Cardi B & Atlantic Records Faking #s?
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onetoughmiracle
AYO, PUT THAT RZA SHIT BACK ON!!!
Preach2Teach
Member
Faking album sales has been a thing for a very long time they did that shit with vinyl so it's gonna be even easier with streams.
onetoughmiracle
AYO, PUT THAT RZA SHIT BACK ON!!!
Didn't they accuse Baby of faking album sales when the Carter 3 came out?
Lou Cypher
The Tokin' White Guy
I want to say i recall that. I also recall one of Jay's albums having hundreds of thousands of units purchased by Def Jam when it released. This was post black album if im not mistaken. Swear i remember seeing an article on AHH about it.
Soul_Rattler
Active Member
You're probably talking about the Samsung deal that got Magna Carta a platinum certification before it released.
Until the general public becomes more savvy with the way streams and sales are quantified, I'd relax on calling foul. It gets to a point where artists and labels are accused of "cheating" for just getting ahead of the curve of the industry.
Pull back and ask yourself why you even care about album sales as a fan. It's not just a bragging right and talking point.
Lou Cypher
The Tokin' White Guy
Nah i remember the Magna Carta stuff going on phones and what not. the shit i was talking about was while jay was president over at def jam. I could totally be mistaking the artist/event though as it was awhile ago. I'll try finding into on it before i head home.
Lou Cypher
The Tokin' White Guy
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.11717/...plains-how-labels-buy-back-their-own-product#
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...s-foul-kanye-west-sale-total-article-1.245547
After helping launch the careers of artists like Naughty By Nature, Digital Underground and De La Soul at Tommy Boy Records, Tom Silverman now wants to introduce a business model that will split revenue and costs with artists 50-50. But, he says the current business model, which includes a lot of alleged shady accounting, and payola needs to be scrapped. In an interview with Wired.com, Silverman also explained how and why labels buy their own product in bulk.
“If they buy 50,000 songs, we’re talking $50,000 less 70 percent, so it would cost about $15,000,” Silverman explained. “For $15,000 in a week, they can buy 50,000 more song downloads, which could drive the record up three or four positions on the chart. And they hype of it all would make people believe it, and then the next week it would be real, which is what always used to happen.”
This is hardly the first time labels have been accused of buying their own artists album to boost sales, with the most recent being 50 leveling similar accusations against Def Jam.
“They could have only one scan and have it count four times,” 50 told UK magazine Uncut, after losing a domestic sales competition to Kanye West in 2007. “West’s entire career hasn’t sold half what I sold on my first album.”
No one has actually proven labels buy their own product to boost sales, and technically the process is not illegal. Additionally, The Wall St. Journal reports the figures may be inaccurate even if some labels aren’t buying their own artist’s material.
“Record labels don’t always request certification, and sales might not be tracked for more than a short period of time after an album is released,” states Carl Bialik of the Journal. “On the other hand, the certified numbers might overstate sales if stores order more albums than they are able to sell.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...s-foul-kanye-west-sale-total-article-1.245547
After helping launch the careers of artists like Naughty By Nature, Digital Underground and De La Soul at Tommy Boy Records, Tom Silverman now wants to introduce a business model that will split revenue and costs with artists 50-50. But, he says the current business model, which includes a lot of alleged shady accounting, and payola needs to be scrapped. In an interview with Wired.com, Silverman also explained how and why labels buy their own product in bulk.
“If they buy 50,000 songs, we’re talking $50,000 less 70 percent, so it would cost about $15,000,” Silverman explained. “For $15,000 in a week, they can buy 50,000 more song downloads, which could drive the record up three or four positions on the chart. And they hype of it all would make people believe it, and then the next week it would be real, which is what always used to happen.”
This is hardly the first time labels have been accused of buying their own artists album to boost sales, with the most recent being 50 leveling similar accusations against Def Jam.
“They could have only one scan and have it count four times,” 50 told UK magazine Uncut, after losing a domestic sales competition to Kanye West in 2007. “West’s entire career hasn’t sold half what I sold on my first album.”
No one has actually proven labels buy their own product to boost sales, and technically the process is not illegal. Additionally, The Wall St. Journal reports the figures may be inaccurate even if some labels aren’t buying their own artist’s material.
“Record labels don’t always request certification, and sales might not be tracked for more than a short period of time after an album is released,” states Carl Bialik of the Journal. “On the other hand, the certified numbers might overstate sales if stores order more albums than they are able to sell.”
Lou Cypher
The Tokin' White Guy
Confused jay with Kanye.
Black_Samson
OG
Remember when I called that cell phone shit cheating?
Too late now.
Yall settled, fucked up and got comfortable.
Too late now.
Yall settled, fucked up and got comfortable.