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Trump tried to sell turkey some shit called a f-35 so they wouldn't attack the kurds. Apparently this a high-class jet we are the only ones with it the Chinese stole the blueprint but they couldn't properly make it. This would be a way of him bassicly giving it to putin without actually giving It to him

Heard these planes cost billions and we pay for it doubt he would of charged them that much
 
ghostdenithegawd said:
Trump tried to sell turkey some shit called a f-35 so they wouldn't attack the kurds. Apparently this a high-class jet we are the only ones with it the Chinese stole the blueprint but they couldn't properly make it. This would be a way of him bassicly giving it to putin without actually giving It to him

Heard these planes cost billions and we pay for it doubt he would of charged them that much
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Turkey makes part of the f35.
The US never wanted anyone to have complete designs outside a few NATO partners and Israel.

The f35 is the truth. I can't see it defeating the f22 but its legit.

Vertical takeoff harrier type shit....stealthy, and adaptable for air to air and ground support.

The purchase of Russian missiles began this problem. Partly anyway
 
Nah f-35 is issue is deeper than that.

Turkey is a NATO member. NATO is basically exists to protect western intrests from Russia. NATO does way more, but the main reason for NATOs existince is to combat Russian influence.

With that in mind, Turkey, a NATO member has been getting friendlier and friendlier with Russia and further away from the US.

The F-35 is an American made plane, and every ally of America can purchase them. Turkey being more than just an ally and a NATO member also purchased them. A deal that I remember was in the 100s of billions. With the F-35 Turkey also purchased a surface to air missle system that can defend their airspace from other countries, including Russia.

With all this going on, Turkey also decided to purchase Russian airplanes, called the S-400. So now you have a situation where a NATO member is buying airplanes made by the enemy and also, these airplanes are made specifically to fight the F lines airplanes and also also, Turkey is pumping billions into the Russian economy by buying these airplanes.

So you have a NATO member working with and enriching the enemy that NATO was created to combat.

Going further now, being that Turkey would now have S-400s and F-35s, for the Turkish airforce to be efficient, they would need to integrate the technology for both. And that leads to the biggest issue. By Turkey buying S-400s, they next would have to share the secrets of the f-35 with Russia to get them integrated and working together. And America is not about to share the secrets and technology of the F-35 with Russia.

Thats still a real simple explanation but thats the basics.

So America made an ultimatum and said either dont buy S-400s or we wont sell you F-35s. Turkey called their bluff and still bought S-400s and so America cancelled the hundred plus billion deal with Turkey and Russia won that little battle.
 
AZTG said:
Nah f-35 is issue is deeper than that.

Turkey is a NATO member. NATO is basically exists to protect western intrests from Russia. NATO does way more, but the main reason for NATOs existince is to combat Russian influence.

With that in mind, Turkey, a NATO member has been getting friendlier and friendlier with Russia and further away from the US.

The F-35 is an American made plane, and every ally of America can purchase them. Turkey being more than just an ally and a NATO member also purchased them. A deal that I remember was in the 100s of billions. With the F-35 Turkey also purchased a surface to air missle system that can defend their airspace from other countries, including Russia.

With all this going on, Turkey also decided to purchase Russian airplanes, called the S-400. So now you have a situation where a NATO member is buying airplanes made by the enemy and also, these airplanes are made specifically to fight the F lines airplanes and also also, Turkey is pumping billions into the Russian economy by buying these airplanes.

So you have a NATO member working with and enriching the enemy that NATO was created to combat.

Going further now, being that Turkey would now have S-400s and F-35s, for the Turkish airforce to be efficient, they would need to integrate the technology for both. And that leads to the biggest issue. By Turkey buying S-400s, they next would have to share the secrets of the f-35 with Russia to get them integrated and working together. And America is not about to share the secrets and technology of the F-35 with Russia.

Thats still a real simple explanation but thats the basics.

So America made an ultimatum and said either dont buy S-400s or we wont sell you F-35s. Turkey called their bluff and still bought S-400s and so America cancelled the hundred plus billion deal with Turkey and Russia won that little battle.
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The s400 is an air defence system.
One of the only systems capable of taking down f22s and f35s.

While most of your post is right.....helping the s400 learn the signatures of the US aircrafts.....takes away air superiority. America is built on controlling the air.
Taking the aircrafts away make the carriers presence null and void.

It also makes those angry with America want to purchase those defence systems...thus making America isolated unwillingly in certain ways.
 
DOS_patos said:
The s400 is an air defence system.
One of the only systems capable of taking down f22s and f35s.

While most of your post is right.....helping the s400 learn the signatures of the US aircrafts.....takes away air superiority. America is built on controlling the air.
Taking the aircrafts away make the carriers presence null and void.

It also makes those angry with America want to purchase those defence systems...thus making America isolated unwillingly in certain ways.
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Word. I think the SU-35 is the Russian planes that Turkey is working on purchasing from Russia since America refused to sell the F-35 to them.
 
So tired of hearing about Hillary she got fucked.. People were ignorant, sexist simple minded and that 30 year hate campaign took root in all yards however she is not walking through that door

Also Fanning politicians is disgusting I've been seeing alot of Warren bashing in behalf of kamala, the Bernie and anti Bernie shiy is par for the course it is infuriating


I can scroll my time line and I won't get 5 post before seeing some Anti Warren bs.. Imean thats my preference but I'm not opposed to kamala it's really just about the climate of Stupid superfans overall that's driving me up the wall
 
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This goes back to my previous point about FoxNews moving away from Trump. They probably saw the writing on the wall from this poll and realized people were fed up. They’re not going to tie themselves to a losing proposition. Hence the more “objective” headlines and fewer Trump supporting commenters.

The headline for that Giuliani story said “Giuliani‘a Pals Arrested”. Even CNN just called them his associates.

Trump has served his purpose and is now stepping out of line so they need to get him up out of there.
 
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