Bill Gates: Misunderstood philanthropist or Demonic Nerd Villain? His father, his foundation, planned parenthood, GAVI, the W.H.O., Monsanto etc.

[AZTG]

Saying that over population has been disproven a ton of times is an overstatement. Has it been proven that the number of people on the earth can be accomodated with the available resources and farm land? Yes. That pretty much ignores everything associated with human societies around the world. All those calculations are usually very sterile and don't take any of the world's reality into consideration. Climate change, poverty, and dwindling resources are real things. If human society was perfect, maybe they wouldn't exist, but human society isn't perfect and it never will be.

Also, it's been proven that the way we farm actually contributes to desertification, which is a big contributing factor to global warming, so simply having enough farm land isn't a good answer. None of this is as simple as you're implying.

People fucking up the world has nothing to do with resources. People also not getting food has nothing to do with resources.

The world getting fucked up is due to human greed. Global warming was an issue when the world only had 7 billion people. Same with hunger. Same with pollution. And its still happening at 9 billion now.

So controlling human greed is what will reverse the world being destroyed, not bringing down the population, cause its already been proven we had all these issues when we had billions of people less.

Again though, whole different convo. Start a thread and we can post studies by real scientists to see if it has or hasnt been disproven.

 

[DOS_patos]

Never said he was a good person. Matterfact I said he was a piece of shit.

Poor countries having low regulations is wrong, not supported by me, fuck Bill and all other companies who take advantage of them, but thats a different topic.

My whole argument is that Bill isnt trying to take over the world and purposefully killing mfers.

American capitalism is fundamentally based on taking advantage of the poor and defenseless. Every manufactoring US company is in some other country running sweat shops. Ive been against this, even to the point where I argued an 18 year old Mase signing a predatory contract with Diddy isnt Mase's fault. This is all interconnected. American capitalism, take advantage and prey on the poor, defenseless, and ignorant.

None of this makes Bill special, and none of thos is specific to Bill. None of this makes Bill the devil. None of this means Bill is purposefully getting people sick to force vaccines and take over the world.

Bill being a piece of shit and amoral is miles apart from Bill trying to put microchips in you to enslave you. Literally 2 different discussions.

i hear you....im just saying.....

the foundation was working with a university in wuhan since 2018.
wasnt virus related but still health related.
then he just thanked the people in wuhan for their "sacrifices".

not saying he did it......or did anything.....

but i think the nigga is the

 

[The Lonious Monk]

People fucking up the world has nothing to do with resources. People also not getting food has nothing to do with resources.

The world getting fucked up is due to human greed. Global warming was an issue when the world only had 7 billion people. Same with hunger. Same with pollution. And its still happening at 9 billion now.

So controlling human greed is what will reverse the world being destroyed, not bringing down the population, cause its already been proven we had all these issues when we had billions of people less.

Again though, whole different convo. Start a thread and we can post studies by real scientists to see if it has or hasnt been disproven.

I never said the first two things. Although, I disagree with the statement. After all, destroying rainforests to mine for minerals or create more farmland absolutely does play a role in destroying the world and it has everything to do with resources. People that live in lands that have been subject to desertification are having problems growing their own food. That is also a resource problem. Those problems can conceivably be fixed, but to say they have not hing to do with resources is false.

I agree with your statement about greed, but greed and corruption have been part of human society since humans have existed. IMO, the best way to reduce the effects of greed, corruption, and all the other ills related to humans and human society is to keep the human population in check.

 

[AZTG]

I never said the first two things. Although, I disagree with the statement. After all, destroying rainforests to mine for minerals or create more farmland absolutely does play a role in destroying the world and it has everything to do with resources. People that live in lands that have been subject to desertification are having problems growing their own food. That is also a resource problem. Those problems can conceivably be fixed, but to say they have not hing to do with resources is false.

I agree with your statement about greed, but greed and corruption have been part of human society since humans have existed. IMO, the best way to reduce the effects of greed, corruption, and all the other ills related to humans and human society is to keep the human population in check.

