Trump unveils 'Platinum Plan' for Black Americans...Tags Ice Cube into the ring

Los216 said:
Actually Republicans are making it so that this isn't the reality. That's why Republicans have been packing the courts for years. So that even when they loose power in The Senate, House, and Presidency, they will have a judiciary majority rule. Conservative courts across the country is still a win for Republicans even if Dems win the Senate, House, and Presidency.


That's why all of these hypotheticals about working with Republicans just in case don't mean shit. The number one priority should be to vote them out.
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We are capable of multi-tasking...... lol
 
Los216 said:
America proved this to be false in 2016
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We collectively remember.... hence why folks are so engaged politically now... as to not repeat the same mistakes.

Hedge your bets... and try to be in a decent position no matter who wins. Aint that what all the rich donors do?

I cant remember who on here said it before but money talks in politics.. we gotta use the black dollar to form a superpac to ensure that no matter who wins, dems or repubs... our needs and demands are met. Gotta play this stupid ass game
 
Inori said:
We collectively remember.... hence why folks are so engaged politically now... as to not repeat the same mistakes.

Hedge your bets... and try to be in a decent position no matter who wins. Aint that what all the rich donors do?

I cant remember who on here said it before but money talks in politics.. we gotta use the black dollar to form a superpac to ensure that no matter who wins, dems or repubs... our needs and demands are met. Gotta play this stupid ass game
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Or we could just vote more black people into the Democratic party.

Look I get all the excitement about creating a new party just for us but niggas need to realize that Black people are The Democratic party. We are the voter base of the party. Why do we have to leave The democratic party and make our own shit or our own Super PAC? How about we actually start running what's already ours? It's right there for us but niggas spend too much time overthinking it.

I mean just think. If Biden wins in November than Kamala is immediately the frontrunner for POTUS in 2024. There are plenty of Black democrats who could be here running mate in 2024. We might actually have an all black ticket. But if that were to happen I have no doubts that niggas would spend more time complaining about how she isn't Black enough or her and her running mate aren't doing enough for Black people. If it's one thing that Black people need to learn how to do still to this day it's win. Niggas don't know how to win. We think all of our wins need to be overwhelmingly popular, or major, or universally agreed on. It's perfectly fine if Black people don't universally agree on shit. W can't even universally agree that LeBron is The GOAT. That's fine. We just need to start winning.

I truly believe that Black people will not prosper until we are in complete power. To me complete power would mean a Black POTUS and a Black VP. Because if that happens it either means that Black people are the loudest and most active voters or we somehow convinced the rest of the country that it's our time now. But when that happens, and we do get that power, we ain't never letting that shit go.................................White people have had it since we were dragged here in chains. I see no reason why we couldn't go on a 450 year run ourselves.

Why do all of this to create our own shit when The Democratic platform is right there for us to take? It's already built. We just need to take it.
 
Los216 said:
Or we could just vote more black people into the Democratic party.

Look I get all the excitement about creating a new party just for us but niggas need to realize that Black people are The Democratic party. We are the voter base of the party. Why do we have to leave The democratic party and make our own shit or our own Super PAC? How about we actually start running what's already ours? It's right there for us but niggas spend too much time overthinking it.

I mean just think. If Biden wins in November than Kamala is immediately the frontrunner for POTUS in 2024. There are plenty of Black democrats who could be here running mate in 2024. We might actually have an all black ticket. But if that were to happen I have no doubts that niggas would spend more time complaining about how she isn't Black enough or her and her running mate aren't doing enough for Black people. If it's one thing that Black people need to learn how to do still to this day it's win. Niggas don't know how to win. We think all of our wins need to be overwhelmingly popular, or major, or universally agreed on. It's perfectly fine if Black people don't universally agree on shit. W can't even universally agree that LeBron is The GOAT. That's fine. We just need to start winning.

I truly believe that Black people will not prosper until we are in complete power. To me complete power would mean a Black POTUS and a Black VP. Because if that happens it either means that Black people are the loudest and most active voters or we somehow convinced the rest of the country that it's our time now. But when that happens, and we do get that power, we ain't never letting that shit go.................................White people have had it since we were dragged here in chains. I see no reason why we couldn't go on a 450 year run ourselves.

