COMMUNITY United States Politics Thread: Trump's Second Term


Immigrant communities across South Florida are on edge after a newly revealed immigration memo from the Trump administration confirmed that migrants could now be deported to countries other than their own with as little as six hours’ notice — even in cases where those countries offer no guarantees of safety.

The policy, laid out in a July 9 memo by Todd Lyons, acting director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, expands the controversial use of “third-country deportations.” Immigration lawyers, human rights advocates and families say the rule marks one of the most extreme deportation tactics yet under President Donald Trump’s hardline immigration approach. “It is really chaos, what they are creating,” said Elizabeth Amaran, a Miami-based immigration attorney. “In practice, it’s almost impossible to notify someone in time. Six hours is not enough to prepare any legal defense — it effectively denies people due process.”

Many immigrants in South Florida are in legal limbo, with pending asylum cases or final orders of removal that haven’t been enforced. Under the memo, first reported by the Washington Post, ICE is now authorized to deport non-citizens — including long-term U.S. residents — to third countries with only 24 hours’ notice. In “exigent circumstances,” that window can shrink to six hours, so long as the detainee is given an opportunity to speak with an attorney.


In cases where a receiving country has given “credible diplomatic assurances” that the deportee won’t face torture or persecution, ICE can carry out removals without any prior notice to the individual. Legal experts say this amounts to a sweeping removal power with few safeguards and little transparency. “This falls far short of providing the statutory and due process protections that the law requires,” Trina Realmuto, executive director of the National Immigration Litigation Alliance, told Reuters. Her organization is leading a class action lawsuit against ICE in federal court over what it calls unconstitutional deportations.

The Trump administration has defended the policy as a necessary tool to accelerate the removal of unauthorized immigrants — including some with criminal records — particularly when their home countries are unwilling to accept them. “We need to get the worst of the worst out of our country,” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Sunday on Fox News. But data and accounts from immigration attorneys paint a different picture.

Amaran says the majority of detainees she knows of who are at risk under the policy do not have criminal records. “Out of 14 people I know of who were detained recently, only three had any record at all,” she said. “Many have pending asylum claims or other forms of relief. They’re being deported before their cases can be heard.” She added that many deportees are being sent to remote areas of Mexico despite not being Mexican nationals — and with no resources to survive. “According to families I’ve spoken with, they’re bused to remote border areas, given a 15-day temporary permit, and then just left there. No money, no shelter, no plan,” Amaran said.

ICE’s new memo follows a Supreme Court decision in June that lifted an injunction on third-country deportations. In a dissenting opinion, Justice Sonia Sotomayor warned the policy would place “thousands of lives at risk of persecution and torture,” accusing the government of abandoning caution in life-and-death matters.” Since the ruling, the Trump administration has resumed controversial removals. Just last week, eight migrants from countries including Cuba, Sudan and Vietnam were deported to war-torn South Sudan — a nation engulfed in civil conflict. U.S. officials reportedly leaned on five African nations — Liberia, Senegal, Guinea-Bissau, Mauritania and Gabon — to accept deportees from other regions, such as Latin America and Southeast Asia.


One of the most high-profile cases involves Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Maryland resident wrongfully deported to El Salvador, despite a court order blocking his removal. After weeks of legal pressure, the Supreme Court returned him to the U.S., only for the Trump administration to threaten a new deportation — this time to an undisclosed third country.

While third-country deportations are not new, they were historically rare and limited. Under Trump’s first term, the U.S. deported a small number of Salvadorans and Hondurans to Guatemala. The Biden administration, while criticized for its own handling of immigration, struck regional agreements to manage migrant flows — including allowing Mexico to accept thousands of Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans under specific terms. What’s changed now, advocates say, is both the scale and the speed. The memo requires ICE officers to provide “reasonable means and opportunity” for a detainee to speak with a lawyer, but Amaran says that’s far from reality. “They say the person can talk to an attorney — but the system to actually make that happen doesn’t work. ICE routinely ignores scheduled calls. You can’t get a judge to rule on anything in six hours,” she said. “The deck is completely stacked.”
 
You don't give a shit about others dude...let's really dive into your life..

Do you give to others currently now? On yesterday, did you go out and give to a needy family?

Killa you not missing any meals nor do you care about what the next man is doing... You hate on niggas that you don't know such as Tariq and Umar and others... You don't even support the shit that they do...well Tariq...you don't donate to the educational dvds he put out that talks about black people (the ones that look like you)...you don't donate to the museum that he set up that displays FBA history

Dude you aint concerned about nobody but your kind, and you know what I mean.....You wasn't helping out niggas under the Biden administration nor concerned about folks struggling...don't use this shit now....as a talking point about how you're so concerned about others...

Others, many were strugglin under Biden...

Like I said...You not missing no meals...Your life hasn't been touched under Trump....you still a nigga that's out here getting money...

Miss me with all that shit killa

I'm speaking to you...but this message can go to a few more others that post in this thread...you niggas aint missing no meals...Life is still life'n along for the most part..and under Biden....you niggas weren't worried about others...so let's not act like you are concerned now....again...this is for a few more of you niggas..

You niggas are still getting money.....aint no meals being missed. Nigga you're still getting blessings and you not sharing them with strangers...you didn't do it under Biden and you not doing now under trump..

