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AP2.5 said:
Fam, there are veterans who haven't served in years that still are dealing with the trauma of combat. Seeing squad members blown up literally in front of their face

Who are we as people who have never served to tell them, man you should be over it by now, it's been 5 years.

Some shit stays with some people a little longer than others and that should be ok. Who knows what kinda therapy she's had to undergo to a) even trust another man to get into a committed relationship with and b) get to a place to even talk about it
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Lmao.

I didn’t say anything about get over it

I said you don’t tell your people how to deal/help them

That’s weird by y’all.
 
ZMaKEa said:
I am not even saying she should've reported it immediately.

I am not even saying Diddy didn't do it.

I am saying the idea that people do not have a obligation to society to report potential crimes in a timely fashion to prevent, but they can wait as long as they want, based on how they fucking feel is infantilizing.

I understand someone that is getting their head kicked in every night with no resources, not reporting some shit until they get away and they are safe.

I understand children that are abused having to process shit.

We ain't talking teacher that got nowhere else to go, a mortgage, and three kids trying to keep their family together due to financial constraints.

We ain't talking about someone that is working a shit job, with low career prospects, tolerating advancements from their boss to pay their bills.

We are talking about a damn celebrity that lived a life of extreme luxury that 99 percent of the world will never live and has connections that most of the world will never have.

At what point do people expect more from people?

People acting like Diddy is got damn Elon Musk or some shit with military connections supplying satellites. Diddy isn't even Jeffery Epestein. Diddy is a basic ass record producer and brand marketer in the grand scheme of things. He ain't a fucking Bond villain.
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Yeah, I'm not saying that either...........but the timeframe has to be reasonable.

Not years later.
 
Dwayne said:
Lmao.

I didn’t say anything about get over it

I said you don’t tell your people how to deal/help them

That’s weird by y’all.
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Man we can give some advice we cannot heal severe trauma. Your wife loses her job you can fix that. Your wife sees three people get murdered and she has nightmares it’s only so much you can do.


In regard to a rape case against a millionaire in a country where money lets you slide. I would want my wife to take it trial but if she has a breakdown while being cross examined in a national fucking case then what? Tell her be strong?
 
deadeye said:
So, now we're comparing Cassidy to a war veteran who saw combat and is dealing with PTSD?


Damn bruh, didn't know goalposts could move that far.
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I'm comparing trauma and trying to get you to see that trauma comes in all different shapes and sizes. It is not absolute which means there is no one way to handle it regardless if it makes sense to you or not

But you just proved my point

You give credence to war veterans that have PTSD but don't for victims of assault

Hell, the got damn T in PTSD means traumatic.

But for shits and giggles.. Since now I'm moving goalposts, you give me an equivalent to Cassie in this situation
 
Dwayne said:
Lmao.

I didn’t say anything about get over it

I said you don’t tell your people how to deal/help them

That’s weird by y’all.
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Ok, you didn't say that

I didn't say you did but I'll concede that maybe I implied you did. So now that we got that out the way, are you going to be there to pick up the pieces for telling someone what to do, they do it and it blows up in their face?
 
AP2.5 said:
Ok, you didn't say that

I didn't say you did but I'll concede that maybe I implied you did. So now that we got that out the way, are you going to be there to pick up the pieces for telling someone what to do, they do it and it blows up in their face?
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I said that verbatim.

But let’s not derail and let’s just focus on that monster P Diddy.
 
deadeye said:
Yeah, I'm not saying that either...........but the timeframe has to be reasonable.

Not years later.
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Well, you never gonna get a reasonable timeframe when combating sexual assault is about how people feel about being a victim, on top of most people believing majority of adult sexual assault victims are women.

Let's be honest, if sexual assault was handled like gun violence and victims were pressured to say who shot them or like kidnapping, where people are encouraged to look out and speak up, we would have less sexual predators.

But instead sexual assault is treated like a private matter, where the victim's privacy and well-being is more important than the safety of everyone else.

It's evident in this thread. Me and you are talking about reporting a crime to prevent another crime, everyone else is concerned about the feelings of someone that received a multi-million dollar settlement without even going to trial or proving the motherfucker did any of the shit she said he did.

And nobody would be talking about fucking feelings and trauma if it was any other crime.
 
