FEATURED Who You Got: Drake, Cole or Kendrick?

[PhenomTheMac]

Nah don't do that, tell me what majority of his music is exclusive to the black American experience. What is he saying that only black Americans have the intrinsic right to say.

Copying styles, weird fake accents - all that shit is perfectly valid to call his ass out on. His pedo ways should've deaded his career years ago.

@PhenomTheMac what does cosplaying black mean

Copying styles, copying accents. Being a media creation. Being an actor playing the part of a rapper. Making songs like started from the bottom when you were a teen soap star. Latching onto Wayne, to bun, dj screw, to future, to 21, to yatchy, to sexy redd, etc. For style points.

Drake isn't an authentic portrayal of who Aubrey Graham really is. It's an amalgam of all the influences he cozies up to for acceptance and credibility. Dude 37 years old and just now is popping out with beads in his hair and painted finger nails. Dude doesn't even write his own songs, he's literally performing someone else's art.

He said this shit like it was some kinda stunt. Cause to him being conscious is some shit you can throw on/take off. It aint actually in him as a way of being, it's just another style to wear for props. He's not hip hop, he's hip hop-adjacent.

 

[BlackRain]

I'm laughing at gatekeeping Blackness.

There are certain aspects of Black culture that should be gatekept even from other Black people. There's nothing wrong with that at all. And even then it can boil down to class and/or region. Shit you seen whats happened the last 4 years or so to Juneteenth as more Black folks outside the south and midwest discovered it and turned into a bunch of brunch day parties. Sometimes you even gotta keep shit away from people who look like you. Again...there's culture and race. The two can be combined but when intracial discussions happen then you need to be able to discuss culture on it's own.

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

I wonder how long Van pretended to like them cacs at TMZ. Pot meet kettle.

Im sure they had issues with Drake for a long time but I refuse to hold it against those brothers if they went along to get along for career expediency. Hollywood is a machine. That is the industry they are in.

And I doubt the hate was always this strong. Drake gives me vibes that it would be a gradual loathing of him taking place. I dislike him much more in my posts today than I did 4 days ago.

 

[StringerBell]

shouldn’t the yoga master be more worried about stopping his daughter from being a sugar daddy Hunter…

 

[Ghostdenidagod]

shouldn’t the yoga master be more worried about stopping his daughter from being a sugar daddy Hunter…

didn’t this nigga escape to Bali or some foreign country because he has SA CASES popping up

 

[Don Dada]

didn’t this nigga escape to Bali or some foreign country because he has SA CASES popping up

Lol why he sit like a monk? Russel Simmons fell the fuck off , RUN DMC is one of the legends if not the biggest legends in the GAME. I hope he didn't turned gay

 

[Los216]

Wouldn’t gatekeeping your own shit be rule number 1 in the book of “How not to get pillaged” ?

It would if we could agree on who "We" are. I understand the premise and the idea behind the movement. However, the execution and the executors were poorly rolled out and managed.

 

[Swabbie]

Copying styles, copying accents. Being a media creation. Being an actor playing the part of a rapper. Making songs like started from the bottom when you were a teen soap star. Latching onto Wayne, to bun, dj screw, to future, to 21, to yatchy, to sexy redd, etc. For style points.

Drake isn't an authentic portrayal of who Aubrey Graham really is. It's an amalgam of all the influences he cozies up to for acceptance and credibility. Dude 37 years old and just now is popping out with beads in his hair and painted finger nails. Dude doesn't even write his own songs, he's literally performing someone else's art.

He said this shit like it was some kinda stunt. Cause to him being conscious is some shit you can throw on/take off. It aint actually in him as a way of being, it's just another style to wear for props. He's not hip hop, he's hip hop-adjacent.

Yeah but that just makes him a fraud, that don't mean he's faking black is my point. A black man can't fake being black. He can fake being a part of certain worlds, though.

 

[Los216]

There are certain aspects of Black culture that should be gatekept even from other Black people. There's nothing wrong with that at all. And even then it can boil down to class and/or region. Shit you seen whats happened the last 4 years or so to Juneteenth as more Black folks outside the south and midwest discovered it and turned into a bunch of brunch day parties. Sometimes you even gotta keep shit away from people who look like you. Again...there's culture and race. The two can be combined but when intracial discussions happen then you need to be able to discuss culture on it's own.

I don't disagree. I'm laughing at the thought of there being a consensus amongst us to try and police this or even implement it.

 

[BlackRain]

I wonder how long Van pretended to like them cacs at TMZ. Pot meet kettle.

Im sure they had issues with Drake for a long time but I refuse to hold it against those brothers if they went along to get all for career expediency. Hollywood is a machine. That is the industry they are in.

And I doubt the hate was always this strong. Drake gives me vibes that it would be a gradual loathing of him taking place. I dislike him much more in my posts today than I did 4 days ago.

