COMMUNITY Does your city have flock cameras?

[AP4.0]

A whole lot of "I'm alright with losing privacy for safety"

That's not what I'm saying at all though

 

[RandomOne]

That's not what I'm saying at all though

Oh ok. Explain then? Because that's the vibe I was getting from you mainly

 

[deadeye]

It's been a huge discussion in my area. My county and counties nearby have put up flock cameras. They're supposed to be there to get license plates and if there are crimes in the area then it's supposed to help police but people feel it's a huge invasion of privacy and very Big Brother

There are lawsuits

Flock’s Aggressive Expansions Go Far Beyond Simple Driver Surveillance | ACLU

Build it (an authoritarian tracking infrastructure) and they (expanded uses) will come

www.aclu.org

A federal judge ruled Norfolk’s Flock surveillance cameras don’t invade people’s privacy – yet

The judge wrote that these cameras don’t violate people’s rights but warned they could in the future. Privacy advocates say that future is already here.

www.whro.org

Flock License Plate Cameras Face Class Action Lawsuit by Gibbs Mura, A Law Group

Oakland-based law firm Gibbs Mura has filed a class action lawsuit against Flock Safety for allegedly using its license plate cameras to share millions of Californians’ daily movements with law enforcement agencies, violating…

www.classlawgroup.com

DeFlock

Find license plate readers (LPRs) near you.

deflock.org

You can find out if they're in your area

Never heard of flock cameras.

But I've always assumed that all cities have been under some kind of video surveillance for years.

 

[konceptjones]

I agree but it's in public places. One should expect only so much privacy in a public area

Still need probable cause or a warrant to track our whereabouts in public; this ain't England.

 

[Inori]

Still need probable cause or a warrant to track our whereabouts in public; this ain't England.

how is this different from traffic cameras that can send you tickets for running red lights n shit. Havent those been in place for decades now?

 

[RandomOne]

how is this different from traffic cameras that can send you tickets for running red lights n shit. Havent those been in place for decades now?

There are lawsuits for that too because of violating the 6th amendment and due process

 

[konceptjones]

how is this different from traffic cameras that can send you tickets for running red lights n shit. Havent those been in place for decades now?

A lot of municipalities have removed them. From what I just read, there's only 18 states and DC with them nowadays and there's always been legal/constitutional challenges against them.

 

[AP4.0]

Oh ok. Explain then? Because that's the vibe I was getting from you mainly

Ijs I understand it from both sides

For what I just paid for this house or rather the loan I got for it, I'm not trying to have no one take my shit or break into it. I also speak from a place of privilege cause I do not live in an area that is prone to crime, which was very intentional among other things I wanted in a new community.

But I would still like to know who took my shit in the event of a burglary and I'm gonna press charges. The sooner they can identify a suspect the better

But everyone can't live where I live. Or maybe they can't afford a decent security camera setup. There's always gonna be a trade off for things in the name of safety imo

 

[Inori]

Im not with the surveillance shit at all but if we being honest with ourselves.. between home security systems(ring,eufy,nest), cellphones, car cameras..laptops and tablets... companies and the govt already got access to all that shit

 

[RandomOne]

Ijs I understand it from both sides

For what I just paid for this house or rather the loan I got for it, I'm not trying to have no one take my shit or break into it. I also speak from a place of privilege cause I do not live in an area that is prone to crime, which was very intentional among other things I wanted in a new community.

But I would still like to know who took my shit in the event of a burglary and I'm gonna press charges. The sooner they can identify a suspect the better

But everyone can't live where I live. Or maybe they can't afford a decent security camera setup. There's always gonna be a trade off for things in the name of safety imo

I mean you're talking about different types of surveillance though. Home surveillance for protecting your property vs surveillance with driving down the street or walking the sidewalks

 

[RandomOne]

Im not with the surveillance shit at all but if we being honest with ourselves.. between home security systems(ring,eufy,nest), cellphones, car cameras..laptops and tablets... companies and the govt already got access to all that shit

I've seen this comment a lot. The whole why do you care if you're getting spied on by something else

So because those spy then who cares if another thing gets added

 

[Inori]

I've seen this comment a lot. The whole why do you care if you're getting spied on by something else

So because those spy then who cares if another thing gets added

dont misunderstand my sentiment. Im not asking why do you care. I care as well. Im just pointing out that the shit is already happening

 

[LexDiamond1995]

Minority Report...fuk tha flock