Louisiana Is The Latest State To Remove Soda and Candy From Food Stamps

[TheNightKing]

As a point of fact, yeah, that's precisely what happened when I was a kid. Rasins were the norm in my lunches meanwhile kids whos families had more money were eatin' on the OG fruit rollups and assorted other snacks. Like I said: You can't tell me shit about being poor in this country. We would have navy bean or pinto bean soup for dinner multiple days a week. Moms used to send us to our grandmothers cribs for the weekend primarily so we could eat.

And, since this was never addressed the last time this came up: Why are the restrictions on WIC fine with y'all but not on SNAP??? With WIC they restrict you down to the brands you can buy and nobody bats an eyelash over it.

I haven’t been on food stamps since I was a kid so I don’t know the distinctions now. All I’m saying is the poor always get punished for being poor. Meanwhile, the rich are able to pay below living wages and force people willing and able to work into poverty while they stay high on opioids and coke.

Let poor people have something to take their minds off of the terrible conditions they’re living in. It’s their choice if they want to fuck up their health, just like it’s the choice of rich people to do the same.

Government shouldn’t make people’s decisions for them, just focus on the bottom line and provide opportunities for people to do better. It’s up to them whether they take advantage.

 

[konceptjones]

• The government has no fucking money, it spends and collects tax revenue.
• There are fuck all households surviving on food stamps junk food.
• This is simply punishment for poor individuals who's most egregious offense is having the audacity to be poor in a country that cannot function in any way without their existence as poor people.
• If sugar is the problem it can be addressed in legislation, these same states can tell their senators and reps to start a bill. They won't, because it's only about making poor people feel bad, a useless endeavor because the poor already feel bad because, they...are...fucking....poor.

Then explain poor mothers that need WIC and can't even buy their kids Froot Loops, frozen tater tots or fries, ketchup to go on the fries they can't buy, or assorted other shit.

'Cause that's how WIC works: Massive restrictions on what you can and can't buy down to the brand or variety.

 

[TheNightKing]

Then explain poor mothers that need WIC and can't even buy their kids Froot Loops, frozen tater tots or fries, ketchup to go on the fries they can't buy, or assorted other shit.

'Cause that's how WIC works: Massive restrictions on what you can and can't buy down to the brand or variety.

That’s wrong too.

To counter your point, explain why if junk food is so bad why don’t they ban it for everybody?

 

[Inori]

tough crowd.. in before the disallow copping any seasonings too. You want salt? FOH brokie and pay with cash like everyone else if you want some flavor!

damn shame

 

[Dwitty]

Then explain poor mothers that need WIC and can't even buy their kids Froot Loops, frozen tater tots or fries, ketchup to go on the fries they can't buy, or assorted other shit.

'Cause that's how WIC works: Massive restrictions on what you can and can't buy down to the brand or variety.

WIC SERVES A DIFFERENT PURPOSE...... A SPECIFIC PURPOSE THAT IS IN THE FUCKING NAME.

It stands for WOMEN, INFANTS, and children. It was literally created to provide nutrition to pregnant women, recently pregnant i.e. breastfeeding women, and infants. There was a large number of women low income/poor that met this criteria that were suffering from illness and ailments due to lack of nutrition and excessive hunger.

The program was created for giving them nutrients so the restrictions are in place to condone only that.

 

[konceptjones]

I haven’t been on food stamps since I was a kid so I don’t know the distinctions now. All I’m saying is the poor always get punished for being poor. Meanwhile, the rich are able to pay below living wages and force people willing and able to work into poverty while they stay high on opioids and coke.

Let poor people have something to take their minds off of the terrible conditions they’re living in. It’s their choice if they want to fuck up their health, just like it’s the choice of rich people to do the same.

Government shouldn’t make people’s decisions for them, just focus on the bottom line and provide opportunities for people to do better. It’s up to them whether they take advantage.

Here's the thing about these restrictions: Not one state restricts you from buying the ingredients to make cookies or cakes and baking them yourself. You can even get the cold cookie dough from the dairy cases and pay for it with SNAP, so all of this about "Let poor people have something to take their minds off of the terrible conditions they’re living in."??? They can, they just gotta bake the shit themselves.

 

[Inori]

Here's the thing about these restrictions: Not one state restricts you from buying the ingredients to make cookies or cakes and baking them yourself. You can even get the cold cookie dough from the dairy cases and pay for it with SNAP, so all of this about "Let poor people have something to take their minds off of the terrible conditions they’re living in."??? They can, they just gotta bake the shit themselves.

if thats the case then what purpose is this actually serving then?
Doesnt sound like itll result in healthier diets
Doesnt sound like itll result in cost savings

 

[Loneshot]

That’s wrong too.

To counter your point, explain why if junk food is so bad why don’t they ban it for everybody?

Because freedom. But why should tax payers money be spent on making people less healthy? With money comes space to exercise freedom. We're going backwards at lightspeed if we are going to preach capitalism yet socialize obesity inducing diets.

Do you realize how much of a generational curse that living off of welfare has become? So many parents willingly have children simply to increase their welfare benefits. Its a nasty scheme that destroys any hope the children have of breaking the cycle, because everyone around them is pushing the same scheme.

I live in SoCal, LA County to be exact. We love food stamps here. Everyone is eligible for food stamps here if you're pretty much broke. Many people hide income to qualify for welfare (cash and food stamps). I see parents telling their children to apply for welfare before they tell them to get a job.

