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Major record labels Sony Music, Universal Music Group and Warner Records sued artificial intelligence companies Suno and Udio on Monday, accusing them of committing mass copyright infringement by using the labels’ recordings to train music-generating AI systems.

The companies copied music without permission to teach their systems to create music that will “directly compete with, cheapen, and ultimately drown out” human artists’ work, according to federal lawsuits filed against Udio in New York and Suno in Massachusetts.

“Our technology is transformative; it is designed to generate completely new outputs, not to memorize and regurgitate pre-existing content,” Suno CEO Mikey Shulman said in a statement.

Representatives for Udio did not immediately respond to requests for comment.


The complaints said Suno and Udio users have been able to recreate elements of songs including The Temptations’ “My Girl,” Mariah Carey’s “All I Want for Christmas Is You” and James Brown’s “I Got You (I Feel Good),” and could generate vocals that are “indistinguishable” from musicians such as Michael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen and ABBA.

The labels asked the courts to award statutory damages of up to $150,000 per song the defendants allegedly copied.

The labels asked the courts to award statutory damages of up to $150,000 per song the defendants allegedly copied. They accused Suno of copying 662 songs and Udio of copying 1,670.

The lawsuits are the first to target music-generating AI following several cases brought by authors, news outlets and others over the alleged misuse of their work to train text-based AI models powering chatbots like OpenAI’s ChatGPT. AI companies have argued that their systems make fair use of copyrighted material.

Cambridge, Mass.-based Suno and New York-based Udio have raised millions in funding this year for their AI systems, which create music in response to user text prompts.

The labels’ complaints said the companies have been “deliberately evasive” about the material they used to train their technology, and that revealing it would “admit willful copyright infringement on an almost unimaginable scale.”



 
“Our technology is transformative; it is designed to generate completely new outputs, not to memorize and regurgitate pre-existing content,” Suno CEO Mikey Shulman said in a statement.

If the goal is to replicate the voice to use in a way the user wants then doesn't that contradict this statement?
 
It's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out. Cuz it's user generated content, but it looks like the platform is pulling from pre existing music.
 
In the end, there’s still going to be a place for artist to exist, albeit with less money and fame.

Just like, streaming still exist but there’s people that enjoy a great collection of vinyl. Like digital art exist but there is still art exposes for people that paint.

Theres triple A realistic games but still pixel art games. One of the top games is Minecraft and it looks like Nintendo 64.
 
Shit man, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tumblr, all these corporation social media platforms still exist. And we’re here.
 
In the end, there’s still going to be a place for artist to exist, albeit with less money and fame.

Just like, streaming still exist but there’s people that enjoy a great collection of vinyl. Like digital art exist but there is still art exposes for people that paint.

Theres triple A realistic games but still pixel art games. One of the top games is Minecraft and it looks like Nintendo 64.
Also people that want to own the cd instead of buying a subscription to listen
 
interesting...

I would think that the actual artists would have more of a case than the labels. Fuck the labels...If you generate a song using MY voice.. you gotta fuckin pay ME
 
interesting...

I would think that the actual artists would have more of a case than the labels. Fuck the labels...If you generate a song using MY voice.. you gotta fuckin pay ME
Wouldn't it depend on who actually owns the music? Or maybe they'd sue on behalf of their artists?
 
Wouldn't it depend on who actually owns the music? Or maybe they'd sue on behalf of their artists?

I thought the way those AI joints works, well Suno in particular is that the user that puts it together/generates it owns it and can do with it what they please(under the paid subscription) which includes selling it. Probably couldnt put it on a streaming platform but you can sell it.

So the labels wouldnt own anything. Which I guess thats why they are trying to use the angle, hey you used our shit to train your AI and it wasnt meant to be used that way.

Not sure how strong of a case they have on this
 
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