FEATURED Is There A Such Thing As "Out Of Your League" In Dating?

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A chick is only out your league if you tell yourself she is.

she may meet someone tomorrow that has such an impact on her, that she decides to reprioritize her life, and suddenly that trip isn't as important. People change their minds on shit all the time. They make room in their lives for people they want in it. I ain't saying I can pull her Nia Long, Beyonce, or any other chick...all I'm saying is I'm willing to put myself out there, I'm not afraid of embarrassing myself. If I see a woman I'm interested in, I'd make a move, and I'd encourage any brother to do the same.

The only way you truly know if a woman is willing to sacrifice wants and desires to kick it with you is to open your mouth and find out. Writing yourself off without trying cuz you think she's out your league is a defeated mindset. Yeah you might get swerve, but let her make that decision. Don't make it for her if you gotta opportunity to take a shot.

Fear of rejection should not rule you.
 
Duwop said:
A chick is only out your league if you tell yourself she is.

she may meet someone tomorrow that has such an impact on her, that she decides to reprioritize her life, and suddenly that trip isn't as important. People change their minds on shit all the time. They make room in their lives for people they want in it. I ain't saying I can pull her Nia Long, Beyonce, or any other chick...all I'm saying is I'm willing to put myself out there, I'm not afraid of embarrassing myself. If I see a woman I'm interested in, I'd make a move, and I'd encourage any brother to do the same.

The only way you truly know if a woman is willing to sacrifice wants and desires to kick it with you is to open your mouth and find out. Writing yourself off without trying cuz you think she's out your league is a defeated mindset. Yeah you might get swerve, but let her make that decision. Don't make it for her if you gotta opportunity to take a shot.

Fear of rejection should not rule you.
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Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't be willing to put yourself out there. You never know what can happen until you try.

I'm just saying that you're wrong if you believe that there aren't women that draw lines and stand on it. Yes, there are women who can be swayed. There are also women who can't. If a dude is interested he has to shoot his shot to find out which is which. That's fine, but niggas do need to understand that there are women they won't be able to get no matter how much gusto they put into their efforts.
 
Try to tell niggaz to let go of their doubts. They call you delusional
 
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The Lonious Monk said:
Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't be willing to put yourself out there. You never know what can happen until you try.

I'm just saying that you're wrong if you believe that there aren't women that draw lines and stand on it. Yes, there are women who can be swayed. There are also women who can't. If a dude is interested he has to shoot his shot to find out which is which. That's fine, but niggas do need to understand that there are women they won't be able to get no matter how much gusto they put into their efforts.
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That just means those chicks are stubborn.

Two chicks could be sisters and have a complete different taste in guys. They could have crazy rich parents, and sitting on buckets of cash.

1 may only date within her social circle
1 may want to see what the other side is like.

You don't know which is which unless you holla.

It's not that one is out your league and the other isn't.... They come from the same background
.. One is just more open minded about who she dates, and isn't as restrictive as the other. And again you don't know that unless you speak up.

People talk out of their asses daily. Just cuz a chick says one thing, doesn't mean a good conversation can push them in another direction.

Have the conversation is my total point. The chick could be completely obnoxious and turn you off for intentions. You might not be feeling her personality as much as her looks.

It's so many factors at play, and so many unknown outcomes... It's just foolishness to me to not even try and offer up an easy cop out
 
The Lonious Monk said:
That's not why people are calling you delusional, but if you're committed to playing the victim now, I won't stop you. lol
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Naw I'm never the victim. I'm just laughing at the ridiculous amount of resistance niggaz have at believing in themselves.

Y'all would rather believe I'm delusional than rich chicks are just regular women if you have a conversation with them.
 
Duwop said:
That just means those chicks are stubborn.

Two chicks could be sisters and have a complete different taste in guys. They could have crazy rich parents, and sitting on buckets of cash.

1 may only date within her social circle
1 may want to see what the other side is like.

You don't know which is which unless you holla.

It's not that one is out your league and the other isn't.... They come from the same background
.. One is just more open minded about who she dates, and isn't as restrictive as the other. And again you don't know that unless you speak up.

People talk out of their asses daily. Just cuz a chick says one thing, doesn't mean a good conversation can push them in another direction.

Have the conversation is my total point. The chick could be completely obnoxious and turn you off for intentions. You might not be feeling her personality as much as her looks.

It's so many factors at play, and so many unknown outcomes... It's just foolishness to me to not even try and offer up an easy cop out
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The other sister being more restrictive is what puts her out of some dudes' league. Again, all "out of your league" means is that you don't meet the criteria for consideration. You keep giving examples of chicks with loose criteria. What I'm trying to get you to see is that some women are committed to their criteria and can't be swayed.

You're also stuck on the idea of dudes being afraid to holla because they don't believe they measure up. That's not really up for debate. I and others agree with you, that it's better to shoot your shot and fail than not try and miss out.

Duwop said:
Naw I'm never the victim. I'm just laughing at the ridiculous amount of resistance niggaz have at believing in themselves.