Why do all of this to create our own shit when The Democratic platform is right there for us to take? It's already built. We just need to take it.
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The takeover.

We seen it with the tea party, we seeing it now with MAGA. We just need to establish our own wing within the democratic party. Dont even have to reinvent the wheel, just replicate what is already in existence.
 
Los216 said:
Or we could just vote more black people into the Democratic party.

Look I get all the excitement about creating a new party just for us but niggas need to realize that Black people are The Democratic party. We are the voter base of the party. Why do we have to leave The democratic party and make our own shit or our own Super PAC? How about we actually start running what's already ours? It's right there for us but niggas spend too much time overthinking it.

I mean just think. If Biden wins in November than Kamala is immediately the frontrunner for POTUS in 2024. There are plenty of Black democrats who could be here running mate in 2024. We might actually have an all black ticket. But if that were to happen I have no doubts that niggas would spend more time complaining about how she isn't Black enough or her and her running mate aren't doing enough for Black people. If it's one thing that Black people need to learn how to do still to this day it's win. Niggas don't know how to win. We think all of our wins need to be overwhelmingly popular, or major, or universally agreed on. It's perfectly fine if Black people don't universally agree on shit. W can't even universally agree that LeBron is The GOAT. That's fine. We just need to start winning.

I truly believe that Black people will not prosper until we are in complete power. To me complete power would mean a Black POTUS and a Black VP. Because if that happens it either means that Black people are the loudest and most active voters or we somehow convinced the rest of the country that it's our time now. But when that happens, and we do get that power, we ain't never letting that shit go.................................White people have had it since we were dragged here in chains. I see no reason why we couldn't go on a 450 year run ourselves.

Why do all of this to create our own shit when The Democratic platform is right there for us to take? It's already built. We just need to take it.
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See you went off onto a whole nother tangent that aint really have shit to do with my post. lol

My post simply said to hedge our bets and play both sides for political gain for the collective where it's feasible.

That would INCLUDE voting more black people into the Democratic party. I never said shit about creating a new party or anything like that. We're agreeing more than we're disagreeing but you are twisting into all sorts of shapes to make this a disagreement. Work day is over tho... lol yall got it
 
PhenomTheMac said:
The takeover.

We seen it with the tea party, we seeing it now with MAGA. We just need to establish our own wing within the democratic party. Dont even have to reinvent the wheel, just replicate what is already in existence.
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We already have one.

Black women. The Obama Coalition. That's our wing. If niggas would stop tearing down every black politician because they're not Malcom X they would see this. Black women are our wing in the party. The Obama Coalition is the most popular sector of Democrats. These are people who are barrack and Michelle Obama supporters. That's how Biden is able to ride the wave. He's in the Coalition.

There are other wings in the party like Bernie Sanders and his socialist movement but at the core of that movement is white men and liberal white women. The core of our wing is Black women. This is why I don't understand why Black people allowed movements like ADOS to gain so much traction when they actively divide Black people politically.

But if you look deeper into the whole ADOS movement you'll see that a lot of that shit is rooted in mythical propaganda that says Black women are out to destroy Black men. It's toxic as fuck and it's dividing us.
 
Inori said:
See you went off onto a whole nother tangent that aint really have shit to do with my post. lol

My post simply said to hedge our bets and play both sides for political gain for the collective where it's feasible.

That would INCLUDE voting more black people into the Democratic party. I never said shit about creating a new party or anything like that. We're agreeing more than we're disagreeing but you are twisting into all sorts of shapes to make this a disagreement. Work day is over tho... lol yall got it
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Playing nice with the gop cant happen until they address with the blatant expressed racism of their party. Not a lot of room for black folks next to the proud boys standing back and standing by.

We can and should create lobbying groups using existing organizations and black owned banking institutions to up our political capital. And in doing so we can definitely allow the GOP to make overtures to us once they see the green before they see black.

But we can only ever engage them seriously once they make major concessions to reverse course as the white supremacy haven they are as currently constructed.
 
