Gender: only two or a spectrum between two?

[Soul_Rattler]

Social engineering at its worst

 

[Chicity]

This shit stupid

 

[konceptjones]

you're not assigned anything at birth. your sex is merely observed. And for all that, you find that out during the ultrasound visits.

 

[Rubato]

I don’t have the energy to try and convince somebody otherwise if they think they are something other than man or woman, so whatever, do you.

Also, I’m a dinosaur.

 

[LUCIEN]

Gender is as meaningful or as meaningless as you wanna make it since it does not actually exist outside of our heads, it's just something we use to categorize the world, similar to race.

 

[konceptjones]

Gender is as meaningful or as meaningless as you wanna make it since it does not actually exist outside of our heads, it's just something we use to categorize the world, similar to race.

Sex exists, gender doesn't. The whole concept of gender applied to humans is completely unnecessary and has only confused people.

 

[WhiteFace]

 

[B_A]

It's clearly a human affliction, which should be our very first clue.

 

[Playmaker88]

Boy
Girl

 

[konceptjones]

 

[Rubato]

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The B is bisexual not bigender..

 

[konceptjones]

The B is bisexual not bigender..

The context that people use gender these days is as if it's inherently the same as sex. This is where the whole "assigned at birth" comes from.

 

[LUCIEN]

The context that people use gender these days is as if it's inherently the same as sex. This is where the whole "assigned at birth" comes from.

Gender is based on sex though. I was taught that gender is "the cultural interpretation of sex". People who use them as though they're the same just make things more complicated than they need to be

 

[konceptjones]

Gender is based on sex though. I was taught that gender is "the cultural interpretation of sex". People who use them as though they're the same just make things more complicated than they need to be

If that was true then there wouldn't be such a thing as "transgender" because sex is immutable. Ergo, if it can't be changed, then gender cannot be changed and therefore "gender" is still unnecessary.

 

[CeLLar-DooR]

Gender is based on sex though. I was taught that gender is "the cultural interpretation of sex". People who use them as though they're the same just make things more complicated than they need to be

Which means there are only two

 

[LUCIEN]

If that was true then there wouldn't be such a thing as "transgender" because sex is immutable. Ergo, if it can't be changed, then gender cannot be changed and therefore "gender" is still unnecessary.

I don't think that makes sense man. If society says males have to be manly and being manly means you have a dick and have short hair and muscles then they're still transgender if they do those things to be more manlike.

Sex is immutable but gender changes. The way we expected men and women to look and behave has changed, but sex is still mostly defined by what's in between our legs

 

[LUCIEN]

Which means there are only two

There can be more than one interpretation though. That's how these gender studies people get ya, they sneak that postmodernism in there and then they make up whatever they want

 

[CeLLar-DooR]

There can be more than one interpretation though. That's how these gender studies people get ya, they sneak that postmodernism in there and then they make up whatever they want

Any interpretation of gender would be based off of the two biological sexes tho'. I've said before that I think this is all pretty gratuitous; you're a boy or you're a girl

 

[LUCIEN]

Any interpretation of gender would be based off of the two biological sexes tho'. I've said before that I think this is all pretty gratuitous; you're a boy or you're a girl

Yeah I guess so. There's also intersex people. Men with ovaries. Women with penises and vaginas and breasts and wide hips.

These categories aren't real life, they're just tools to help us think about these things we encounter. I think that's the biggest piss off for me is that there's a ton of people who act like their gender is the most important thing when it's just theory

 

[Dwayne]

Yeah I guess so. There's also intersex people. Men with ovaries. Women with penises and vaginas and breasts and wide hips.

These categories aren't real life, they're just tools to help us think about these things we encounter. I think that's the biggest piss off for me is that there's a ton of people who act like their gender is the most important thing when it's just theory

Thats a damn defect bruh