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Disney CEO Bob Iger was the latest to leap to the defense of Marvel movies in the recent civil war among filmmakers over the blockbusters, pointing to Ryan Coogler’s Best Picture-nominated “Black Panther” as worthy as being called “cinema” as any film Martin Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola have made.

Iger got heated on the subject as part of the WSJ Tech Live event Tuesday night after both Scorsese, Coppola and a handful of other auteur filmmakers have criticized the movies, with Coppola most recently calling the films “despicable.”

“I’m puzzled by it. If they want to bitch about movies it’s certainly their right. It seems so disrespectful to all the people who work on those films who are working just as hard as the people who are working on their films and are putting their creative souls on the line just like they are,” Iger said of filmmakers’ comments. “Are you telling me that Ryan Coogler making ‘Black Panther’ is doing something that somehow or another is less than anything Marty Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola have ever done on any one of their movies? Come on.”

Iger says he holds Coppola and Scorsese in “the highest regard,” but he took issue with Coppola’s characterization of the films as “despicable,” and that he’d only reserve that word “for someone who had committed mass murder.”


“When Francis uses the words ‘those films are despicable,’ to whom is he talking? Is he talking to Kevin Feige who runs Marvel, or Taika Waititi who directs or Ryan Coogler who directs for us or Scarlett Johansson,” Iger said. “I don’t get what they’re criticizing us for when we’re making films that people are obviously enjoying going to because they’re doing so by the millions.”

Scorsese recently doubled down on his comments when he said that Marvel movies were not cinema and compared them to “theme parks.” He ultimately said that Marvel’s films were “invading” movie theaters and replacing what young people’s idea of cinema is, even driving out smaller films and more human stories from the popular culture.

Ken Loach, the British director behind “Kes” and the recent “Sorry We Missed You,” more specifically attacked the commercialism of Marvel films rather than their content specifically.

“They’re made as commodities like hamburgers, and it’s not about communicating, and it’s not about sharing our imagination,” Loach told Sky News. “It’s about making a commodity which will make a profit for a big corporation – they’re a cynical exercise. They’re a market exercise, and it has nothing to do with the art of cinema. William Blake said, ‘When money is discussed, art is impossible.'”

Iger however had a response for that as well, saying that there’s a mutual benefit in the success of the Marvel films and other blockbusters that allows movie theaters to exhibit movies that otherwise wouldn’t be as financially successful.
 
I’d say, “I’ll care about his opinion when he starts killing the box office like Marvel films do.”
 
“They’re made as commodities like hamburgers, and it’s not about communicating, and it’s not about sharing our imagination,” Loach told Sky News. “It’s about making a commodity which will make a profit for a big corporation – they’re a cynical exercise. They’re a market exercise, and it has nothing to do with the art of cinema. William Blake said, ‘When money is discussed, art is impossible.'”

FOH. I sure he ain't make not 1 of his unknown movies, for free.

And whatever money his did make from them, his ass ain't give it back "in the name of art"
 
Iger however had a response for that as well, saying that there’s a mutual benefit in the success of the Marvel films and other blockbusters that allows movie theaters to exhibit movies that otherwise wouldn’t be as financially successful.


AKA "If my movies wasn't making boat loads of money, you'd be delivering pizzas. ass clown"
 

Disney CEO Bob Iger was the latest to leap to the defense of Marvel movies in the recent civil war among filmmakers over the blockbusters, pointing to Ryan Coogler’s Best Picture-nominated “Black Panther” as worthy as being called “cinema” as any film Martin Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola have made.

Iger got heated on the subject as part of the WSJ Tech Live event Tuesday night after both Scorsese, Coppola and a handful of other auteur filmmakers have criticized the movies, with Coppola most recently calling the films “despicable.”

“I’m puzzled by it. If they want to bitch about movies it’s certainly their right. It seems so disrespectful to all the people who work on those films who are working just as hard as the people who are working on their films and are putting their creative souls on the line just like they are,” Iger said of filmmakers’ comments. “Are you telling me that Ryan Coogler making ‘Black Panther’ is doing something that somehow or another is less than anything Marty Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola have ever done on any one of their movies? Come on.”

Iger says he holds Coppola and Scorsese in “the highest regard,” but he took issue with Coppola’s characterization of the films as “despicable,” and that he’d only reserve that word “for someone who had committed mass murder.”


“When Francis uses the words ‘those films are despicable,’ to whom is he talking? Is he talking to Kevin Feige who runs Marvel, or Taika Waititi who directs or Ryan Coogler who directs for us or Scarlett Johansson,” Iger said. “I don’t get what they’re criticizing us for when we’re making films that people are obviously enjoying going to because they’re doing so by the millions.”