Inori said:
See you went off onto a whole nother tangent that aint really have shit to do with my post. lol

My post simply said to hedge our bets and play both sides for political gain for the collective where it's feasible.

That would INCLUDE voting more black people into the Democratic party. I never said shit about creating a new party or anything like that. We're agreeing more than we're disagreeing but you are twisting into all sorts of shapes to make this a disagreement. Work day is over tho... lol yall got it
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My point to you is that Republicans have shown us over and over again that there is no political gain there for us with them. I don't know how many different ways they need to show us. Electing Trump should've been the final straw as it was so bold and brazzen but niggas still think that there's some redeemable shit there with Republicans and Black people. It's not.
 
Los216 said:
We already have one.

Black women. The Obama Coalition. That's our wing. If niggas would stop tearing down every black politician because they're not Malcom X they would see this. Black women are our wing in the party. The Obama Coalition is the most popular sector of Democrats. These are people who are barrack and Michelle Obama supporters. That's how Biden is able to ride the wave. He's in the Coalition.

There are other wings in the party like Bernie Sanders and his socialist movement but at the core of that movement is white men and liberal white women. The core of our wing is Black women. This is why I don't understand why Black people allowed movements like ADOS to gain so much traction when they actively divide Black people politically.

But if you look deeper into the whole ADOS movement you'll see that a lot of that shit is rooted in mythical propaganda that says Black women are out to destroy Black men. It's toxic as fuck and it's dividing us.
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It ain't a wing until it is branded and easily understood. Tea party, maga, bernie bros. Disparate as their populations may be they move with consensus. They have easily identifiable champions and agendas. That ain't us.

So yeah we do have a voting bloc but we dont engage the Democrats as one, we got too much divisiveness amongst our ranks. Chiefs and Indians. But yeah consolidating our voting power (and our monetary power) behind our own candidates who can enact our agenda, is absolutely the way forward, both in local politics and nationally.
 
PhenomTheMac said:
Playing nice with the gop cant happen until they address with the blatant expressed racism of their party. Not a lot of room for black folks next to the proud boys standing back and standing by.

We can and should create lobbying groups using existing organizations and black owned banking institutions to up our political capital. And in doing so we can definitely allow the GOP to make overtures to us once they see the green before they see black.

But we can only ever engage them seriously once they make major concessions to reverse course as the white supremacy haven they are as currently constructed.
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I mean.....

They elected Trump and still defend him to this day. At this point it should be painfully obvious to Black people that Republicans have made their beds. No need for us to get in with them. There's no gain to be made.
 
PhenomTheMac said:
It ain't a wing until it is branded and easily understood. Tea party, maga, bernie bros. Disparate as their populations may be they move with consensus. They have easily identifiable champions and agendas. That ain't us.

So yeah we do have a voting bloc but we dont engage the Democrats as one, we got too much divisiveness amongst our ranks. Chiefs and Indians. But yeah consolidating our voting power (and our monetary power) behind our own candidates who can enact our agenda, is absolutely the way forward, both in local politics and nationally.
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It can't be branded until our voices are at the top..............

POTUS
VP

Bernie Bros are branded because like I said before at their core is white men and white men don't play by the same rules as everybody else. The Tea Party and MAGA are branded in racism lol. That is their brand.

In order for our brand to work we have to put our most powerful political figures at the top. That would be Black women and if Black men have a problem with that then maybe we should be more supportive or have quality Black men who could lead.

Right now the best leaders in The Black Community are Black women. Any Black person who denies that is probably being a hater for real.
 
PhenomTheMac said:
Playing nice with the gop cant happen until they address with the blatant expressed racism of their party. Not a lot of room for black folks next to the proud boys standing back and standing by.

We can and should create lobbying groups using existing organizations and black owned banking institutions to up our political capital. And in doing so we can definitely allow the GOP to make overtures to us once they see the green before they see black.

