HarryHippie
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S/o to @5grand who inspired this thread
I haven’t studied the HWs enough to give a conclusive top 5 but I can do the 5 best fighters I’ve seen. This is about fighters you witnessed or studied enough to speak strongly on.
In no order
Roy Jones Jr(A mutant. His boxing IQ was high, a lot of people get that wrong. He just wasn’t fundamental which came back to bite him. Most gifted man I’ve seen in a ring. Imagine a Charlo who is regarded as a top good fighter trying to fuck with Roy relying on a 1,2 and counterpunching. He defeated two of the top technicians ever in Toney/Hopkins and was too quick to rush
Floyd Mayweather (Opportunist second half of his career to maximize profit. Not the greatest but he’s live with anybody in history. Testament that book smart ain’t the only way to be smart. Causally outthinks his opponents with a subtle pop. My favorite fight and what I call peak Floyd was him against Cotto. He went in there to stop him so he closed distance Damn near from round 1. Cotto tried to be physical with him as best he could and got touched up all night. Surprised Floyd cause Floyd thought he was mentally weaker than he showed. He could’ve coasted from distance to the same wide scores but chose to mix it up and still out classed a Hall of a Famer
Manny Pacquiao (the PED rumors and signs bother me but he ain’t get caught so I ain’t putting it on him. This man started at fly weight and fought as high as 152. Step in the ring with anybody, no hesitation. Dumbbells in his gloves, rapid punches from all angles, footwork. His 147 resume is better than Floyd’s. That’s insane. All time, I possibly rank him ahead of Floyd despite losing to him.
Margarito after this beating looked on his way to breaking Cotto in a rematch eerily similar to the first fight until it was stopped due to a damaged eye from this fight which ultimately retired him despite comeback attempts. 40 pounds above the weight Manny went pro at
Bernard Hopkins(hard to keep him out my top 5, all time great but also an opportunist. Master at taking your best attribute away from you. If you’re not balanced fighter or extremely gifted, he’s going to embarrass you.
My sleeper...... Deontay Wilder( This fool got ancestor power. He descended from giants and carry their strength. I don’t think a HW not named Ali, Foreman, light maybe on Vitali has a chance beating him in a best of 3. Unless you keep your gloves to your face all night, That man is going to touch you clean and it’s going to hurt. You may not get up. If youre short, you gotta avoid that Jab and avoid getting measured for the Thanos snap. I love the science of this shit but dumbed all the way down, it’s about putting hands on somebody.
Fury did more showboating than work in the ring. IDC that Wilder missing, he not being made to pay for iT and he touching Fury in between the missing. For every 2 jabs from Fury, he putting that bang on him. 40-50 lbs heavier in the ring and that man wants no part of the Infinity glove. Fury is impressive, a 6’9 man shouldn’t have that type of wiggle. Wlad ruled the division 10 years and couldn’t put him down, Wilder did it twice
HM: Andre Ward(I took him off last minute for B Hop, couldn’t do it. Credit for tournament run at 168 but a lot of picking and choosing/ non activity afterwards. Just misses the cut. Just didn’t do enough.
I haven’t studied the HWs enough to give a conclusive top 5 but I can do the 5 best fighters I’ve seen. This is about fighters you witnessed or studied enough to speak strongly on.
In no order
Roy Jones Jr(A mutant. His boxing IQ was high, a lot of people get that wrong. He just wasn’t fundamental which came back to bite him. Most gifted man I’ve seen in a ring. Imagine a Charlo who is regarded as a top good fighter trying to fuck with Roy relying on a 1,2 and counterpunching. He defeated two of the top technicians ever in Toney/Hopkins and was too quick to rush
Floyd Mayweather (Opportunist second half of his career to maximize profit. Not the greatest but he’s live with anybody in history. Testament that book smart ain’t the only way to be smart. Causally outthinks his opponents with a subtle pop. My favorite fight and what I call peak Floyd was him against Cotto. He went in there to stop him so he closed distance Damn near from round 1. Cotto tried to be physical with him as best he could and got touched up all night. Surprised Floyd cause Floyd thought he was mentally weaker than he showed. He could’ve coasted from distance to the same wide scores but chose to mix it up and still out classed a Hall of a Famer
Manny Pacquiao (the PED rumors and signs bother me but he ain’t get caught so I ain’t putting it on him. This man started at fly weight and fought as high as 152. Step in the ring with anybody, no hesitation. Dumbbells in his gloves, rapid punches from all angles, footwork. His 147 resume is better than Floyd’s. That’s insane. All time, I possibly rank him ahead of Floyd despite losing to him.
Margarito after this beating looked on his way to breaking Cotto in a rematch eerily similar to the first fight until it was stopped due to a damaged eye from this fight which ultimately retired him despite comeback attempts. 40 pounds above the weight Manny went pro at
Bernard Hopkins(hard to keep him out my top 5, all time great but also an opportunist. Master at taking your best attribute away from you. If you’re not balanced fighter or extremely gifted, he’s going to embarrass you.
My sleeper...... Deontay Wilder( This fool got ancestor power. He descended from giants and carry their strength. I don’t think a HW not named Ali, Foreman, light maybe on Vitali has a chance beating him in a best of 3. Unless you keep your gloves to your face all night, That man is going to touch you clean and it’s going to hurt. You may not get up. If youre short, you gotta avoid that Jab and avoid getting measured for the Thanos snap. I love the science of this shit but dumbed all the way down, it’s about putting hands on somebody.
Fury did more showboating than work in the ring. IDC that Wilder missing, he not being made to pay for iT and he touching Fury in between the missing. For every 2 jabs from Fury, he putting that bang on him. 40-50 lbs heavier in the ring and that man wants no part of the Infinity glove. Fury is impressive, a 6’9 man shouldn’t have that type of wiggle. Wlad ruled the division 10 years and couldn’t put him down, Wilder did it twice
HM: Andre Ward(I took him off last minute for B Hop, couldn’t do it. Credit for tournament run at 168 but a lot of picking and choosing/ non activity afterwards. Just misses the cut. Just didn’t do enough.