Scorsese recently doubled down on his comments when he said that Marvel movies were not cinema and compared them to “theme parks.” He ultimately said that Marvel’s films were “invading” movie theaters and replacing what young people’s idea of cinema is, even driving out smaller films and more human stories from the popular culture.

Ken Loach, the British director behind “Kes” and the recent “Sorry We Missed You,” more specifically attacked the commercialism of Marvel films rather than their content specifically.

“They’re made as commodities like hamburgers, and it’s not about communicating, and it’s not about sharing our imagination,” Loach told Sky News. “It’s about making a commodity which will make a profit for a big corporation – they’re a cynical exercise. They’re a market exercise, and it has nothing to do with the art of cinema. William Blake said, ‘When money is discussed, art is impossible.'”

Iger however had a response for that as well, saying that there’s a mutual benefit in the success of the Marvel films and other blockbusters that allows movie theaters to exhibit movies that otherwise wouldn’t be as financially successful.

Iger trying to get these dudes canceled lol. He used all the right triggers.

This is some tactical shit. I like it.
 
idk he sounds mad, but im used to overly cool rap beef responses so I was expecting more:


"Scor who? and he does movies?.........*adjusts chain and piece*...... but Black Widow, 2020 baby.....we got a lil mutant mixtape droppin before that, you know....just grindin man"
 
Iger says he holds Coppola and Scorsese in “the highest regard,” but he took issue with Coppola’s characterization of the films as “despicable,” and that he’d only reserve that word “for someone who had committed mass murder.”
:foh3:

Playing victim and whilst riding on his high horse
 
Nah that's that Jewish shit. Making thinly veiled references to the Holocaust.


Both sides have a point though. Cause at the end of the day, the MCU films range from spectacular cinema to flaming trash AKA Ant man and the Wasp.

Learn sarcasm or stop quoting me please.
I don't care about this lol.
 
Nah that's that Jewish shit. Making thinly veiled references to the Holocaust.


Both sides have a point though. Cause at the end of the day, the MCU films range from spectacular cinema to flaming trash AKA Ant man and the Wasp.
He doesnt have a point. FFC dont got no duds? Scorsese dont got no duds?

To try to lump all Marvel movies in one big trash bag is stupid. Infinity War was a great piece of ART. BP was a great piece of ART. Winter Soldier and Civil War were great pieces of ART. All 22 films, from the great ones to the meh ones, collectively are great pieces of ART

FFC and Scorsese created just as much fantasy in they Italian movies as any Marvel flick, the only difference is Marvel told you the shit is imaginary.

They on a high horse like most old folks when you find yaself getting pushed out. They 'it' thing now is a Marvel screening, wild social media press, crazy over nighters at RDJ home where they bumping top 40 rap and house music and really these old ass haters wanna be down but they cant be

Glad Iger called them on they shit.
 
He doesnt have a point. FFC dont got no duds? Scorsese dont got no duds?

To try to lump all Marvel movies in one big trash bag is stupid. Infinity War was a great piece of ART. BP was a great piece of ART. Winter Soldier and Civil War were great pieces of ART. All 22 films, from the great ones to the meh ones, collectively are great pieces of ART

FFC and Scorsese created just as much fantasy in they Italian movies as any Marvel flick, the only difference is Marvel told you the shit is imaginary.

They on a high horse like most old folks when you find yaself getting pushed out. They 'it' thing now is a Marvel screening, wild social media press, crazy over nighters at RDJ home where they bumping top 40 rap and house music and really these old ass haters wanna be down but they cant be

Glad Iger called them on they shit.
Operative word is "all".

Did Scorsese ever say "all"? Or did he make a general statement that obviously doesn't apply to all of the MCU films?
 
Nah that's that Jewish shit. Making thinly veiled references to the Holocaust.


Both sides have a point though. Cause at the end of the day, the MCU films range from spectacular cinema to flaming trash AKA Ant man and the Wasp.


He does not have a point at all

Like you said, it range from spectacular cinema to flaming trash CINEMA.


Its all still cinema
 
Not to defend Marvel, but why didnt he say this about Adam Sandler movies, or Seth Rogan Movies, or Judd Apatow movies? Or dude who did Transformer movies, or fast and furious movies, theres like 8 of em.

And I dont like the head of Disney using Black Panther for cover. That's nasty, stand on your pile of money, dont hide behind veiled racism.
 
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