You dont see that you are arguing 2 different things though?

We arent deforesing rainforests because we are running out of farmland and need more farmland cause we are running out of resources for the growing population. We are deforesting the rain forest due to greed. Same with desertifcation.

We were debating overpopulation, and Bill killing mfers to decrease the population. The basis of the issue with overpopulation is that we will run out of resources and food due to the growing population.

Now, we are destroying the world, and we are running out of resources but its not because we cant handle the population. We were doing way worse in the 50s to the 2000s when we had less population. We actually have more regulations and have been slowing down deforestation and desertification at 9 billion people than we was at 7 billion.

Its not enough, and republicans in the US and right wingers all over the world want to get rid of the few small worldwide regulations that are in place, but thats a different topic.

All in all, overpopulation itself is not a real issue.

 

[DOS_patos]

he also always talks about the booming population in africa and how it can be slowed with shit.

but if hes working with gmo's and monsanto......thats not good.
are you feeding the people ? if so...why talk about other shit?

@808HiLife808
do you know anything about cargill and monsanto growing crops in hawaii?

 

[SeaSnake]

lol @ you saying I just be saying shit when you're basically admitting in this post that your original response to me had absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Keep it moving man.

it was about population control that was literally in my response you used China as an example and said it was a bad one. Like how are for population control in the US as a minority. Make it make sense

 

[AZTG]

@DOS_patos bruh ima stay out your threads going foward. I stay forgetting average mfers cant debate against me and stay shutting down threads.

Being this smart is harder than it seems, i just make it look effortless

 

[DOS_patos]

@DOS_patos bruh ima stay out your threads going foward. I stay forgetting average mfers cant debate against me and shutting down threads.

Being this smart is harder than it seems, i just make it look effortless

Only way to learn us to teach.
Some people don't know to ask.
Create a debate and talk about things.

If someone is wrong correct the info.

And we all learn and win.

Shit I like being wrong. That's the only way I will learn or correct myself.

 

[AZTG]

Only way to learn us to teach.
Some people don't know to ask.
Create a debate and talk about things.

If someone is wrong correct the info.

And we all learn and win.

Shit I like being wrong. That's the only way I will learn or correct myself.

Why you chose now to respond seriously?

Fuck it. You win this round.

 

[DOS_patos]

Why you chose now to respond seriously?

Fuck it. You win this round.

i dont recall you in the IC debates...i might be wrong.

we need to start up a new one....and before anyone says it...i didnt cheat

 

[The Lonious Monk]

You dont see that you are arguing 2 different things though?

We arent deforesing rainforests because we are running out of farmland and need more farmland cause we are running out of resources for the growing population. We are deforesting the rain forest due to greed. Same with desertifcation.

We were debating overpopulation, and Bill killing mfers to decrease the population. The basis of the issue with overpopulation is that we will run out of resources and food due to the growing population.

Now, we are destroying the world, and we are running out of resources but its not because we cant handle the population. We were doing way worse in the 50s to the 2000s when we had less population. We actually have more regulations and have been slowing down deforestation and desertification at 9 billion people than we was at 7 billion.

Its not enough, and republicans in the US and right wingers all over the world want to get rid of the few small worldwide regulations that are in place, but thats a different topic.

All in all, overpopulation itself is not a real issue.

I'm not really arguing two things. You're just over simplifying the situation. For example, Brazil is cutting down trees to make more farmland out of the need for more food production. That's not solely about greed. Greater food production would help their economy and people. Now if you're saying that they don't need to cut down the forest because other places in the world could produce enough food to cover them, that might be true, but that completely ignores the political realities of human society. My point earlier was that you can't do that.

I never debated anything about Bill. I'm not getting into the conspiracy theory stuff. I just said I don't have a problem with population control. My reasoning is more that I believe humanity is a bit of a blight on the planet moreso that I believe we're going to run out of food or resources in the next decade.