Take them blessings and continue living your life killa
A lot of assumptions of other niggas’ lives in here. Sounds like projection. Maybe you don’t help other people, but don’t presume that for other people here.

More importantly, the help I give, or any individual can give, pales in comparison to the help Medicaid and SNAP provides to our community. And y’all just couldn’t bring yourself to vote for Kamala knowing that shit was going to take healthcare and food out of the mouths of people in your community.
 
A lot of assumptions of other niggas’ lives in here. Sounds like projection. Maybe you don’t help other people, but don’t presume that for other people here.

More importantly, the help I give, or any individual can give, pales in comparison to the help Medicaid and SNAP provides to our community. And y’all just couldn’t bring yourself to vote for Kamala knowing that shit was going to take healthcare and food out of the mouths of people in your community.

How are you going to accuse someone of projecting when you are doing the same thing in the very post that you're accusing someone of doing.

Who is (yall), yall is many people, more than one. So it's me and who else?

Yall, means you are talking about everybody who voted for Trump? I hope so, because that (yall) is who you need to be getting upset with...The voters who voted for Trump

Yall niggas not worried about SNAP or Medicaid....yall niggas don't even visit or sit down with yall grandparents 2 or 3x out to the week..... Them people were struggling under Biden.....

Yall wanna po mouth about how bad shit is now...when shit has already been fucked up....

like I said....you nor him are missing any meals....yall still out here getting money and life'n... Go live life
 
I'm surprised no one has caught on that certain "independent" posters here rarely, if ever, post criticisms of republicans or trump policies or actions. It's always either "both sides" or democrats.
If 99 out of 100 posts already criticize Trump/Republicans, why do u get so sensitive over 1/100? Especially anytime it's brought up no one seems to want to admit they are democrats?
 
You don't give a shit about others dude...let's really dive into your life..
Do you give to others currently now? On yesterday, did you go out and give to a needy family?

Killa you not missing any meals nor do you care about what the next man is doing... You hate on niggas that you don't know such as Tariq and Umar and others... You don't even support the shit that they do...well Tariq...you don't donate to the educational dvds he put out that talks about black people (the ones that look like you)...you don't donate to the museum that he set up that displays FBA history

Dude you aint concerned about nobody but your kind, and you know what I mean.....You wasn't helping out niggas under the Biden administration nor concerned about folks struggling...don't use this shit now....as a talking point about how you're so concerned about others...

Others, many were strugglin under Biden...

Like I said...You not missing no meals...Your life hasn't been touched under Trump....you still a nigga that's out here getting money...

Miss me with all that shit killa

I'm speaking to you...but this message can go to a few more others that post in this thread...you niggas aint missing no meals...Life is still life'n along for the most part..and under Biden....you niggas weren't worried about others...so let's not act like you are concerned now....again...this is for a few more of you niggas..

You niggas are still getting money.....aint no meals being missed. Nigga you're still getting blessings and you not sharing them with strangers...you didn't do it under Biden and you not doing now under trump..

Take them blessings and continue living your life killa

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A lot of assumptions of other niggas’ lives in here. Sounds like projection. Maybe you don’t help other people, but don’t presume that for other people here.

More importantly, the help I give, or any individual can give, pales in comparison to the help Medicaid and SNAP provides to our community. And y’all just couldn’t bring yourself to vote for Kamala knowing that shit was going to take healthcare and food out of the mouths of people in your community.
You fucking liar

That bedwench told me to my face she wasn't doing nothing for my community

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Mind you @SneakDZA put pronouns in his bio at 40 years old
I don't get it. These mfs shit on Republicans/trump all day everyday yet won't claim they are democrats (tho they'll vote for them every election).

Somehow when I do the same thing they do, but against the Dems, and I DONT ever vote republican, I must have sinister ulterior motives.

Ironically biggest difference is they actually consistently vote for a party they claim to not really like. I dont.

Very, very odd behavior from grown people.
 
I don't get it. These mfs shit on Republicans/trump all day everyday yet won't claim they are democrats (tho they'll vote for them every election).

Somehow when I do the same thing they do, but against the Dems, and I DONT ever vote republican, I must have sinister ulterior motives.

Ironically biggest difference is they actually consistently vote for a party they claim to not really like. I dont.

Very, very odd behavior from grown people.
Well you have to keep in mind who we're talking about....

I'm not sure how white people are viewing black people delineating from other black people but we're pretty much gatekeeping with identity politics at this point

whoever you're talking about right now is more than likely an immigrant or first gen American, or half white like night king or in bed with white liberals like Sneak

and in the eyes of people like me and @Knock_Twice and our ilk THAT is the explanation for their undying loyalty and hypocrisy when it comes to the Democratic party, despite pretending to not be Democrats
 
If 99 out of 100 posts already criticize Trump/Republicans, why do u get so sensitive over 1/100? Especially anytime it's brought up no one seems to want to admit they are democrats?

This is a thread about trump's second term and the bullshit that ensues from it. Why do you think it falls on you to provide us with counter arguments? Nobody here asked for that.

Also, it is completely possible to be anti-republican and not be pro democrat. I understand that it might be difficult to understand that - especially if you're 100% committed to the simplistic and mostly false narrative that "both sides are the same".
 
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