Benjamin E
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Many of you may or may not know the story of The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony and how The Rolling Stones took them for all they were worth, but those in the know may fail to understand how fucked up this case was.
I was inspired to revisit this by the Blurred Lines case, which is even mentioned in this article.
"Bitter Sweet Symphony," by the Verve (1997) vs. "The Last Time," by the Rolling Stones (written by Mick Jagger, Keith Richards) (1965)
The Case: The Verve had a major smash with their dreamy "Bittersweet Symphony." Vocalist Richard Ashcroft penned the song's lyrics, but the instrumental backing was partially sampled from a symphonic version of the Rolling Stones' song "The Last Time," recorded in 1965 by the Andrew Oldham Orchestra. The band had originally agreed to license a five-note segment of the recording in exchange for 50 percent of the royalties, but former Rolling Stones' manager Allen Klein claimed the Verve voided the agreement by using a larger section than they agreed to use. ABKCO Records, Klein's holding company, filed a plagiarism suit on behalf of himself and "The Last Time" songwriters Mick Jagger and Keith Richards.
The Verdict: The Verve forfeited all of the songwriting royalties and publishing rights to ABKCO, and the song credit reverted to Jagger and Richards. "We were told it was going to be a 50/50 split," recalled Verve bassist Simon Jones. "Then they saw how well the record was doing. They rung up and said we want 100 percent or take it out of the shops, you don't have much choice."
Andrew Loog Oldham, another former Stones manager who owned the actual recording that was sampled, sued the band in 1999 for $1.7 million in mechanical royalties. In the end, the Verve lost all control of their biggest hit. It was used in a Nike commercial against their wishes, earning them no money and crushing their sense of artistic integrity. "I'm still sick about it," Ashcroft said in later years. The final insult came when "Bittersweet Symphony" was nominated for a "Best Song" Grammy – with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards named on the ballot.
Why It Matters: The saga of "Bittersweet Symphony" can either be viewed as a cautionary tale or one of the most unjust chapters in musical copyright history. Though the Verve sampled a cover of a Rolling Stones' song, it was a portion written by orchestra arranger David Whitaker – who was not credited on any of the recordings.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/...the-verve-vs-the-rolling-stones-1997-20160608
Fucked up right?
Now, listen to the original song in question...
Does that sound anything like Bittersweet Symphony? No, that's because The Verve didn't sample it, the sampled this...
That's the orchestral version of the song was "inspired" by the Rolling Stones song, so they own it even if they had nothing to do with it's arrangement...
So yeah, you hear it... and The Verve reached out, because they sampled this version of the song...
But, do you hear the iconic violin notes from the hook of Bittersweet Symphony? No, that was all The Verve...
They came up with the best, most memorable part of the song and still got all the credit and royalties taken from them...
Ain't that some shit?
I was inspired to revisit this by the Blurred Lines case, which is even mentioned in this article.
"Bitter Sweet Symphony," by the Verve (1997) vs. "The Last Time," by the Rolling Stones (written by Mick Jagger, Keith Richards) (1965)
The Case: The Verve had a major smash with their dreamy "Bittersweet Symphony." Vocalist Richard Ashcroft penned the song's lyrics, but the instrumental backing was partially sampled from a symphonic version of the Rolling Stones' song "The Last Time," recorded in 1965 by the Andrew Oldham Orchestra. The band had originally agreed to license a five-note segment of the recording in exchange for 50 percent of the royalties, but former Rolling Stones' manager Allen Klein claimed the Verve voided the agreement by using a larger section than they agreed to use. ABKCO Records, Klein's holding company, filed a plagiarism suit on behalf of himself and "The Last Time" songwriters Mick Jagger and Keith Richards.
The Verdict: The Verve forfeited all of the songwriting royalties and publishing rights to ABKCO, and the song credit reverted to Jagger and Richards. "We were told it was going to be a 50/50 split," recalled Verve bassist Simon Jones. "Then they saw how well the record was doing. They rung up and said we want 100 percent or take it out of the shops, you don't have much choice."
Andrew Loog Oldham, another former Stones manager who owned the actual recording that was sampled, sued the band in 1999 for $1.7 million in mechanical royalties. In the end, the Verve lost all control of their biggest hit. It was used in a Nike commercial against their wishes, earning them no money and crushing their sense of artistic integrity. "I'm still sick about it," Ashcroft said in later years. The final insult came when "Bittersweet Symphony" was nominated for a "Best Song" Grammy – with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards named on the ballot.
Why It Matters: The saga of "Bittersweet Symphony" can either be viewed as a cautionary tale or one of the most unjust chapters in musical copyright history. Though the Verve sampled a cover of a Rolling Stones' song, it was a portion written by orchestra arranger David Whitaker – who was not credited on any of the recordings.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/...the-verve-vs-the-rolling-stones-1997-20160608
Fucked up right?
Now, listen to the original song in question...
Does that sound anything like Bittersweet Symphony? No, that's because The Verve didn't sample it, the sampled this...
That's the orchestral version of the song was "inspired" by the Rolling Stones song, so they own it even if they had nothing to do with it's arrangement...
So yeah, you hear it... and The Verve reached out, because they sampled this version of the song...
But, do you hear the iconic violin notes from the hook of Bittersweet Symphony? No, that was all The Verve...
They came up with the best, most memorable part of the song and still got all the credit and royalties taken from them...
Ain't that some shit?