 

[AZTG]

i dont recall you in the IC debates...i might be wrong.

we need to start up a new one....and before anyone says it...i didnt cheat

Nah I didnt. Quarantine got me more active.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

it was about population control that was literally in my response you used China as an example and said it was a bad one. Like how are for population control in the US as a minority. Make it make sense

Bruh, I said I don't have a problem with population control as long as it wasn't done in a racist manner. I didn't say anything about how it might be implemented in the U.S. You responded to me saying that racism is basically the point of population control. You did not say anything about how it might be implemented in the U.S. I pointed out China as a place where population control was put in place with no regard to race. Then you responded by acting like the discussion was always about how it would be done in the U.S. Once again, I never said anything about the U.S. I was just making a general comment about population control.

 

[DOS_patos]

population controls in Asia, india and africa.
easily the most populous continents.

whos missing from the equation?

just saying

 

[VIBE]

You didn’t dispute the information

you disputed a narrative

you calling him a piece of shit still

(those are not my views Mr Microsoft)

and conspiracy theorist are creating their own narrative out of information, but none of it is proving to be factual

idk Bill Gates, I cant judge him in any way, shape or form... but from what I’m seeing, this man seems to genuinely want to “save” the world. He’s taking his money and investing into things we always say the rich should do... but we criticize him for it because we have preconceived notions about rich ppl... this is why these theories are dangerous and do nothing to further society. Keeps everyone ignorant and stuck

 

[DOS_patos]

Nah I didnt. Quarantine got me more active.

so you saying you want smoke?

we can see if we can get them debates up and running again.

i wont run it this time.......

 

[Mafuzzychef]

and conspiracy theorist are creating their own narrative out of information, but none of it is proving to be factual

idk Bill Gates, I cant judge him in any way, shape or form... but from what I’m seeing, this man seems to genuinely want to “save” the world. He’s taking his money and investing into things we always say the rich should do... but we criticize him for it because we have preconceived notions about rich ppl... this is why these theories are dangerous and do nothing to further society. Keeps everyone ignorant and stuck

Lmaooo

bro Why are you quoting me

I go haven’t given an opinion on this. I wanna stay safe

 

[SeaSnake]

Bruh, I said I don't have a problem with population control as long as it wasn't done in a racist manner. I didn't say anything about how it might be implemented in the U.S. You responded to me saying that racism is basically the point of population control. You did not say anything about how it might be implemented in the U.S. I pointed out China as a place where population control was put in place with no regard to race. Then you responded by acting like the discussion was always about how it would be done in the U.S. Once again, I never said anything about the U.S. I was just making a general comment about population control.

ok maybe I went too far but everytime population control is brought up people get defensive because they feel it will target the poor or minorities. China targeted girls.

But it’s definitely weird to be pro population control. That’s for animals man.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

ok maybe I went too far but everytime population control is brought up people get defensive because they feel it will target the poor or minorities. China targeted girls.

But it’s definitely weird to be pro population control. That’s for animals man.

Humans are animals, and until we stop acting in an animalistic manner, I see no reason to treat the species otherwise.

When we get over the greed, selfishness, bigotry, cruelty, etc... that keeps us stuck in savage ways, then maybe my outlook will change, but we both know that's not going to happen in our lifetimes.

 

[SeaSnake]

Humans are animals, and until we stop acting in an animalistic manner, I see no reason to treat the species otherwise.

When we get over the greed, selfishness, bigotry, cruelty, etc... that keeps us stuck in savage ways, then maybe my outlook will change, but we both know that's not going to happen in our lifetimes.

Getting rid of real emotions is impossible people aren’t supposed to be perfect. I get it you’re being a realist because people aren’t altruistic a lot of the time. But once you try and limit population numbers which means you have to stop people from having sex or restrict number of kids people are naturally going to disagree. And if you are being realistic you know as well as I there wouldn’t be any population control that does not take into account ethnicity and nationality. And it’s reasonable to assume if you split the population in half who gets to decide who can reproduce and who can’t. I just don’t see it as a viable option that would benefit humanity