But we can only ever engage them seriously once they make major concessions to reverse course as the white supremacy haven they are as currently constructed.
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Los216 said:
My point to you is that Republicans have shown us over and over again that there is no political gain there for us with them. I don't know how many different ways they need to show us. Electing Trump should've been the final straw as it was so bold and brazzen but niggas still think that there's some redeemable shit there with Republicans and Black people. It's not.
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Inori said:
My post simply said to hedge our bets and play both sides for political gain for the collective where it's feasible.
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Just to be clear im not on some pie in the sky shit where I think Republicans are going to be a viable party for us to fuck with... I'm just saying.. let's not act like their political selfishness, shrewdness and motivations cant be used against them in some way. And that applies to both parties.

Hence me repeating... "Hedging bets"

It may work.. it may not. I aint saying vote for these muhfuckas lol.. I'm saying play them against each other to get the desired outcome
 
Los216 said:
I mean.....

They elected Trump and still defend him to this day. At this point it should be painfully obvious to Black people that Republicans have made their beds. No need for us to get in with them. There's no gain to be made.
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We need to respect the rules of the game.

If we start having conferences as widespread and respected within our community as conservatives have established in their communities, people will take notice. We start setting an agenda and funding it thru pacs? The republicans will want a taste of that for sure. So let them come, but with stipulations. If they dont acquiesce to our demands, then fuck them, we will give our money and support to someone who will.

If in our pursuit for political power we can get republicans to rebuke white supremacy we should negotiate that deal.
 
Inori said:
Just to be clear im not on some pie in the sky shit where I think Republicans are going to be a viable party for us to fuck with... I'm just saying.. let's not act like their their political selfishness, shrewdness and motivations cant be used against them in some way. And that applies to both parties.

Hence me repeating... "Hedging bets"

It may work.. it may not. I aint saying vote for these muhfuckas lol.. I'm saying play them against each other to get the desired outcome
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I know. I'm not tryna Rob Johnson you lol. It's just that with Black people in particular the messaging has to be very, very specific. We are easily swayed politically.
 
PhenomTheMac said:
We need to respect the rules of the game.

If we start having conferences as widespread and respected within our community as conservatives have established in their communities, people will take notice. We start setting an agenda and funding it thru pacs? The republicans will want a taste of that for sure. So let them come, but with stipulations. If they dont acquiesce to our demands, then fuck them, we will give our money and support to someone who will.

If in our pursuit for political power we can get republicans to rebuke white supremacy we should negotiate that deal.
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Black women are already doing those things in our communities. Collectively it's us Black men who are slacking.
 
Los216 said:
It can't be branded until our voices are at the top..............

POTUS
VP

Bernie Bros are branded because like I said before at their core is white men and white men don't play by the same rules as everybody else. The Tea Party and MAGA are branded in racism lol. That is their brand.

In order for our brand to work we have to put our most powerful political figures at the top. That would be Black women and if Black men have a problem with that then maybe we should be more supportive or have quality Black men who could lead.

Right now the best leaders in The Black Community are Black women. Any Black person who denies that is probably being a hater for real.
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Yeah but bernie bros also have organizations such as justice Democrats and our revolution that actively recruit and support their own candidates. That's how you get the squad taking out establishment candidates in their own party.

If we establish and support our own organizations and work to elect our own candidates not just picking from the preapproved list then we can start making waves. So that's what I mean by having our own wing, its gotta be a for us by us situation, not for us by someone else like it is currently.
 
PhenomTheMac said:
Yeah but bernie bros also have organizations such as justice Democrats and our revolution that actively recruit and support their own candidates. That's how you get the squad taking out establishment candidates in their own party.

If we establish and support our own organizations and work to elect our own candidates not just picking from the preapproved list then we can start making waves. So that's what I mean by having our own wing, its gotta be a for us by us situation, not for us by someone else like it is currently.
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Step one would be to consolidate leadership and messaging around specific people. Like Kamal Harris and Michele Obama.

Bernie's movement is ultimately consolidated around him. We would need not one figurehead per say but there needs to be faces and names at the top that can be associated with the movement. Right now there aren't any stronger or more powerful Black women in the country than Kamala or Micelle. One is a former First Lady who's widely popular and the other is the likely next President in 2024. That's not a bad start.
 
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