Been saying in this thread the anti Drake shit has been building over the years. And it seemed like with each release he said and/or did something that made people go "Why are we still fucking with him?"

 

[Maywood]

 

[Disanthrope]

emotionally attached

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

Been saying in this thread the anti Drake shit has been building over the years. And it seemed like with each release he said and/or did something that made people go "Why are we still fucking with him?"

He gets more and more egregious. I didn’t even know he had issues with Pharrell. Then I also had Jay Z and Beyonce “Boss” come up in my track list on Alexa. There’s so much there.

 

[Lab Baby]

How is Bow Wow culturally confused? Boward Woward was born in Columbus but put on in the rap game by Snoop on the west coast. Then he linked up with JD in ATL. JD is a producer so of course if Bow Wow is working with him he's going to have an ATL sound, flow, bounce to it. That's no different than if Bow Wow would've done songs produced by Dr. Dre it would've had a G-Funk sound to it.

I don't wanna twist your words but it almost sounds like you're saying that rappers are only allowed to sound one way even though they may be living and experiencing life in different areas.

This is a good time to remind people that DJ Premier was born and raised in Houston and even attended college there. Before he moved to New York as a teenager, His influences on hip hop were all of the legendary New York DJ's. Nobody who is a fan of Premier will ever tell you that he has a Houston sound to his music. I don't think I've ever even heard Premier do a Chopped and Screwed song or any slow banging Houston type of music.

So is Premier putting on a front with his New York Boom Bap sound because none of his music sounds like the Houston rap scene music?

I used to love when ppl brought Preemo in those NY vs the South threads on the IC. That's when I would bring up Scarface who was born in Jersey. As far as Preemo, hip hop production was still in its developmental stages. All cats were doing was chopping Ultimate Breaks and Beats loops and scratching vocal samples. I'm not hip to Texas music in the 80s, but it's not they had a distinct sound until DJ Screw later on. Preemo took a sound that was still developing, and built on it along with Pete Rock and Large Professor. For that matter, most of the hip hop pioneers are from the Caribbean... they had to get acclimated with American culture as well as embrace their own to create hip hop.

To answer your question of whether rappers should only sound like their region... I say all that to say while hip hop embraces (mostly) all cultures and ppl, we pride ourselves on holding down our own culture, region and identity. I'm from Brooklyn but been out of NYC for 10 years. I love when ppl can tell I'm from NY by my accent. Living in Cali made me appreciate Nipsey, YG and them niggas, but it's not like I got a bunch of copycat DJ Mustard beats in my FL Studio folder. Look at what you said about Bow Wow... a child growing up in the industry coached by older rappers/producers from different regions on how to sound. Not having the space and time to develop his own sound, most music I heard from him sounds like whatever region it came from. Not his fault, just how he was trained. Plus he got a history of saying coon shit, so there's that.

As far as Drake goes, he may not be as guilty as an Iggy Azalea... but his sound has been consistently out of character for him, which is becoming more apparent as this battle progresses. He can't even dispel pedo allegations without sounding like a jilted white boy that got smoked in 2K. I'm not even on the "Not Like Us" bandwagon... to me, calling Drake a culture vulture is a reach. But I understand if someone questions his authenticity as a rapper, which is superficial in the grand scheme of things.

 

[BlackRain]

He gets more and more egregious. I didn’t even know he had issues with Pharrell. Then I also had Jay Z and Beyonce “Boss” come up in my track list on Alexa. There’s so much there.

I always took that Boss verse as shots at Kanye. Especially because he worked with Drake after that too. I do however find fault with the brigade of "I never really liked that nigga" coming though. To me that speaks even more to what Kendrick was talking about. A bunch of niggas cosigned Drake way longer than they needed to for their own career benefits even through all the funny shit he did. I really do think there's some taking Kendrick side more out of fear of being exposed themselves. I mean shit...you see how quick Metro Booming became Metro Groomin once them nasty ass tweets came back.

 

[Lab Baby]

emotionally attached

The name Aubrey Graham must be on his birth certificate... under "father's name".

 

[WilberDMillz]

This shit getting goofy. Drake is a phony but he not cosplaying being black, he is black. He's also a Canadian so no duh he's not with the black American experience, idek what that gotta with anything, he don't make pro-Black music lol.

At this point it seems a lot of mfers just on Drake head because y'all don't see him as being black.

What music of his is around the black american experience? Forgive me, I don't follow Drake that closely but so far as I can tell he make club music for chicks and soft niggas.

Even then, don't he have a real connection to black american music through his father?

Lmaoooo, self Ether

 

[Swabbie]

Lmaoooo, self Ether

For real? I don't follow.

 

[Swabbie]

but his sound has been consistently out of character for him, which is becoming more apparent as this battle progresses

He is what he has always been, an actor.

 

[Eyerone]

The receipts




This beef got Mal acting out of character. This shit is so god damn funny.