Y'all would rather believe I'm delusional than rich chicks are just regular women if you have a conversation with them.
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Let me ask you a question. What percentage of rich and famous women are married to regular 9 to 5, 50K-70K a year dudes?
 
Don't get me to lying.. I've never been a fan of making up percentages to force a point.

But you pretty much proved my point.

It's a mental thing... Not a real thing.

And y'all assign it to chicks based on their mind set. And limit y'all selves based on your mind set.

If you can place things into perspective with a conversation, then it's not set in stone.

And If you're never willing to have a conversation with a woman you perceive to be out your league, you're only setting barriers on yourself.
 
loud-ninja said:
What most are getting at is the initial stage. People count their selves out before even getting started.

You don't know if that person has common interest like you unless you talk to them.
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That wasn’t stated in the conversation and folks mudded the conversation by pointing out people that got married.

All those folks that were used in this thread as examples ran or worked in the same circles. Them working or hanging in the same social circles caused easy access, which in turn helped getting information to assist in them finding out if they were compatible.

I understand the logic behind psyching yourself out/not giving yourself a fair chance, but let’s be honest here……. If you’re a doorman at the Ritz Carlton, the chance of you marring a multi-millionaire or celebrity is very slim, unless you knew them before all of that.
 
#1hiphopjunki3 said:
That wasn’t stated in the conversation and folks mudded the conversation by pointing out people that got married.

All those folks that were used in this thread as examples ran or worked in the same circles. Them working or hanging in the same social circles caused easy access, which in turn helped getting information to assist in them finding out if they were compatible.

I understand the logic behind psyching yourself out/not giving yourself a fair chance, but let’s be honest here……. If you’re a doorman at the Ritz Carlton, the chance of you marring a multi-millionaire or celebrity is very slim, unless you knew them before all of that.
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No man you’re in the same league as the celebrity you’re opening the door for because you’re soooo confident
 
#1hiphopjunki3 said:
That wasn’t stated in the conversation and folks mudded the conversation by pointing out people that got married.

All those folks that were used in this thread as examples ran or worked in the same circles. Them working or hanging in the same social circles caused easy access, which in turn helped getting information to assist in them finding out if they were compatible.

I understand the logic behind psyching yourself out/not giving yourself a fair chance, but let’s be honest here……. If you’re a doorman at the Ritz Carlton, the chance of you marring a multi-millionaire or celebrity is very slim, unless you knew them before all of that.
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Changing your environment to be around someone is easy to do if a person wanted to.

The chances are slim but not impossible. If cats in prison can get women they don't know, that doorman has a chance.
 
Niggaz don't understand confidence.

Confidence isn't just thinking you can do something. It's being okay with failure.

I'm not delusional, I'm very aware I could get swerved. I just don't care.

Fear of rejection, failure, and embarrassment be kicking y'all asses.
 
Niggaz scared to look stupid. Niggaz scared to play themselves.

They scared to make a fool of themselves.

They scared to be laughed at. They scared to be clowned.

All that fear has a consequence on their personalities
They start to fear conflict. They stay away from anything that can expose them, and create mental boundaries.

Telling themselves a chick is out their league gives then comfort, because they have a reason to not even try and avoid that embarrassment in the event they fail.

It's a cop out.
 
Duwop said:
Don't get me to lying.. I've never been a fan of making up percentages to force a point.

But you pretty much proved my point.

It's a mental thing... Not a real thing.

And y'all assign it to chicks based on their mind set. And limit y'all selves based on your mind set.

If you can place things into perspective with a conversation, then it's not set in stone.

And If you're never willing to have a conversation with a woman you perceive to be out your league, you're only setting barriers on yourself.
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I didn't prove your point. The answer to the question is close to 0. There aren't many rich and powerful women married to normal dudes. That's not because you're the only man on earth that's brave enough to talk to a celebrity chick. It's because hypergamy is a real thing. You got chicks out here going to sperm banks and purposely bringing children into the world with no fathers because they would rather do that than give a dude with less money and clout the time of day.

Bro you claim to have access to celebrity women, but you're married to a normal chick and I'm betting your conquests don't make up a "Who's Who in Hollywood" list. Simmer down.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
I didn't prove your point. The answer to the question is close to 0. There aren't many rich and powerful women married to normal dudes. That's not because you're the only man on earth that's brave enough to talk to a celebrity chick. It's because hypergamy is a real thing. You got chicks out here going to sperm banks and purposely bringing children into the world with no fathers because they would rather do that than give a dude with less money and clout the time of day.

Bro you claim to have access to celebrity women, but you're married to a normal chick and I'm betting your conquests don't make up a "Who's Who in Hollywood" list. Simmer down.
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Packed that nigga up

Wait until he tells you after he took John Witherspoon to the prom he met him again bouncing at a club
 
Close to 0 isn't 0.

And none of that equates to "out of my league"

Just bcuz something isn't likely doesn't mean it's impossible

It's still a cop out.. it's a mindset
 
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