We have to break this cycle somewhere, at some point.

 

[konceptjones]

if thats the case then what purpose is this actually serving then?
Doesnt sound like itll result in healthier diets
Doesnt sound like itll result in cost savings

Pop and chips are still restricted. Baking cookies and cakes from scratch results in something that's not loaded with chemicals, artificial sweeteners, dyes, and other shit so, yeah... On a technical level, healthier.

As for cost savings: Since many are not so inclined to do these things from scratch, there will be more money available to each family for more fruits, vegetables, etc 'cause you're not blowing it on The Little Debbie Collection and shit like that.

 

[SeaSnake]

No, you said "socialist", and if you've ever taken a look at pretty much every truly socialist regime in history, you'd see that they all have pretty much slaughtered their own people or starved them out as well as anyone that disagreed with the ruling socialist party.

So are social programs to help the community good or bad? How do you consider black panthers

 

[SeaSnake]

Because freedom. But why should tax payers money be spent on making people less healthy? With money comes space to exercise freedom. We're going backwards at lightspeed if we are going to preach capitalism yet socialize obesity inducing diets.

Do you realize how much of a generational curse that living off of welfare has become? So many parents willingly have children simply to increase their welfare benefits. Its a nasty scheme that destroys any hope the children have of breaking the cycle, because everyone around them is pushing the same scheme.

I live in SoCal, LA County to be exact. We love food stamps here. Everyone is eligible for food stamps here if you're pretty much broke. Many people hide income to qualify for welfare (cash and food stamps). I see parents telling their children to apply for welfare before they tell them to get a job.

We have to break this cycle somewhere, at some point.

Isn’t California the most expensive state to live in with a high number of homeless people. Need more welfare seems like

 

[SeaSnake]

This hypothesis that this is going to lead to healthier poor people is nuts. Real life cyberpunk

 

[Loneshot]

Isn’t California the most expensive state to live in with a high number of homeless people. Need more welfare seems like

That's the problem. The politicians have been milking that idea for decades instead of addressing wages and rent. Now everything is all messed up to the point where there is apparently no money, but also not enough welfare to patch up inflation.

 

[TheNightKing]

Because freedom. But why should tax payers money be spent on making people less healthy? With money comes space to exercise freedom. We're going backwards at lightspeed if we are going to preach capitalism yet socialize obesity inducing diets.

Do you realize how much of a generational curse that living off of welfare has become? So many parents willingly have children simply to increase their welfare benefits. Its a nasty scheme that destroys any hope the children have of breaking the cycle, because everyone around them is pushing the same scheme.

I live in SoCal, LA County to be exact. We love food stamps here. Everyone is eligible for food stamps here if your pretty much broke. Many people hide income to qualify for welfare (cash and food stamps). I see parents telling their children to apply for welfare before they tell them to get a job.

We have to break this cycle somewhere, at some point.

Freedom? Is it freedom to be victim of an oppressive system and have your decisions made for you? I guess these people should pull themselves up by their bootstraps, right? I’m looking at this from the black perspective as I assume you are. Whites on government assistance don’t have as much of an excuse.

There are much better ways to break these cycles though. If people were paid a living wage that put their income fairly well above what they get on government benefits I bet a lot of people would work instead of sitting on their ass.

For black people specifically, you can’t ignore all the shit that put us here. You have to reverse generations of oppression to put us back on a level playing field. A lot of this shit is learned behavior out of past necessity.

All I’m saying is poor people have it bad enough already. Why beat up on them even more.

 

[konceptjones]

So are social programs to help the community good or bad? How do you consider black panthers

Programs to help the community are good ad long as they come from a place of actually trying to uplift and not just for posturing or some other agenda.

The Panthers were necessary for the time. I don't agree with everything they promoted, but that's ok, I don't have to. They wanted to bring Black folks together, end police brutality, and protect and serve the Black community, all of which benefit us.

 

[TheNightKing]

Can’t believe y’all really cool with a few white mean telling people what they can do with OUR money. It’s not the government’s money, it’s ours.

Would you be cool sitting in front of family members and telling them you are cool with these restrictions on the money they get from US?

 

[Blue_London]

Can’t believe y’all really cool with a few white mean telling people what they can do with OUR money. It’s not the government’s money, it’s ours.

Would you be cool sitting in front of family members and telling them you are cool with these restrictions on the money they get from US?

Lmao!!! Why does everything have to be extreme or a conspiracy.

This is why you can't have public healthcare.

I take it you don't support parliamentary democracy?

 

[SeaSnake]

If your country had free healthcare what we talking about. Got it easier than most Americans

 

[Blue_London]

If your country had free healthcare what we talking about. Got it easier than most Americans

It's not that easy healthcare being free depends on people actually living healthy lifestyles because it's so expensive.

So if people eat well they have less health issues which means universal healthcare is still affordable.

German doctors are demanding education on healthy eating and exercise start young so healthcare is still free

 

[Inori]

It's not that easy healthcare being free depends on people actually living healthy lifestyles because it's so expensive.

So if people eat well they have less health issues which means universal healthcare is still affordable.

German doctors are demanding education on healthy eating and exercise start young so healthcare is still free

im curious, are they doing anything about the companies/manufacturers that are pumping out and marketing unhealthy foods to the very same folks they are demanding be educated about healthy eating?