Black man forced to kneel in boxers at gunpoint outside his home after police refuse to believe he is not a burglar

SneakDZA said:
Bruh this is America... people break into people's houses with boxers on with a gun. Shit even Robert Downey Jr did that shit and now he's Iron Man.
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Lots of bizarre shit happens in all aspects of life, do you go into situations defaulting to the most bizarre explanation, or do you cycle through the more reasonable options first.

I'm not cop, but if I responded to an alarm situation and found a bewildered man looking half asleep and like he was dressed for bed, I probably wouldn't immediately jump to the conclusion that he's doing a RDJ impression and treat him like a criminal especially when he's telling me its his house. Again, it would have taken them like 5 minutes of listening to get to the truth. There was absolutely no reason for them to handle the situation like they did.
 
AP21 said:
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Yeah that guy was a fucking bozo and the first cop did nothing wrong.

Dude escalated the whole situation for no reason. Like... what the fuck do you think is supposed to happen when your burglar alarm is going off and your front door is open?
 
SneakDZA said:
Yeah that guy was a fucking bozo and the first cop did nothing wrong.

Dude escalated the whole situation for no reason. Like... what the fuck do you think is supposed to happen when your burglar alarm is going off and your front door is open?
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the officer said the door was unlocked, not that it was open

the owner talked to the security company, got the alarm disarmed, and went back to bed

generally, they are supposed to alert the cops that it was a false alarm
 
Call me crazy but maybe saying "hey i live here and it was a false alarm let me show you some ID" instead of repeating "i'm in my draws! I'm in my draws" 100 times would have been a better approach.
 
SneakDZA said:
Call me crazy but maybe saying "hey i live here and it was a false alarm let me show you some ID" instead of repeating "i'm in my draws! I'm in my draws" 100 times would have been a better approach.
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so you thinking all calmly while you have a gun while unknown to you that the person that has entered your home has a gun as well?
 
AP21 said:
the officer said the door was unlocked, not that it was open

the owner talked to the security company, got the alarm disarmed, and went back to bed

generally, they are supposed to alert the cops that it was a false alarm
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IDK
 
AP21 said:
i do

my old company used to dispatch someone and if i called them and gave them the pw, they would alert them it was a false alarm and to turn back
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I dont think we did that at ADT
 
SneakDZA said:
Call me crazy but maybe saying "hey i live here and it was a false alarm let me show you some ID" instead of repeating "i'm in my draws! I'm in my draws" 100 times would have been a better approach.
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Bruh, it is the cops' job to handle situations like this calmly and rationally, not the citizens'. Yes, everyone should try to be calm in situations like this, but the average citizen isn't trained to deal with a police encounter with guns drawn, the cops are. Also, I don't know why you're making it seem like he was acting irrationally. All he did was let the cop know he wasn't in a state fit for outside and asked him why he was so insistent on the man coming out. Even if the cop had a reason to want the man to come outside, he could have easily talked the situation out. The man was complying. There was no reason not to have a discussion there rather than instantly treating the black man as a criminal.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Bruh, it is the cops' job to handle situations like this calmly and rationally, not the citizens'. Yes, everyone should try to be calm in situations like this, but the average citizen isn't trained to deal with a police encounter with guns drawn, the cops are. Also, I don't know why you're making it seem like he was acting irrationally. All he did was let the cop know he wasn't in a state fit for outside and asked him why he was so insistent on the man coming out. Even if the cop had a reason to want the man to come outside, he could have easily talked the situation out. The man was complying. There was no reason not to have a discussion there rather than instantly treating the black man as a criminal.
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I'd say the cop was pretty calm for being alone and responding to an alarm where the door is open and there;s a guy with a gun who seems unable to communicate effectively.

For all that cop knows there was a chick upstairs tied to a bed with a gag in her mouth.

Like I said before.... it was just a really unlucky circumstance but shit happens.
 
SneakDZA said:
I'd say the cop was pretty calm for being alone and responding to an alarm where the door is open and there;s a guy with a gun who seems unable to communicate effectively.

For all that cop knows there was a chick upstairs tied to a bed with a gag in her mouth.

Like I said before.... it was just a really unlucky circumstance but shit happens.
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you keep saying the door was open...HE OPENED IT

it was unlocked
 
He should of let that motherfucker off and said get out my house but in reverse order

Dude ain’t identify hisself when he walked in.
 
Even if cop did nothing wrong, its hard to look at this as an isolated situation.

Its kind of like if I call someone a dog, everyones gonna think I just meant to call the person a dog and nothing else. But if trump calls someone a dog the first thing people will think is hes being racist, cause dude has an extensive history of racism.

This is similar. Maybe cop did nothing wrong and dude was in the wrong but its impossible for me to give cops the benefit of the doubt cause we know how cops treat blacks in America.

If the cops want the benefit of the doubt going forward they have to first make a bunch of reforms and prove they are gonna treat minorities fair going forward. Until I see that its hard to side with the cops in any situation involving minorites in general and black men specifically.
 
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