Is The Jon B & Tupac Collab The First RnB/Rap Ballad?

[Goldie]

I'm not talking about the uptempo joints like MJB/Biggie's Real Love, I'm talking about a rapper on a slow RnB track.

I saw an interview with Jon B and he was talking about how the label didn't want him to do a song with a rapper because it was out of the norm and other reasons. Then he said it might be the first rnb/rap ballad and I couldn't think of any others before it.








Interview:

 

[5th Letter]

 

[Goldie]

That's a rap song, with singers on the hook

 

[Goldie]

I'm talkin about rnb ballads

 

[5th Letter]

That's a rap song, with singers on the hook

Goal post moving?

 

[Duwop]

would this count?

 

[Playmaker88]

I never heard this

:wtff:

 

[Goldie]

Goal post moving?

I made the thread, how am i moving the question i asked lol

 

[5th Letter]

I made the thread, how am i moving the question i asked lol

Never specified but you got it. I don’t want no trouble

 

[Goldie]

I didn't explain it properly in the OP.


I'm talking about an RNB SONG by an RNB singer featuring a rapper.

 

[313 Wayz]

I would say its the first popular one, there have been countless others before but this is the one I can think of off top

 

[Duwop]

so what miche'lle don't count?

the rap bars were kinda more like poetry, but the shit rhymed

 

[Goldie]

I would say its the first popular one, there have been countless others before but this is the one I can think of off top

Never heard of this shit before lol

 

[5 Grand]

Listen to Sugarhill Gang's first album. It came out in 1980.

And when you're finished with that, listen to Kurtis Blow's first album. Without doing a giigle search, I'm pretty sure that came out in 1980 too.

And then there's Grandmaster Flash and The Furious 5's first album.

And UTFO's first album.

And then you have Whistle. They started off as a rap group. They had a song called Buggin Out/Nothin Serious. But they switched to an R&B group and had a ballad called Always and Forever that was pretty popular.

 

[Maywood]

Listen to Sugarhill Gang's first album. It came out in 1980.

And when you're finished with that, listen to Kurtis Blow's first album. Without doing a giigle search, I'm pretty sure that came out in 1980 too.

And then there's Grandmaster Flash and The Furious 5's first album.

And UTFO's first album.

And then you have Whistle. They started off as a rap group. They had a song called Buggin Out/Nothin Serious. But they switched to an R&B group and had a ballad called Always and Forever that was pretty popular.

No Mutha Fucka

 

[Maywood]

 

[5 Grand]

This song is a lot better than I remembered it




This next song is just as bad as I remembered it




And now you know why Run DMC changed the game and is a top 5 rap group a Sugarhill Gang ISN'T a top 5 rap group

 

[5 Grand]

Here's another song from their first album




At the time (1980) I was pissed because I wanted them to rap all the way through the whole album.


But now that I'm in my 40s, these R&B songs aren't that bad

 

[5 Grand]

Here's that group Whistle I was talking about. They started off as a rap group and switched to an R&B group.