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AP2.5 said:
Fam, there are veterans who haven't served in years that still are dealing with the trauma of combat. Seeing squad members blown up literally in front of their face

Who are we as people who have never served to tell them, man you should be over it by now, it's been 5 years.

Some shit stays with some people a little longer than others and that should be ok. Who knows what kinda therapy she's had to undergo to a) even trust another man to get into a committed relationship with and b) get to a place to even talk about it
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I think voluntary serving the armed forces and in mutual combat and forced sexual abuse is a bit different.
I get your point but not a good analogy
 
SeaSnake said:
Man we can give some advice we cannot heal severe trauma. Your wife loses her job you can fix that. Your wife sees three people get murdered and she has nightmares it’s only so much you can do.


In regard to a rape case against a millionaire in a country where money lets you slide. I would want my wife to take it trial but if she has a breakdown while being cross examined in a national fucking case then what? Tell her be strong?
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To help prosecute the offender who violated her?

You fucking right .

The nigga needs to be off the streets and pay for what he’s done.

See……who’s really for helping here?

This way of thinking will have niggas roaming the hood taking ass when he should be in jail.

Niggas really in here fighting the wrong battles but dressing it up as something else.

Think I’m done with this convo
Shit is sad.
 
ZMaKEa said:
It is it.

People just don't like to hear it because it involves women, but it's the truth. It goes for anybody. Fuck how you feel, you live in a society, you have a duty and responsibility to maintain the safety of society. Your obligation isn't to your fucking trauma or your fucking feelings.

A motherfucker shoot the club up, people are like, "We need to find out who did it to prevent other shootings. Please report any evidence."

A motherfucker goes around kidnapping children, "We need all information on the make and vehicle. Please be alert."

A motherfucker going around sexually assaulting people, "The victims have the right to take their time due trauma."

Not only people encourage motherfuckers to take their time, not to say anything until they are ready, which can be a whole fucking 20 years from now. So the assaulter can go around doing this toother people.

Then we supposed to believe them wholeheartedly because if we believe them wholeheartedly, it will encourage victims to say something?

Society has made every single effort to make it as seamless and easy as possible to report sexual assaults and we still talking about, "Well, how they feel about it is important..."

We don't do that for any other crime or violation against societal norms. Reporting crime isn't about the victim and their feelings, it's about protecting society from transgressors against societal norms.

Diddy blew up a fucking car trying to kill someone and people are like, "Well, she was scared."

Diddy could've killed Kid Cudi and y'all talking about how she fucking feels. What about Kid Cudi's life?

Fuck outta here.
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The bold is a flat out lie given the fact that there's thousands of untested rape kits just sitting around. The shit is taken more seriously now but still not as seriously as it should be.
 
We need both women and men to both take it serious as it should be taken. And also call out fraudulent looking shit that hurts people ability to get justice.

Sorry but if we being honest this case will give another woman more trouble than she should get.
 
BlackRain said:
The bold is a flat out lie given the fact that there's thousands of untested rape kits just sitting around. The shit is taken more seriously now but still not as seriously as it should be.
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And there are hundreds of unsolved murders and tax havens and unaccounted money, missing people and all other shit.

The world ain't perfect.

It doesn't change the fact there's hotlines, PSAs, sexual assault experts in organizations, sexual assault prevention classes, reports, studies, educational movements, law enforcement divisions and etc.

Little children in school shootings brave enough to pick up the phone and their teachers getting their head blown off while being shot at but we excusing grown ass rich women for not reporting her ex-boyfriend blowing up a got damn car trying to kill someone.

But she can put that shit in a compliant 10 years later and get paid from it.

Like I said, sexual assault is the only fucking crime where nobody has any urgency to protect the wider public because of the infantilization of victim.

One person can have a 20 year career being a creep and nobody can admit that it's a combination of factors; it's hard to prove, it's scary, inadequate resources and etc.

And one of the factors people feeling like they have no duty to report being victimized to prevent further victimization because it's not like other crimes.

Harvey Weinstein would not exist if people weren't like, "I paid the cost, I got what I wanted, it's not my problem."

Then when the cost is no longer justifiable, they can run back and tell and act like they are brave.

It was an open secret for a reason.

I ain't talking about kids, the poor, I am talking about grown ass people with resources, feeling no obligation to protect anyone or anything but their own fucking feelings. And other grown ass people thinking that is reasonable.
 
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