

Just don't fuss at the people who decide not to participate in a mess up system.

And folks are choosing to sit things out and wait for something to change or just let everyone suffer and not just their people.

We all get to share this pain that black folks been getting under this world wide system, now it falls on everybody and their mama.
Folks can't hide no more and skate on by or use our pain for gain...nah..come on and get some of this fucked up white supremacy.


Hahaha haha
Pain has no color...hahaha
Let me stop but yall should get the message


Simple
 
SeaSnake said:
I realized you one of those contrary niggas. Like if you see 100 niggas doing something you have to be the one who ain’t doing it. And not because you different it just to be contrary. Yall ain’t made no argument that makes voting outside the Democratic Party reasonable for the black community.
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I have to disagree. If I see 100 niggas doing something positive, Ill be the 1st to lend my support.

Folks are leaving the democratic party for their own reasons, either sitting out and playing the wait game while everybody gets hit with white supremacy or folks are just living life and not worrying about whats to come

Voting is not going to make the world a better place for you and me breh.

Im not even sure if you even know what you want a President to do at this point lol.

Everything has been fucked up for so long that you and others i believe think we had it good.
Smh.
The world is a ghetto
 
I do want to know, if Kamala ran on the same policies for 2028, would folks vote for her to be their primary?

She'll have more time to try and win
 
Knock_Twice said:
Man if you wanna vote, vote. Just don't point your finger at those who choose not to vote.

Whatever the outcome it is, blame your candidate for either losing or cheer them on for winning, not the ppl who didn't participate in the game.

Again. Vote with confidence or vote in fear.

Just don't fuss at the people who decide not to participate in a mess up system.

And folks are choosing to sit things out and wait for something to change or just let everyone suffer and not just their people.

We all get to share this pain that black folks been getting under this world wide system, now it falls on everybody and their mama.
Folks can't hide no more and skate on by or use our pain for gain...nah..come on and get some of this fucked up white supremacy.


Hahaha haha
Pain has no color...hahaha
Let me stop but yall should get the message


Simple
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Nobody is blaming yall but a non voter complaining about shit is just pointless. Niggas ain’t blaming non voters over racist whites. It just the excuse for non voting was usually bullshit

Like the folks who don’t trust any political party and think everything needs to be burned down and rebuilt I can respect them they usually are consistent with it and probably haven’t voted in 20 years

But let be real the country has gotten dumber and the reason people won’t vote for women or minorities are usually stupid reasons. Nothing policy related or anything. Just bs. We can at least admit that
 
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