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Thinking outside the box again...

How bout the bottom 10 teams from the previous year get a higher salary cap for the upcoming year to attract free agents if they are willing to spend the money. Any contract signed during that time does not count against the cap if the team becomes competitive during the contract.
 
@AP2.0 keep referring to QBs? Why?


the chiefs just lost their top top tackles. If I’m the best RT or LT I would go straight to them. they just lost a WR too. So I’m im chase. I’m not going to a team that wasn’t that good the year before. I’m going to play with mahomes.

And the chiefs would just keep on ticking.

Another example. The Saints just lost Brees and still have a loaded roster.

If I’m Trevor Lawrence I’ll sign with NOLA and have an
Offense of genius and play make up all over the field.

that would leave good teams good and teams that was bad stay bad.


Bad teams would stay bad for long ass time.

The counter to that is you got teams who been bad for years, get high picks, and don’t do shit with em anyway. Jacksonville been drafting in the top 10 for years and have 3 10 win seasons in the last 15 years to show for it. So what’s the difference?
 
The counter to that is you got teams who been bad for years, get high picks, and don’t do shit with em anyway. Jacksonville been drafting in the top 10 for years and have 3 10 win seasons in the last 15 years to show for it. So what’s the difference?

They get a chance at the top young players though.

You trying to take away the chance of them getting a franchise QB
 
LMAO @ " Bad teams would stay bad for long ass time"

The Lions been picking top 10-15,most years than not, since the draft has been around.

How's that been going for them?

Even if there was a free agency draft, it would still be like the regular draft. In that you aren't guaranteed shit. We all THINK Trevor Lawrence is gonna be great, but he absolutely can be a bust. It would still come down to how good your scouting dept. is just like it's always been.
 
LMAO @ " Bad teams would stay bad for long ass time"

The Lions been picking top 10-15,most years than not, since the draft has been around.

How's that been going for them?

Even if there was a free agency draft, it would still be like the regular draft. In that you aren't guaranteed shit. We all THINK Trevor Lawrence is gonna be great, but he absolutely can be a bust. It would still come down to how good your scouting dept. is just like it's always been.
Lions just have a horrible draft strategy
 
Thinking outside the box again...

How bout the bottom 10 teams from the previous year get a higher salary cap for the upcoming year to attract free agents if they are willing to spend the money. Any contract signed during that time does not count against the cap if the team becomes competitive during the contract.

The owners will never agree to something like that
 
LMAO @ " Bad teams would stay bad for long ass time"

The Lions been picking top 10-15,most years than not, since the draft has been around.

How's that been going for them?

Even if there was a free agency draft, it would still be like the regular draft. In that you aren't guaranteed shit. We all THINK Trevor Lawrence is gonna be great, but he absolutely can be a bust. It would still come down to how good your scouting dept. is just like it's always been.

This is due to incompetence in the front office

You can go down the history of the NFL and look at teams that got it right once they got the correct front office

The Saints were a laughing stock until they got Peyton

San Francisco wasn't shit before Bill Walsh

Dallas built their dynasty in the 90s off of draft capital from the Walker trade

Seattle built the Leigon Of Boom in the draft

Look how stocked the 49ers roster is....most of those guys were drafted

There is now hope in Cleveland due to hits in the draft

Don't use a team who has historically had a poor front office because that is just a bad faith arguement

Especially considering the number of teams that build through the draft

Just look at the Steelers
 
This is due to incompetence in the front office

You can go down the history of the NFL and look at teams that got it right once they got the correct front office

The Saints were a laughing stock until they got Peyton

San Francisco wasn't shit before Bill Walsh

Dallas built their dynasty in the 90s off of draft capital from the Walker trade

Seattle built the Leigon Of Boom in the draft

Look how stocked the 49ers roster is....most of those guys were drafted

There is now hope in Cleveland due to hits in the draft

Don't use a team who has historically had a poor front office because that is just a bad faith arguement

Especially considering the number of teams that build through the draft

Just look at the Steelers


Ok?!?! How does any of this refuse my point that a shitty organization would still chose bad players weather it's a draft or some sorta free agency.


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uh....because I named previously shitty organizations that changed their trajectory using the draft

And again WTF does that have to do if there's a draft or players are a free agency pool.

Do you think Gil Brandt or Jimmy Johnson's eye for talent would've changed if there wasn't a draft?

If not then this convo is a mute point.
 
And again WTF does that have to do if there's a draft or players are a free agency pool.

Do you think Gil Brandt or Jimmy Johnson's eye for talent would've changed if there wasn't a draft?

If not then this convo is a mute point.

This a "moot point" because at that time there was no hard salary cap and they could have gotten as many players as they wanted which goes back to my original point that if you want to get rid of the draft you have to get rid of the hard salary cap

Teams can't keep the talent they have with the current hard salary cap and now you want to go back to the days before there was a rookie wage scale when guys were getting high signing bonuses before playing the game?

And how is that gonna work? Hell, just a couple of weeks ago, you same dudes who are pro "free market" were bitching when Dak was trying to get his 40 million and now you would all of a sudden be fine with rookies who have never played a game getting these crazy free agent deals?

What are we doing here?

And as far as the talent that they eventually acquired, the likelihood that they would have gotten those players is low considering they would have had to compete with 27 other teams within the free agent pool

If teams can bust with draft picks, if they can bust with free agent signings, they can bust high end free agent college players, so the "eye for talent" argument is alot a "moot point"
 
And as far as the talent that they eventually acquired, the likelihood that they would have gotten those players is low considering they would have had to compete with 27 other teams within the free agent pool

If teams can bust with draft picks, if they can bust with free agent signings, they can bust high end free agent college players, so the "eye for talent" argument is alot a "moot point"


That's WTF I said.......

Even if there was a free agency draft, it would still be like the regular draft. In that you aren't guaranteed shit. We all THINK Trevor Lawrence is gonna be great, but he absolutely can be a bust. It would still come down to how good your scouting dept. is just like it's always been.


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......Im sorry I used the shitty ass Lion as the example. Fuck
 
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